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If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #40 on: 05/02/2009 19:02:05 »
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(Just as a 'by side'!
We seems to have a 'karma' residing at our 'controls'?)
seems [:)] those pesky s's keep getting in the way of your perfect english [:)]

It would be: we seem to; but it would also be; it seems that; I can see how that can be confusing. But don't worry about it. It make no differences. [:)]

Yes; I noticed we are now getting karma. I looked around and the karma number seems to be related to the posts per day. And the avatar seems to be related to the total number of posts.

Edit: Okay; karma is a peer rating; the little buttons under karma are for voting. I thought it was an avatar at first.
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If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #41 on: 05/02/2009 23:35:53 »
And now they're gone again?
Karma?

Illusions all of it:)
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If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #42 on: 05/02/2009 23:42:51 »
When did this karma business pop out of the blue?
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If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #43 on: 05/02/2009 23:48:18 »
Quote from: Chemistry4me on 05/02/2009 23:42:51
When did this karma business pop out of the blue?
First I saw of it was today; you're doing well; seems folks like your posts [:)]
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If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #44 on: 05/02/2009 23:51:20 »
It seems that you can only exercise your karma prowess once every hour (on one person that is)!
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If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #45 on: 05/02/2009 23:52:47 »
Hmmm...it appears that my hour has worn off because I have just executed my karma prowess. But now I'll have to wait another hour (before I can rate your posts Vern)!
« Last Edit: 05/02/2009 23:54:44 by Chemistry4me »
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If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #46 on: 05/02/2009 23:57:12 »
Quote from: Chemistry4me on 05/02/2009 23:52:47
Hmmm...it appears that my hour has worn off because I have just executed my karma prowess. But now I'll have to wait another hour (before I can rate your posts Vern)!
I too exercised mine twice within the last five minutes; I think it has to do with the post. Only one hit per post; but it is good; I find some very rewarding posts occasionally and it is good to be able to reward them.
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If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #47 on: 06/02/2009 00:00:26 »
I don't know why they decided to put this karma business in, copying from other forums perhaps? But at least they could have picked a better word than karma I think!
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If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #48 on: 06/02/2009 00:04:16 »
Karma is probably built into the board software and they simply activated it. I used to host a few message boards using software I downloaded from the internet and all of them contained a karma button that could be activated by the administrator.
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If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #49 on: 06/02/2009 00:07:50 »
Okay.
Anyway, I'd better let you get back on track (after this minor sidetrack). [:)]

Hmmm...I see the thread title is: If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
I don't know, would it?
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If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #50 on: 06/02/2009 00:09:47 »
I couldn't be bothered reading through all of the technical data, sorry [:I]
Would it move? Yes or no? Or is it yet to be proven?
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If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #51 on: 06/02/2009 02:18:40 »
There would be nothing to prevent it moving; but absent something to show it relevant to something else, there would be no way to measure the movement. I don't know what the point might be.
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Re: If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #52 on: 30/09/2022 18:35:34 »
I think that if there was only one object in an infinitely large universe of nothingness, it would cause something akin to the big bang. This is assuming that the infinitely large universe of nothingness is a void. If it is not a void, I think there would have to be gravity and/or an atmosphere.
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Re: If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #53 on: 01/10/2022 01:44:43 »
Quote from: SenseWise on 30/09/2022 18:35:34
I think that if there was only one object in an infinitely large universe of nothingness, it would cause something akin to the big bang.

Why do you think that?
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Re: If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #54 on: 01/10/2022 08:40:05 »
Apropos the question: it is meaningless!

Movement means displacement in space. Displacement from what, if there is no other object?
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Re: If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #55 on: 01/10/2022 17:21:05 »
"If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?"
It would depend on what the scriptwriter said.
Can we put this thread back in its coffin now?
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Re: If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #56 on: 05/10/2022 18:38:32 »
If Space is considered a Medium in itself, then Yes it would Move.

All Objects move thru Time.

So probably there aren't any Stationary Objects in the Space-Time Continuum.

I get that to measure Speed or Velocity, other factors other objects are Necessary.

But a Constant increase in the Rate of Acceleration in any direction should kinda produce a Artificial Gravitational Effect, Right?

P.S. - Perhaps Threads older than 5 years should be Locked Up.
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Re: If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #57 on: 16/09/2024 17:08:48 »
My Theory of Everything.

Why Infinity Isn?t Big Enough

Alan Stuart Mitchell

2024 09 16
An (AI)5 Publication

A word about my new sub-title:  It?s more meaningful than the title itself.  Infinity not being big enough is highly unlikely, and gets more attention more quickly than the 4 word Title.  Perhaps it?s presumptuous, but time will tell.  Meanwhile the real news is that the next three pages leave all readers the task of deciding for themselves how true or otherwise the 4 word Title is.  I may have solved the Unification of Gravity with Quantum Physics.  It has required no new information, but only a proper evaluation of what has been available for decades.  I attempt to explain all of this on one or two pages, in plain English, so that anyone who can read English can understand what I am writing.  This includes the Naked Science Forum?s Simpleton Reviewers.  AlanM, Fish Hoek.  2024 9 16.  18h15.SAST.


 
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CONCLUSIONS
1.   Missing anti-matter found in Cosmic Blister Packs.

The simple fact here is that, as matter and antimatter emerge into space-time, they part ways promptly to avoid annihilating each other.  They separate not only in space, but also in time.  Matter goes forward in time, and antimatter backwards.  So all one has to do to find all the missing antimatter is to look back in time.  The reference to blister packs is simple.  The quantum of matter that erupts with its paired antimatter is blister-packed by its antimatter, entangling the two quantities of energy forming a universe in which life can evolve.  Eventually, at the half-life of every universe, the elasticity (ie gravity) of the space-time between them begins to win and gravity itself will pull the two universe components towards each other.  After the second and final half-life, as soon as matter and antimatter collide, the Grand Annihilation explosion is colossal, because the universe has been growing, along with its blister pack container, for almost an eternity.

2.Missing dark energy found in common daylight.

This is because every universe that lives and dies normally is completely destroyed.  All the energy it ever contained goes back into the Cosmos as photons.  As defined by me, the Cosmos is the space-time component comprising all solid waste energy (mass, dark energy, and any other non-photon energy) that is processed by ?black holes?.
So of course all the dark energy is now bright light, and stares everybody who bothers to look for it straight in their faces.  They are looking for dark energy and matter, not photons, so that is why I say the ?missing? dark energy isn?t missing at all, it?s just bad accounting.

3.Copious Cosmic Sources of water found in Space-Time.

This is because ?black holes? are processing solid waste continuously, and turning all energy forms like mass, into photons, which the black
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holes either shoot back into the Cosmos from their north and south poles in massive jets of photons, or ?perspire? through their ?skins? (ie ?Hawking Radiation?).  Since Science began, people on earth have wondered where all the water on our ?Blue Planet? came from.  Now
We know that it can only be ?black holes?.  There is plenty of hydrogen that gets swallowed by black holes, so all they need to create copious quantities of water is oxygen, which they must somehow synthesise from the solid waste they consume.  You may be wondering how the water escapes from the black hole where it was generated?  Well, here?s where Hawking got it wrong again.  He was concerned to think that every black hole hides a ?naked? singularity inside itself.  That is not the case.  What he conceived as a singularity is in fact a plughole that emits water vapour into space.  At the space temperature of 2,7 Kelvin, water inside a black hole readily flashes into vapour, and can then be released through a drain into space, until it comes across a needy planet.

4.   Light?s Speed and Dimensional Limits Lifted.

I say this because light has no boundary in space-time, and so bounces back from any object it illuminates.  It obviously illuminates the edge of infinity, making a mirror-image of it.  This image is at 2,7 Kelvin, and called the ?Background Radiation? that gives speckled images on badly tuned TV screens.  Here?s a paradox:  how far away is the source of this ?Background Radiation??  It?s obvious again.  The source is right here among us.  All the photons surrounding us and travelling away from us form the source.  If we could do as Einstein imagined, and keep up with all rays of light as they speed away at light speed, we would of course die before we got anywhere near the edge of Infinity.  All we need to do to see the edge of Infinity is to photograph the Background Radiation, which was done last Century, and pictures of the Cosmos energy distribution (COBE ?maps?) are published widely in popular astronomy books.
 
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5.Time?s Trivialities Truly Terminated.
This is just pointing out the importance of using time in the correct shape for your application.  Time is like a chameleon, it comes in whatever shape or colour the user needs it to.  To time Usain Bolt running a hundred metres, the timekeeper of choice is a stop watch.  A stopwatch is no help at all in successfully landing your rocket on a space station.  You need the full Monty on your space and time navigating kit:  Up/down forward/backward and left/right in space coordinates as well as all six matching degrees of freedom in time.  Hence we come to this conclusion on time trials being unnecessary.

6. In Time Nothing?s Imaginary, All of it is real.

Unfortunately, Hawking got this one wrong.  He kept obsessing with the square root of minus one, so some aspects of time seemed ?imaginary? to him.  Only Electrical Engineers like me are allowed to use i (the symbol for the imaginary square root of minus one).  It?s not a lot of use for us either.  It can all be done geometrically on paper in pencil, and in just two dimensions with vector addition and subtraction. Case closed.

7.   Universes Death Causes Identified.

This is explained under item 1 above.  Gravity does the dirty on all universes.  Another case closed.

8.   Essential Independent Observer Justified.

This is Philosophy 101, having nothing to do with Science at all.  If I?m not there to hear it does the falling tree make any sound at all?
Case closed.

9.   Explanation given of Mirror effect at Infinity.  See Item 1 again.
10.Holy Grail of Physics Finally Explained.
I must say this is the simplest conclusion so far.  Gravity is elevated to its pinnacle by becoming the Lord High Executioner in ?The Mikado,
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or The Town of Titipu?, by Gilbert and Sullivan.  Gravity is just another disguise for the Mikado, as described in item 1 above.

I now close my cases completely.

That?s it Folks.

Thank you for your interest.  Alan Stuart Mitchell

BIBLIOGRAPHY
The Universe.  Its Beginning and End.  Lloyd Motz.
Relativity.  The Special and the General Theory.  Albert Einstein. 1952.
The Universe in a Nutshell.  Stephen Hawking.  2001.
The Greatest Show on Earth.  Richard Dawkins. 
The Selfish Gene.  Ibid.
What is Time.  GJ Whitrow. 
The Illustrated Longitude.  Dava Sobel and William J H Andrewes.
15 Million Degrees ? A Journey to the Centre of the Sun.  Lucie Green.
Einstein?s Refrigerator.  Gino Segre.  2002.
The Spinning Magnet.  Alanna Mitchell. 2018.
Quantum.  A Guide for the Perplexed.  Jim Al-Khalili.  2003.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=71376.0

(This Kindergarten Edition is mainly for their Simpleton Reviewers)
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Re: If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #58 on: 16/09/2024 17:31:32 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 01/10/2022 08:40:05
Apropos the question: it is meaningless!

Movement means displacement in space. Displacement from what, if there is no other object?
Dark matter of course Alan.
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Re: If the universe contained only one object, could that object move?
« Reply #59 on: 16/09/2024 17:44:39 »
I reckon Halc will euthanase  this thread as it is now sounding like a thread that was closed due to bickering.
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