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We understand the electromagnetic field. People have problems with the gravitational field. However it is one and the same field. The only difference is that the gravitational field is a bipolar field whereas the electromagnetic field is split into positive and negative components.
Quote from: jerrygg38We understand the electromagnetic field. People have problems with the gravitational field. However it is one and the same field. The only difference is that the gravitational field is a bipolar field whereas the electromagnetic field is split into positive and negative components.That works for the EM-nature concept. I needed a mechanism that didn't require modification of the field. Saturated points within fields of all other points worked. All the fields contribute toward saturation. So saturation must occur at an offset toward increasing field strength.
Okay; let me try again. Visualize a photon, or even a dot wave, moving through fields of electric and magnetic amplitude. The fields get stronger in one direction and weaker in the other. Points of saturation reach saturation amplitude as the photon moves along its path. The fields of electric and magnetic amplitude contribute toward the amplitude of the points. This contribution causes the points to reach saturation at a slight offset toward increasing field strength. This offset causes migration toward increasing field strength.In other words; the field amplitude in the photon's path does not reset to zero as the photon begins to interact with them. They start the photon amplitude where the photon found them. Since the amplitude they finally reach is a constant, the photon reaches this amplitude more quickly. It has a head start.We have to describe a photon a little differently than any previous description, but it still adheres to all the rules.
Think of a photon as it ripples through space and concentrate on the peak amplitude point. As that point swims through the remnient fields of other photons, them remnient fields gotta be part of peak amplitude. If the remnient fields are stronger in one direction the swimming point must be slightly offset toward that stronger direction because of the contribution from the remnient fields.
A photon moving through radiated fields (photon flux) of other photons must then reach its positive and negative amplitude limits taking into account the existing photon flux. Because of this each photon's point of maximum amplitude is offset toward increasing field strength of the photon flux. That is the cause of gravity. It cannot possibly be otherwise.Massive objects, comprised as they are of field-radiating photons, must gravitate toward each other because of the saturation offset of photons. This is one way of looking at gravity in a photonic universe.
Gravity:Photons in a "mass" emit the electric and magnetic fields just as do photons free in space. Photons traveling through the same local area must share the available "action" of that area since the action is a property of space and not a property of individual photons. A photon reaches saturation at an offset toward increasing field strength of the fields present in this local area. This causes photon paths to bend toward massive objects and since massive objects are comprised only of photons, massive objects change direction toward increasing photon field strength. So they approach each other or are attracted.
Here's a few different descriptions of the fundamental force of gravity Photons in a "mass" emit the electric and magnetic fields just as do photons free in space. Photons traveling through the same local area must share the available "action" of that area since the action is a property of space and not a property of individual photons. A photon reaches saturation at an offset toward increasing field strength of the fields present in this local area. This causes photon paths to bend toward massive objects and since massive objects are comprised only of photons, massive objects change direction toward increasing photon field strength. So they approach each other or are attracted.
Quote from: Vern on 14/06/2009 22:05:10Here's a few different descriptions of the fundamental force of gravity Photons in a "mass" emit the electric and magnetic fields just as do photons free in space. Photons traveling through the same local area must share the available "action" of that area since the action is a property of space and not a property of individual photons. A photon reaches saturation at an offset toward increasing field strength of the fields present in this local area. This causes photon paths to bend toward massive objects and since massive objects are comprised only of photons, massive objects change direction toward increasing photon field strength. So they approach each other or are attracted.
As we look far away from the Earth and Sun the photonic gravitational field turns into a planar surface. This pushes against space and expands it. Space pushes back against the expanding photonic wave. This causes vector forces centered at the gravitational center between Earth and Sun. thus gravity is due to the expansion of the entire universe.
Quote from: jerrygg38As we look far away from the Earth and Sun the photonic gravitational field turns into a planar surface. This pushes against space and expands it. Space pushes back against the expanding photonic wave. This causes vector forces centered at the gravitational center between Earth and Sun. thus gravity is due to the expansion of the entire universe.I think there is a problem working out orbital dynamics along the lines of gravity being the result of the expanding universe.
It may very well be that gravity has several components. At out level and measurements the local effect is sufficient to explain gravity.
Quote from: jerrygg38It may very well be that gravity has several components. At out level and measurements the local effect is sufficient to explain gravity.You're still adding to the complexity; I suspect that nature is fundamentally simple. Its most fundamental thing from which all other things are made is electric and magnetic change.
What do you mean by electric and magnetic change. Does this indicate variations of electric and magnetic fields with time? Then you have moving fields. Then you have complex equations of moving fields. As the fields change, they could produce local change and long term change. Therefore we get local effects and cosmological effects. Please explain what you mean by change.
Quote from: jerrygg38What do you mean by electric and magnetic change. Does this indicate variations of electric and magnetic fields with time? Then you have moving fields. Then you have complex equations of moving fields. As the fields change, they could produce local change and long term change. Therefore we get local effects and cosmological effects. Please explain what you mean by change.Yes; I mean a change in the electric and magnetic amplitude of points in space. When the electromagnetic amplitude of any point changes adjacent points respond and visa versa. And yes; this one simple action does lead to all the complexity of the universe.I'm working on a computer model of this action. The action is that the point that is greatest in amplitude continues gaining amplitude until it reaches saturation. The first point to reach saturation begins to lose amplitude. This change affects adjacent points, so they don't continue but immediately follow the first point's action.That is why the dots and their associated waves exist as moving points. The fact that they saturate is the mechanism of gravity.
Sounds like you are describing a hologram universe or a three dimensional motion picture. Where are the protons? How does a proton split in space to form u-mesons and pi-mesons?
Quote from: jerrygg38Sounds like you are describing a hologram universe or a three dimensional motion picture. Where are the protons? How does a proton split in space to form u-mesons and pi-mesons?Protons are composed of three photon shells. When a proton splits apart the three shells unfurl into photons again. During the splitting process observations can show intermediate unstable particles.
I have no problem with electric and magnetic fields existing in empty space. It also doesn't matter what empty space is composed of. It is as we find it. The only determinable properties we know about are permittivity and permeability.
Let's face it, the basic Schroedinger Equation for the H atom couldn't be much simpler. The actual solution is a bit harder, though. It has one great strength, though - it ties in fairly well, numerically with experimental results.