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Re: Hijack: Conserved zero point energy idea
« Reply #20 on: 08/12/2022 21:19:04 »
Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 21:17:19
I can't see how science can explain space-time curvature as being an actual thing without providing the operator and physical substance . 

It's an actual thing because it's been detected.
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Re: Hijack: Conserved zero point energy idea
« Reply #21 on: 08/12/2022 21:25:20 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 08/12/2022 21:19:04
Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 21:17:19
I can't see how science can explain space-time curvature as being an actual thing without providing the operator and physical substance .

It's an actual thing because it's been detected.
Are you referring to Ligo ? If so then yes , Ligo detected a space-time ''fabric'' wave . Note that I do not associate Ligo with a gravitational wave detection  because gravity is the operator A(x) , a linear function in every direction . However , Ligo may have detected the earths EM field fluctuating , I hold my judgement .
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Re: Hijack: Conserved zero point energy idea
« Reply #22 on: 08/12/2022 21:28:41 »
Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 21:25:20
Are you referring to Ligo ?

Among other things, like time dilation, orbital precession and length contraction.

Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 21:25:20
Note that I do not associate Ligo with a gravitational wave detection

Not surprising, given your science-denialism nature. Do you even know how LIGO works and why, exactly, those gravitational wave detection events were considered a success? General relativity made specific predictions of what a gravitational wave signature would look like. LIGO was set up to look for those specific signatures. Then it found them.

Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 21:25:20
However , Ligo may have detected the earths EM field fluctuating

No, it didn't, because that's not how LIGO works.
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Re: Hijack: Conserved zero point energy idea
« Reply #23 on: 08/12/2022 21:52:17 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 08/12/2022 21:28:41
Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 21:25:20
Are you referring to Ligo ?

Among other things, like time dilation, orbital precession and length contraction.

Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 21:25:20
Note that I do not associate Ligo with a gravitational wave detection

Not surprising, given your science-denialism nature. Do you even know how LIGO works and why, exactly, those gravitational wave detection events were considered a success? General relativity made specific predictions of what a gravitational wave signature would look like. LIGO was set up to look for those specific signatures. Then it found them.

Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 21:25:20
However , Ligo may have detected the earths EM field fluctuating

No, it didn't, because that's not how LIGO works.
Ligo uses a laser doesn't it and a laser disruption was detected ?

If that is the case then other things could be viewed as the cause of disruption such as the Earths EM field . I doubt that science could of fully shielded the apparatus from bounded EM fields because the apparatus itself even has a bounded EM field .

Anyway , if you can't draw it , you don't understand it , here is my interpretation of space-time curvature .


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Re: Hijack: Conserved zero point energy idea
« Reply #24 on: 08/12/2022 22:57:33 »
Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 21:52:17
Ligo uses a laser doesn't it and a laser disruption was detected ?

It's more complicated than that.

Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 21:52:17
If that is the case then other things could be viewed as the cause of disruption such as the Earths EM field .

No. LIGO had two lasers placed at ninety degree angles to each other. There was a reason for that, one specific to hunting for gravitational waves. You might want to look it up.

Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 21:52:17
I doubt that science could of fully shielded the apparatus from bounded EM fields

It didn't have to be. Again, look up what it had two lasers positioned the way it did.
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Re: Hijack: Conserved zero point energy idea
« Reply #25 on: 09/12/2022 09:17:55 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 08/12/2022 22:57:33
Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 21:52:17
Ligo uses a laser doesn't it and a laser disruption was detected ?

It's more complicated than that.

Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 21:52:17
If that is the case then other things could be viewed as the cause of disruption such as the Earths EM field .

No. LIGO had two lasers placed at ninety degree angles to each other. There was a reason for that, one specific to hunting for gravitational waves. You might want to look it up.

Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 21:52:17
I doubt that science could of fully shielded the apparatus from bounded EM fields

It didn't have to be. Again, look up what it had two lasers positioned the way it did.

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Figure 1. The light path through a Michelson interferometer. The two light rays with a common source combine at the half-silvered mirror to reach the detector. They may either interfere constructively (strengthening in intensity) if their light waves arrive in phase, or interfere destructively (weakening in intensity) if they arrive out of phase, depending on the exact distances between the three mirrors


I would not trust this experiment personally .  I have looked it up again and it looks no better than the last time I viewed it . You have to consider the Eigenstate of the mirrors and whether this state is passive and/or reducting .
« Last Edit: 09/12/2022 11:30:00 by DarkKnight »
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