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I think you would need a material with a negative coefficient of dispersion, though.
Quote from: sophiecentaur on 23/12/2008 23:52:08I think you would need a material with a negative coefficient of dispersion, though.Yes, that was part of "the right material". Note however that you have to choose the material if you have already fixed the frequencies, but you don't need to do it if you don't fix them: any material have a negative slope part of the dispersion curve, exactly from the other side of the positive one, with respect to the absorbtion frequency:http://phys.strath.ac.uk/12-370/sld081.htmSo, you can take glass, identify a frequency of absorption (with coloured glass this frequency is in the visible) and then choose the two frequencies on the part of the curve where the dispersion coefficient is negative.Simpler than what we could think, isnt'it?
Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/12/2008 13:25:32Quote from: lightarrow on 11/12/2008 20:37:32Quote from: labview1958 on 11/12/2008 14:11:21As the moon is moving towards/away from earth, a light from earth would show a nanosecond blue/red shift. This is due to Doppler effect. Agree?If you are on the Moon observing a light beam from Earth, you will see it blue shifted if the Moon approaches Earth and red shifted if the Moon recedes from Earth.But the effect is tiny.Ah, but it depends on what he intended with "if the Moon approaches Earth"; if he intended "during the actual phase of Moon's approachement to Earth" or if he could mean "in a Moon launched at relativistic speed towards the Earth" (because I haven't understood it) [].Anyway, the effect is perfectly detectable with modern interferometry (even with no relativistic Moon []).
Quote from: lightarrow on 11/12/2008 20:37:32Quote from: labview1958 on 11/12/2008 14:11:21As the moon is moving towards/away from earth, a light from earth would show a nanosecond blue/red shift. This is due to Doppler effect. Agree?If you are on the Moon observing a light beam from Earth, you will see it blue shifted if the Moon approaches Earth and red shifted if the Moon recedes from Earth.But the effect is tiny.
Quote from: labview1958 on 11/12/2008 14:11:21As the moon is moving towards/away from earth, a light from earth would show a nanosecond blue/red shift. This is due to Doppler effect. Agree?If you are on the Moon observing a light beam from Earth, you will see it blue shifted if the Moon approaches Earth and red shifted if the Moon recedes from Earth.
As the moon is moving towards/away from earth, a light from earth would show a nanosecond blue/red shift. This is due to Doppler effect. Agree?
I have an idea that the graph in the link refers to the classical group delay characteristic of a minimum phase bandpass filter (digging back in my memory). Does it still apply to a piece of coloured glass?I think that 'coloured glass' - if you just mean pigmented glass - wouldn't do the same job. The bulk of the medium would still be the basic glass so would the total phase shift be due to a combination of the two materials? It's not just a simple resonator.
...The existence of a large discontinuity in the dispersion curve as it crosses an absorption band gives rise to anomalous dispersion. The dispersion is anomalous because in his neighborhood the longer wavelenghts have a higher value of n and are more refracted than the shorter ones. The phenomenon was discovered with certain substances, such as the red fuchsin and iodine vapor, whose absorption bands fall in the visible region. A prism formed of such a substance will deviate the red rays more than the violet, giving a spectrum which is very different from that formed by a substance having normal dispersion. When it was later discovered that transparent substances like glass and quartz possess regions of selective absorption in the infrared and ultraviolet, and therefore show anomalous dispersion in these regions, the term "anomalous" was seen to be inappropriate. No substance exist which does not have selective absorption at same wavelenghts, and hence the phenomen, far from being anomalous, is perfectly general. The so-called normal dispersion is found only when we observe those wavelenghts which lie between two absorption bands, and fairly far removed from them.