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Wow... Very good question..But obtaining what money? Don't the money go to like charities, or in making the church better?And its optional for the people to give money, it's not like a membership money to go to church..But a very good question!
You would need to prove that the officials of the church knew it was deception. We can't jail them for being deluded.
Religion always causes trouble as far as I'm concerned, with the exception of Budism.
So basically if i set my self up as a religion i can claim whatever i want and cant be done for fraud The church of Michael dosent cause any trouble so if you wish to send me your money all donations will be welcome
Because the money they get is donated. It's a technical detail. When you perform a play, you have to pay rights on it.. if you ask your audience for donations only, you do not *have* to pay rights..
Quote from: JnA on 31/03/2008 14:09:08Because the money they get is donated. It's a technical detail. When you perform a play, you have to pay rights on it.. if you ask your audience for donations only, you do not *have* to pay rights.. yup yup yup.. So you can't sue them for deception?
While the often-cited rumor that Hubbard made a bar bet with Robert A. Heinlein that he could start a cult is likely an embellishment, many witnesses have reported Hubbard making statements in their presence that starting a religion would be a good way to make money.Editor Sam Merwin, for example, recalled a meeting: "I always knew he was exceedingly anxious to hit big money—he used to say he thought the best way to do it would be to start a cult." (December 1946)[59] Writer and publisher Lloyd Arthur Eshbach reported Hubbard saying "I'd like to start a religion. That's where the money is." Writer Theodore Sturgeon reported that Hubbard made a similar statement at the Los Angeles Science Fantasy Society. Likewise, writer Sam Moskowitz reported in an affidavit that during a Eastern Science Fiction Association meeting on November 11, 1948, Hubbard had said "You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion."[60] Milton A. Rothman also reported to his son Tony Rothman that he heard Hubbard make exactly that claim at a science fiction convention.[citation needed] In 1998, an A&E documentary titled "Inside Scientology" shows Lyle Stuart reporting that Hubbard stated repeatedly that to make money, "you start a religion."According to The Visual Encyclopedia of Science Fiction, ed. Brian Ash, Harmony Books, 1977: " . . .[Hubbard] began making statements to the effect that any writer who really wished to make money should stop writing and develop [a] religion, or devise a new psychiatric method. Harlan Ellison's version (Time Out, UK, No 332) is that Hubbard is reputed to have told [John W.] Campbell, "I'm going to invent a religion that's going to make me a fortune. I'm tired of writing for a penny a word." Sam Moskowitz, a chronicler of science fiction, has reported that he himself heard Hubbard make a similar statement, but there is no first-hand evidence."