[dkv (OP)]

Love in my understanding is an approach towards sustainable pleasure(which also means greater pleasure)
There can be rape or robotic union as well but Love survives due to nature of Life.
And life in my opinion moves towards sustainable pleasure.
Independent of what I said .
What is your opinion?

[another_someone]

In simplest terms, I would regard love as an addiction one person has for another (this is why I believe humans are programmed to be susceptible to addiction).

[dkv (OP)]

You mean to say in a profession a person is addicted to boss becuase of love?
Or addicted to Broker becuase of love for him?
Or addicted to forum members out of love for members?
No.
You are not addicted to individuals unless they provide you pleasure for reasons assoicated with
greater pleasure in bed at home or bar or disc or your community.
What is love?

[another_someone]

You mean to say in a profession a person is addicted to boss becuase of love?
Or addicted to Broker becuase of love for him?
Or addicted to forum members out of love for members?
No.

I am not sure what you are trying to say.

In what circumstances is a person addicted to their boss (unless they are in love with them, or have a platonic love for them, as a person)?  They may be addicted to their work, but that is different to being addicted to their boss?

You are not addicted to individuals unless they provide you pleasure for reasons assoicated with
greater pleasure in bed at home or bar or disc or your community.
What is love?

Firstly, not all love is sexual - there is also familial or platonic love.

Secondly, many (possibly all) addictions have some sort of reward (some aspect of pleasure), at least in the early phase.  The most easily obvious example of pleasure inducing addiction are narcotics, that will induce euphoria.

It does not follow that everybody who experiences pleasure will either fall in love, or will become addicted to the source of pleasure in another way.

[dkv (OP)]

Exactly all addictions are not due to love.
Experience of pleasure is not love.
The strategy to sustainable pleasure is love.
It is strategy which increases the joy of foreplay and therfore brings greater stability in relationship.Bringing constancy in Sexual pleasure.

[Quantum_Vaccuum]

i think that drug addictions have nothing to do with love, but with chemical reactions in the brain, or body that are triggered by the drug.

[dkv (OP)]

Yes. Drug addictions are sources of unsustainable pleasure. Some cultures allow natural stimulants.
Some cultures smoke ritually.
But overall this behaviour can not be sustained in a community.

[another_someone]

i think that drug addictions have nothing to do with love, but with chemical reactions in the brain, or body that are triggered by the drug.

You think that love is in no way a chemical reaction in the brain?

[Quantum_Vaccuum]

it may be, but love in my opionion is a volentary chemical reaction, drugs aren't

[another_someone]

it may be, but love in my opionion is a volentary chemical reaction, drugs aren't

Seems a strange view, in my opinion, to consider falling in love to be a more voluntary act than deliberately injecting oneself with heroin.

In any case, my point is not whether a particular act is voluntary or not, only that I believe they probably use similar mechanisms.

[another_someone]

Yes. Drug addictions are sources of unsustainable pleasure. Some cultures allow natural stimulants.
Some cultures smoke ritually.
But overall this behaviour can not be sustained in a community.

Too much of anything is bad, but that is not to say it is not the same thing, only that one should not overdose on it.

[Quantum_Vaccuum]

Yes. Drug addictions are sources of unsustainable pleasure. Some cultures allow natural stimulants.
Some cultures smoke ritually.
But overall this behaviour can not be sustained in a community.

Too much of anything is bad, but that is not to say it is not the same thing, only that one should not overdose on it.

definantly too much of anything is bad, but for drugs, even a bit of it can be bad, the addictive ones like tobbaco and heroine, but i think that love is possible to avoid if you try, drugs that you inject yourself with, are very much harder to stop.

[dkv (OP)]

you dont know the facts and you are discussing with me.
1. the ritual allows too much of smoking.
2. the rituals are such that they can be adopted in real life style.
3. the chemical or synthetic or distilled drugs are too harmful.
The 1 and 2 runs from adulthood to the pinnacle of wisdom.And the followers are said to be living since ages.They are as healthy as we are. So we can not criticize them due to absence of counter evidence.
In the 3rd case the evidence is overwhelming against the use.
Be rational.

[another_someone]

definantly too much of anything is bad, but for drugs, even a bit of it can be bad, the addictive ones like tobbaco and heroine, but i think that love is possible to avoid if you try, drugs that you inject yourself with, are very much harder to stop.

Morphine and diamorphine (the clinical name for heroin) are used extensively as a pain reliever.  In some cases, as when used to relieve the pain of some cancers, addiction is not high on the list of priorities, as the patient is likely to die anyway.  In other cases, when used to relieve the pain of trauma (e.g. road accident, of battlefield injury), its use is strictly short term (I have also heard some comments that the effects of the pain may mitigate the addictive quality of the drug).

Another morphine derivative, codeine, is milder and far more widely used.

But addiction does not need drugs.  One can become addicted to exercise through the action of "runners high" (although the mechanism, which used to be mediated through endorphins (similar in effect to opiates such as heroin), is now more uncertain and may possibly be due to anandamide (which has an effect closer to cannabis)).  And ofcourse one can become addicted to alcohol, or to gambling.

[paul.fr]

just wondering if this is the right section of the forum, for this topic?

[another_someone]

just wondering if this is the right section of the forum, for this topic?

Agreed - could be physiology, or even chat (although that has its problems), or general science.

[paul.fr]

just wondering if this is the right section of the forum, for this topic?

Agreed - could be physiology, or even chat (although that has its problems), or general science.

i would say chat, but i know myself i would not like that. So physiology looks good...

[iko]

Sorry,

I was getting more and more convinced that love is a viral disease...

ikoD  []

[dkv (OP)]

Love helps to stablize the relationships which in turn leads greater sustainability of pleasure.

[another_someone]

Love helps to stablize the relationships which in turn leads greater sustainability of pleasure.

I do not dispute that love stabilises relationship, but that does not contradict the hypothesis that that stability derives from an addiction between the persons involved, and that people with a less addictive personality have greater difficulty sustaining love.