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« Reply #40 on: 31/01/2009 03:09:18 »
Well, I don't even know what charge is?
It seems to me as the photon, we know it exist and we have descriptions for it.
We use it on a daily basis.

But I'm still not sure what the descriptions are talking about.
We can speak of electrons missing and entropy, like time, having an arrow wanting to 'equalize' the difference between those electrons missing and that other end where we have more of them.

"a charge is any generator of a continuous symmetry of the physical system under study.
When a physical system has a symmetry of some sort, Noether's theorem implies the existence of a conserved current. The thing that "flows" in the current is the "charge", the charge is the generator of the (local) symmetry group. This charge is sometimes called the Noether charge."

I like this description though as it is at my level:)
http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~elec201/Book/basic_elec.html

And if one have a burning interest then this one is good too:)
http://searchcio-midmarket.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid183_gci840676,00.html

And reading those two definitions you will know more than me:)
As my memory is like a sieve.

And I know that you don't need it Vern.
But I'm surprised over how easy it is for me to forget things I thought I knew.
I do it all the time:)

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"Noether's theorem (also known as Noether's first theorem) states that any differentiable symmetry of the action of a physical system has a corresponding conservation law.
The action of a physical system is an integral of a so-called Lagrangian function, which is a function of the generalized coordinates and velocities of a dynamical system from which the equations of motion in Lagranges form can be derived.
From there the system's behavior can be determined by the principle of least action.
This seminal theorem was proven by Emmy Noether in 1915 and published in 1918-

And a Langrarian function is just a mathematical 'generalization' that summarizes the dynamics of the system using "any convenient variables" and "generalized coordinates" This makes it easy to incorporate constraints into a theory by defining coordinates which only describe states of the system which satisfy the constraints.

like you can do the same experiment in that jet-plane, as you can on the ground, not having to care that our earth moves at a constant speed of 30 km a second (I think:). So what it seem to state is that as long you are 'stationary' relative a uniformly moving frame of reference you won't notice any difference in your experiment, that is, if I got it right?
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« Reply #41 on: 31/01/2009 03:38:31 »
What is spin? What spin?
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« Reply #42 on: 31/01/2009 03:45:46 »
A Chevrolet -56 midnight blue with silver stripes.
Out for a spin on the strip.

That would be nice:)

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« Reply #43 on: 31/01/2009 03:46:55 »
Come on, I'm waiting for you to edit something...[:)][:)]

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But seriously? What spin?
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« Reply #44 on: 31/01/2009 03:52:02 »
I tried but i had no 'rights' to your post Sir.
What spin are we spinning now Mr Chem?
*truly suspicious*
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« Reply #45 on: 31/01/2009 03:53:07 »
Are you talking about electron spin?
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« Reply #46 on: 31/01/2009 03:54:38 »
Yep, just wondering what it is:)
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« Reply #47 on: 31/01/2009 03:56:05 »
Have you found the answer?
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« Reply #48 on: 31/01/2009 03:57:53 »
Nope, but I have some practical experiments planned.

Involving a hula hoop and lots and lots of tequila sunrises.
Either one will help, as long as she doesn't hit me:)


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How many do you think I will need Mr Chem?
She recommended http://www.firetoys.co.uk/juggling/hula_hoops.html

And wants me to sing 'I'm on fire' doing it?
What's his name?
Bruce, ah, lee??
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« Reply #49 on: 31/01/2009 04:01:26 »
Quote from: yor_on on 31/01/2009 03:57:53
How many do you think I will need Mr Chem?
Hola hoops or the other one? I've got no idea [???]

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Btw, are you good with waves?

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Who is 'she'?
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« Reply #50 on: 31/01/2009 04:04:35 »
I've seen them?

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Ah, two 'Gods Of Edit' at the same thread:)
This should make for goood reading Mr Chem.

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I don't know?
I just meet her, on this very site btw.
It was her that explainded the physics underlying, ah, so to speak.
(Underlaying?) Awh... English.

With a webcam Mr Chem.
State of the art if I may say so...
She may be a professor:)
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« Reply #51 on: 31/01/2009 04:08:18 »
You can see waves?   [:o] [:o]

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Good reading indeed. Very good.
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« Reply #52 on: 31/01/2009 04:10:25 »
Well, one should avoid them I say.

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The waves.
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« Reply #53 on: 31/01/2009 04:12:14 »
Professor you say? What is her username?
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« Reply #54 on: 31/01/2009 04:14:03 »
Hah!

And in Swedish that will become
Ha(h)

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This is a serious discussion Mr Chem.
As you well know.

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So, do you have one?
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« Reply #55 on: 31/01/2009 04:17:23 »
Quote from: yor_on on 31/01/2009 04:14:03
So, do you have one?
No, I'm afraid not [:(][:(][:(]

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Alright, I think it is time for me to leave this thread, cheerio  [:)]


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I'm not bored anymore.
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« Reply #56 on: 31/01/2009 04:20:07 »
I'm starting to get the hang of this editing.

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Okay, okay, I'm leaving.
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« Reply #57 on: 31/01/2009 04:22:28 »
Yes, you 'broke up' my reply beautifully...
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Here:)
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1956-chevy-bel-air-chevrolet-archives.jpg

And as you can see it has Turbo tires.
An remarkable American invention, never before, or after, seen.

Soo, can't you see them?

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What! retreating in the face of thy 'enemy' are we...
That leave me only one window open Mr Chem..

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And you don't want me to take that way.
(fifth floor)
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« Reply #58 on: 31/01/2009 04:24:45 »
Quote from: yor_on on 31/01/2009 04:22:28
Soo, can't you see them?
See WHAT? [???]
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« Reply #59 on: 31/01/2009 04:26:27 »
Waves my man, the waves.

I thought New Zealand was an isle?

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Maybe more of a continent then, ah, do you want me to describe it?
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