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The Lungs of Birds: Another Evolutionary Nightmare

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« Reply #40 on: 13/10/2008 08:51:19 »
Are you even reading our posts? Do you read anything of substance at all?
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« Reply #41 on: 13/10/2008 09:22:42 »
Creationists have a way of shooting themselves in the foot when they produce pictures and model tableaux of happy human kids playing with Dinosaurs. Is there any evidence at all of fossils of humans being found right next to fossils of dinosaurs?
There is very strong evidence about the timescales involved. This is conveniently ignored. But if you don't want to understand then you won't.

In any case, is there any evidence at all (of the Scientific kind) to support Creationism?
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« Reply #42 on: 14/10/2008 00:20:38 »
Quote from: sophiecentaur on 13/10/2008 09:22:42
Creationists have a way of shooting themselves in the foot when they produce pictures and model tableaux of happy human kids playing with Dinosaurs. Is there any evidence at all of fossils of humans being found right next to fossils of dinosaurs?
There is very strong evidence about the timescales involved. This is conveniently ignored. But if you don't want to understand then you won't.

In any case, is there any evidence at all (of the Scientific kind) to support Creationism?

I'm not really sure what you're looking for Sophie.

We only have 2 alternatives:

1 Evolution did it

2 God did it.

As I've shown, evolution didn't do it. So what's left?
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« Reply #43 on: 14/10/2008 00:22:07 »
Quote from: _Stefan_ on 13/10/2008 08:51:19
Are you even reading our posts? Do you read anything of substance at all?

Do you want to take up the challenge? If so, let's get on with it. If not, then perhaps you'd like to stay out of this?
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« Reply #44 on: 14/10/2008 07:19:09 »
If you had read my posts, you would know that your second last post is wrong:

"You still have not presented any positive evidence for design. Even if evolution as currently known was completely falsified, it would STILL not lend any credence to creationism! You can try to refute evolution as much as you want, but since creationism is devoid of evidence and reason, it is not an explanation for ANYTHING!"

Please STOP posting about creationism vs evolution until you make a POSITIVE case for a creator and creation. A mechanistic explanation for creation would also be nice.

Evolution has earned its position over 150 years and by a massive amount of evidence, as the correct explanation for life on Earth. Creationism has not. Your rantings are worthless unless you provide evidence for your alternative explanation.
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« Reply #45 on: 14/10/2008 08:51:02 »
Okay, I'm going to put my moderators hat on now.

This thread is at an impasse, and has nowhere to go but down.

Asyncritus, you have been asked for evidence that you will not, and can not, present.  You have acknowledged before that 'god did it' is not a valid scientific explanation for life on Earth, and consistently refuse to put up a scientific alternative to evolution.  Furthermore, it seems that you ignore others posts in response to your own, often refuting the ideas you present.

Everyone else (myself included) - we should be respectful of people's religious beliefs, even if they are not being respectful of science - I am more guilty of insulting Asyncritus' faith than most, but this the level I fear we will descend to if this thread continues.

As such, this thread will only descend into arguments and name calling, so henceforth, consider it locked.
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