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« Reply #940 on: 22/01/2008 10:34:41 »
Me too.. I have tried twice.. and am whipped.. just can't get the sleep to come... Good luck..
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« Reply #941 on: 23/01/2008 15:56:37 »
7:54 AM. I am running out of things to count!
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« Reply #942 on: 23/01/2008 16:21:15 »
hello from australia newbie here have followed the forum for a while but felt too awkward to write anything but I did really want to say a big thank you to everone on this site and particularly neil who's messages have been around from day dot your honesty and the glimpses of complete frustration laced with admirable optimism have seen me through some of the lowest moments and you've all made me feel not quite so alone. For now I do need to at least type something because I'm feeling a fair dose of guilt today. I spent 6 years straight on sleeping pills, just a little bit addicted! I fell pregnant went cold turkey off them and lost the baby i didn't touch them again for 5 years, now 34 weeks pregnant i've been back on them no pills no sleep i just can't go day after day with nothing so at about the 40 hour sleep free mark i'm taking them just feel so guilty about it and today the obstetrician has suggested bringing on early delivery if i get exhausted, stressed and sleep deprived I can have a seizure that can harm the baby so far I've avoided it but i guess with insomnia getting worse it's a risk, before the delivery I have to go a full week pill free that petrifies me as you all know your own company can send you crazy after a while and late night tv well I don't need to say much about that do i! I also have to say that if one more well meaning person suggests horlicks or peppermint tea to me I think I'll kick them in frustration! Irony of it all is I'm a health care advisor who empathises and gives remedies to people who say they can't sleep till 12/1 o'clock all with a sympathetic smile. Anyway I needed to say to someone I can't cope but I am because that's what you learn to do and I needed to say thank you for your support and I optimistically hope that sleep visits you all sorry this is such a long post.
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« Reply #943 on: 23/01/2008 18:03:31 »
Hi Karty,
I am sorry you are having to do this at a point when you should be able to enjoy your pregnancy and feel good and rested. I am sorry for your previous loss. I hope for you to to continue on and remain strong.. There is as you know, nothing we can say to make your sleep better but as you have found, it is somewhat comforting to be able to discuss the problem and know there are others that feel your total frustration.. and have been there..Welcome to the site and I hope you begin to feel more at home. Please feel free to make your posts as long or as short as you like.. we welcome you in. Good luck and congratulations on this new wee one.
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« Reply #944 on: 23/01/2008 18:25:42 »
Thanks Karen I feel amazingly relieved and happy now the sleep deprivation doesn't seem so bad when you get to talk about what's doing your head in finally. sunrise in an hour it's going to be a good day hope yours is too :)
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« Reply #945 on: 23/01/2008 18:30:17 »
Yes I know what you mean..Yes its the hours during the night that drive me mad... More so these days so I tend to get a bit touchy in those hours especially if I have no one to talk to, or nothing to do!I hope your day goes well. We have a brisk frozen over heavy frost, but blue skies and sunshine! Its good to see morning. Thanks.
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« Reply #946 on: 28/01/2008 14:09:21 »
hello all :) getting ready for the night shift 3rd day without sleep and avoiding the sleep meds somethings got to give sooner or later! How's everyone elses day/nights going? Karen i understand the touchy frustrated hours running out of ways to keep sane during the night sometimes I wander if taking the meds is to sleep or to escape the boredom of not knowing what to do with the spare time, I have an assignment I should be doing but the brain focus just isn't there.  It's nice and sunny and warm here in Aus at the moment, haven't been down the beach yet because of the beached whale effect being 35 weeks pregnant has but it makes for cheery days! As usual hoping the sandman visits each and everyone of you soon :)
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« Reply #947 on: 29/01/2008 12:46:08 »
Hi everyone and welcome to Karty.

Well, I had my first reflexolgy session on Saturday and guess what - I fell asleep, deeply asleep and had to be woken at the end of it, which I wasn't happy about!!.  What a blissfully relaxing experience and to sleep at all, let alone in the middle of the day........!  I am being 'used' as a case study, so have four free sessions, after which, if the positive benefits continue (have been sleeping a few hours a night since then) I shall definitely continue with it, if only for the foot massage!!

Karty, sorry to hear of your experiences - been there myself so can empathise.

To those living in the UK,  I can recommend a herbal product called Sleepezy from Healthy Direct (am I allowed to do that?!) it's worth a try.

Regards to one and all.
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« Reply #948 on: 01/02/2008 06:07:56 »
CRAP!!!!  I'm starting to lose my sense of humor over my lack of sleep!
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« Reply #949 on: 11/02/2008 16:50:40 »
Quote from: kartythefirst on 28/01/2008 14:09:21
hello all :) getting ready for the night shift 3rd day without sleep and avoiding the sleep meds somethings got to give sooner or later! How's everyone elses day/nights going? Karen i understand the touchy frustrated hours running out of ways to keep sane during the night sometimes I wander if taking the meds is to sleep or to escape the boredom of not knowing what to do with the spare time, I have an assignment I should be doing but the brain focus just isn't there.  It's nice and sunny and warm here in Aus at the moment, haven't been down the beach yet because of the beached whale effect being 35 weeks pregnant has but it makes for cheery days! As usual hoping the sandman visits each and everyone of you soon :)

Thanks Karty I hope your days get better soon. It is really not good three days and no sleep. Make sure you are laying down for quality rest off your feet. Lack of sleep can cause some real nastiness while pregnant so at least lie dow and take the load off for that period you both need the rest!

Hugs feel better soon and glad you at least have some beautiful cheery days to help.

It is difficult to think or occupy time.. and I know its hard to lay for hours without sleep.. but remember baby needs that rest too... even if the peepers don't close..*smiles*
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« Reply #950 on: 11/02/2008 16:51:42 »
Quote from: Carolyn on 01/02/2008 06:07:56
CRAP!!!!  I'm starting to lose my sense of humor over my lack of sleep!

Sorry I know how irratating that is.. I hope you were finally able to get some sleep!
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« Reply #951 on: 25/02/2008 16:17:47 »
well no sleep last night... and wide awake this morning.... A million thoughts filling my head...*^*%%%*^*^(&((^*^&%*^&(*((*^*^!!!!!
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« Reply #952 on: 18/03/2008 11:44:25 »
 [???]

Ah Guys
Back again - well the reflexology was bliss and I benefitted from it a little in the sense that I did get a few hours sssssleep for a couple of weeks, but now back to square one and trying to keep off the sleep meds.

How come the less sleep I get the more wired up I feel?  When I was sleeping a bit, I woke feeling exhausted, but now I am back to not sleeping again, I feel fine.  Trying not to panic in the small wee hours, but when partner is snoring lightly beside me and I know I have to drive to work in a few hours, the old ticker starts to quicken a bit.

Neilip, how did the study thing go - any nearer to finding out why YOU don't sleep??

The other thing I was wondering, if it's not too personal - how many of you non-sleepers are overweight?  I am and I have been reading a lot about insomnia causing weight gain.  Interestingly I managed to lose a stone while I was sleeping, but now I am not sleeping again, I've plateaued and I've still got two stones to go.

Happy Easter to all of you - catch up soon.
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« Reply #953 on: 18/03/2008 14:43:13 »
Quote from: Misty on 18/03/2008 11:44:25
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Ah Guys
Back again - well the reflexology was bliss and I benefitted from it a little in the sense that I did get a few hours sssssleep for a couple of weeks, but now back to square one and trying to keep off the sleep meds.

How come the less sleep I get the more wired up I feel?  When I was sleeping a bit, I woke feeling exhausted, but now I am back to not sleeping again, I feel fine.  Trying not to panic in the small wee hours, but when partner is snoring lightly beside me and I know I have to drive to work in a few hours, the old ticker starts to quicken a bit.

Neilip, how did the study thing go - any nearer to finding out why YOU don't sleep??

The other thing I was wondering, if it's not too personal - how many of you non-sleepers are overweight?  I am and I have been reading a lot about insomnia causing weight gain.  Interestingly I managed to lose a stone while I was sleeping, but now I am not sleeping again, I've plateaued and I've still got two stones to go.

Happy Easter to all of you - catch up soon.


Hi Misty

*le sigh*......

This is the problem with things like acupuncture and reflexology.......if they work.........then they only work in the short term whilst undergoing the treatment.

I am so sorry to hear of your return to the world of ' night '

My study ?....funny you should mention it...I actually emailed them a couple of weeks ago as I had heard nothing.............and............I am still waiting....watch this space !!


Overweight ?....you betcha ?.......though, if this is of any interest....I had been a chronic insomniac for a full twenty years before I put the weight on !.......but that twenty years was the passage of growth from a boy to a bloke !!


If that partner of yours is making your sleep worse then ...do what wifey did toi me.....kick 'em out !!

*le sigh*
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« Reply #954 on: 18/03/2008 21:00:10 »
Quote from: Misty on 18/03/2008 11:44:25
[???]

Ah Guys
Back again - well the reflexology was bliss and I benefitted from it a little in the sense that I did get a few hours sssssleep for a couple of weeks, but now back to square one and trying to keep off the sleep meds.

How come the less sleep I get the more wired up I feel?  When I was sleeping a bit, I woke feeling exhausted, but now I am back to not sleeping again, I feel fine.  Trying not to panic in the small wee hours, but when partner is snoring lightly beside me and I know I have to drive to work in a few hours, the old ticker starts to quicken a bit.

Neilip, how did the study thing go - any nearer to finding out why YOU don't sleep??

The other thing I was wondering, if it's not too personal - how many of you non-sleepers are overweight?  I am and I have been reading a lot about insomnia causing weight gain.  Interestingly I managed to lose a stone while I was sleeping, but now I am not sleeping again, I've plateaued and I've still got two stones to go.

Happy Easter to all of you - catch up soon.

Yep overweight here to. I also have read tons on the effects of no sleep and weight gain.... apparently it does not allow the production of enough seratonin or something  which aid in the bodies ability to regulate weight and burn calories or something like that... Hope you get some sleep soon.

Snoring has never bothered me much.. My husband was a huge snorer... and shook the walls with his..and choking and coughing...
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« Reply #955 on: 19/03/2008 16:00:10 »
Ah Neilip...I do drift off to the spare room occasionally, but frankly, if I can't sleep, I can't sleep and partner's snoring or not snoring makes no odds!

Ah, it is a very cruel thing to be afflicted with!

I think I agree about the reflexology etc, but I will go back to it if only for the two hours perfect bliss of having my own space and someone rubbing my feet................... and it is very relaxing!
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« Reply #956 on: 31/03/2008 05:52:43 »
Hardly any sleep last night and ti's looking like the same tonight! [:(!] [:(!]
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« Reply #957 on: 31/03/2008 07:03:15 »
       sorry you cant sleep. me neither.
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« Reply #958 on: 31/03/2008 10:44:06 »
Wow.. I feel really bad.
Because I doze off within about 5 minutes.. And I don't dream.. Which is great, cos dreaming makes my sleeps more tiring LOL

Aren't you really tired though? Surely you should get to sleep quicker.. Or do you not get tired?
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« Reply #959 on: 31/03/2008 20:00:25 »
Its getting to sleep that is hard.. I get fidgety and sometimes my legs bother me.. sometimes my thoughts(lots of times) Worry etc.. Just don't feel well sometimes sometimes to much pain to sleep. Tons of things mostly some bad memories and odds and end things I can't seem to pinpoint!

I love to dream it makes me feel more rested.
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