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Re: Consciousness/identity
« Reply #20 on: 30/12/2020 14:34:26 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/12/2020 12:41:17
Quote from: puppypower on 28/12/2020 12:08:25
One home experiment is to have someone scare you, when you are not ready. If this works as planned, the inner self will react to the threat before the ego.
That shows that reflexes are faster than conscious thought.
So what?
It is not evidence that
Quote from: puppypower on 27/12/2020 15:22:45
We have two centers of consciousness, the inner self and ego.


The purpose of the experiment was to show that ego consciousness is not first in line. There is an unconscious support system ahead and behind the ego.

Another interesting experiment is to walk willfully, by concentrating on each muscle being used, as you walk. Willful walking is in contrast to walking, unconsciously, with inner self support. The goal is to separate the two layers; ego command line and inner self processing, by having the ego also do the processing steps. This willful walk will become awkward and robotic and still require a lot of concentration to visualize each muscle working. The inner self supported walk, on the other hand, is very organized, smooth, and can adjust itself in real time even to tiny changes, all while the ego in lost in thought and unaware of its surroundings.

One of the problems with exploring the inner self is there is a wall of fear, designed to keep the ego from going too deep and then unintentionally make changes that can add bugs. A neurosis is an example of this. In many ways, it is better not to think too deep about this. However, since this is a natural phenomena at the frontiers of knowledge, science needs to explore and try to figure out  how it comes together to create consciousness.
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Re: Consciousness/identity
« Reply #21 on: 30/12/2020 16:32:56 »
Quote from: puppypower on 30/12/2020 14:34:26
The purpose of the experiment was to show that ego consciousness is not first in line.
Did anyone think it was?

Quote from: puppypower on 30/12/2020 14:34:26
Willful walking is in contrast to walking, unconsciously, with inner self support
Congratulations! you have found the difference between the two biggest regions of the brain: Cerebrum And Cerebellum.

Why are you trying to identify either of them with the mystical ego?
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