[Make it Lady]

When my brother was dying of cancer aged 34 he was very, very scared of death and pain and the treatments and well everything. At the time Roy Castle, the very underrated celeb, was also dying of cancer. He was brave and dignified and fought the disease until he died. My brother took strength from him and the way he coped with the disease.
I don't care how Jade Goody became famous. If she helps one person like Roy Castle helped my brother then I will support her forever. No one has any right to criticise the people in god's waiting room. No one has the right to criticise the treatment decisions of these people either but at the same time no one should give people false hope with treatment they know won't work and won't prolong life. My brother had chemotherapy even though he knew it would only prolong his life and not save it. He had two children and he wanted to see the next birthday and then Easter.

[paul.fr]

Many nasty remarks have been made here by jealous people who have nothing positive to contribute but hate and are simply driven by envy of her money and fame.

You should be ashamed.

I don't think anyone is envious of her, her money or fame. They just don't see her as the celebrity that you do, she has not touched our lives or become part of it. Yes, it is sad that she has terminal cancer but she is not the only one. Why have you not thought to post a topic asking for a cure before? Why single one person out?

I don't care how Jade Goody became famous. If she helps one person like Roy Castle helped my brother then I will support her forever.

She did it through a publicist, not to help others but to make money. Don't you think she charged each and every news organisation, for each and every interview? She did it for the money, not the greater good.

[Make it Lady]

Paul you can be a real Dick sometimes!

[paul.fr]

Paul you can be a real Dick sometimes!

Curious, you are not the first to say that...!

Look, I am not having a go at anyone or trying to be an arse but if you ask anyone...oh heck, lets leave it there.

[Madidus_Scientia]

You used your annual leave from work to sit at home and watch this woman on big brother???

Seriously, WTF?

You need help

[Make it Lady]

Paul I think you better had. Sometimes it is a good idea to insert your brain before typing.

[paul.fr]

But what would i have to type if i went around doing that?

[Make it Lady]

You might be a little more sensitive.

[John Chapman]

Come on Guys. NobodySavedMe's grief is obviously real and if it's real it's valid.

When I worked for the Samaritans we sometimes had people phoning who were absolutely distraught following an occurrence that most people would find trivial. But if you have enough sh1t in your life it eventually builds up into a mountain. I once talked to someone who tried to kill herself after she dropped her dinner on the floor. But of course that wasn't the real reason. It was just the catalyst. The final straw. She saw the dropped dinner as the ultimate confirmation of her inadequacy. Her confidence had been chipped away by a relentless stream of low level sh1t which altered her perspective on the significance of everyday things. Her grief over the spilt dinner was devastatingly real and almost cost her her life.

No one knows whats happening in someone's head so you can't begin to understand the context of peoples grief. None of us are qualified to sit in judgement of NobodySavedMe. It may be that cancer has a particular significance for him.

Your responses are inappropriate. Your comments should be less about support for Jade Goody and more about your support for one of our fellow bloggers.

[Chemistry4me]

NobodySavedMe wants a cure. Not support.

[Chemistry4me]

Why are there two of the same post?

You're right, I don't understand at all.
So she is just another "no Briton's were on board" to me.

[NobodySavedMe (OP)]

Many nasty remarks have been made here by jealous people who have nothing positive to contribute but hate and are simply driven by envy of her money and fame.

You should be ashamed.

I don't think anyone is envious of her, her money or fame. They just don't see her as the celebrity that you do, she has not touched our lives or become part of it. Yes, it is sad that she has terminal cancer but she is not the only one. Why have you not thought to post a topic asking for a cure before? Why single one person out?

I don't care how Jade Goody became famous. If she helps one person like Roy Castle helped my brother then I will support her forever.

She did it through a publicist, not to help others but to make money. Don't you think she charged each and every news organisation, for each and every interview? She did it for the money, not the greater good.

Some of you people don't understand at all.

Look when a plane crashes the newscaster states 160 people were killed, "no Briton's were on board",or no Americans were on board.This allows us to dismiss the incident as 1) We don't know who these people are,2) We never saw them,3) We don't know them,they are strangers, we don't know their culture, we don't want to know either, in other words they don't exist in our conscienceless for more than a transient second.

Now contrast this with the plane which landed in the Hudson river,in America a few weeks and no one was killed.The news programs spend a full 12 minutes on that"tragedy"out of a 25 minute long news program.

That week at least a full 5 hours was devoted to the survivors on the news.
Interviews were done with the survivors,their relatives,the plane crew were hailed as hero's.they were showing over and over again how the survivors got out and there was massive publicity on the radio,the TV,the papers.Even though nobody died.

The following week the publicity was less but 2 weeks later again massive publicity was given with video footage of the plane landing on the river.Again everyone was interviewed after it was confirmed birds had gone into the engines.

The plane survivors were real people.We know their names,their faces, we know that one was a hockey player, another one was a a student going to see his mother in Seattle, another one was going to a convention.In other words we saw these people as real cogent,alive people.

We saw their faces,We saw them as real people.


It is true thousands of other people have cancer but they are not real as we don't know them.We have never met them,or seen their faces, or are familiar with their pain or hopes, dreams,aspirations.They are not part of our world view.They are complete strangers.

The human mind cannot imagine more than 6 or 7 distinct points at the same time as Koestler proved.

In the same way Jade Goody is alive, real to us,she is part of our lives as she has been on TV for many 1000's of hours,she is on the radio,the TV,the papers,the magazines.She cannot be dismissed.She is more real than real.She is a part of our lives.She is a part of our world shaping reality and as such is more important as evidenced by the massive attention being given to her as a result of our huge interest in her.

[paul.fr]

She cannot be dismissed.She is more real than real.She is a part of our lives.

Until you can realise that this is not true, there is not point continuing this discussion.

[DoctorBeaver]

I am possibly in a unique position to respond in this thread as I too have terminal cancer and only a few months to live. I've never been a fan of Jade Goody and consider her a talentless article who got where she is for no discernible reason. I do, though, sympathise with her plight; but no more so than with anyone else in the same situation. Just because she is a celebrity whose face I know I don't think I owe her more sympathy than anyone else with terminal cancer.

Paul is right to point out that she is milking every last ounce of publicity out of her condition. Why? Because she wants to ensure her children's future? She already has enough money for that. The truth is she is a fanatical self-publicist. Were she not, she would never have entered Big Brother in the 1st place.

I also agree with MakeItLady who said that if Ms Goody is responsible for saving just 1 life then what she is doing is worthwhile. I did an interview on BBC Radio 5 last Saturday evening and afterwards someone phoned the show to say that he was going to make some changes in his life as a result of things I'd said. That pleased me because just changing 1 person's life for the better is worthwhile.

So, love Jade Goody or hate her, she is in a sad situation; but no worse a situation than thousands of others. To try to portray her as some kind of goddess is warped. She is a human being - no more, no less.

[Chemistry4me]

Is there anywhere that I can find that interview?

[Chemistry4me]

Don't they have an audio bank of something? I could not find one []

[DoctorBeaver]

C4M - Go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/nolan/ and look for the Nolan: Jade Goody Monday 16th February 2009 entry. You can download the podcast from there. My bit is right at the end. It's an edited version (about half the length) of the original that was broadcast on BBC Radio Ulster a couple of days after I did the interview.

[Chemistry4me]

Ok, thanks, I'll have a look.

[DoctorBeaver]

How can you look at a podcast?

[Chemistry4me]

Okay, I'm listening to your right now []