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If you're happy to accept it, then you must be happy to accept wolfekeeper's noodly appendages or any other explanation that anyone cares to put forward - you have to accept all of science fiction, all of fantasy, all deranged delusions (pink fairies and unicorns), as equally valid. Are you happy to do so? If not, why should your story have any more validity than those?
I think you've missed the point - by introducing an element of design you have added further complication - therefore it is not worth doing. Also, it is unfalsifiable and based on unfalsifiable assumptions, so it is again not worth doing.It's illogical to postulate an intelligent designer, and this is one perfectly good reason to disbelieve it.
BenvQuoteIf you're happy to accept it, then you must be happy to accept wolfekeeper's noodly appendages or any other explanation that anyone cares to put forward - you have to accept all of science fiction, all of fantasy, all deranged delusions (pink fairies and unicorns), as equally valid. Are you happy to do so? If not, why should your story have any more validity than those?Noodly appendages do not need an intelligence to happen , they are just the result of random knotting, how on earth you can try to equate this really silly statement with the possibility that there is reason ,cause, and action behind the creation and sustainability of the universe that is just not logical
QuoteI think you've missed the point - by introducing an element of design you have added further complication - therefore it is not worth doing. Also, it is unfalsifiable and based on unfalsifiable assumptions, so it is again not worth doing.It's illogical to postulate an intelligent designer, and this is one perfectly good reason to disbelieve it.Ben it is illogical to you and the very essence of logic to much greater minds than yours and you must accept that as an uncomfortable truth, you you that is , not me and billions of others who believe the unimaginable wonder, beauty, harmony and order can only be explained by acception a mind of infinite intellect is behind existence.
"Give me your one perfectly good reason to disbelieve in an ID?"
You have also not answered how the universe just popped into existence, apparently without a cause.This makes me wonder if there in an "Uncaused Cause" behind the universe/existence, where the buck must have started and where the buck must stop
Somewhere out there are minds infinitely greater than our puny human intellects and I think it is bombastic and arrogant to propose that humanity are the very pinnacle of creation
AlanThe Alpha and the Omega
WHY would this designer not make himself known to us? Can he not see how we fight each other all the time over religous nonsense?Since we are his creations and he cares about us then why does he not step forward and put the record straight? After all we are his design and he should at least feel some responsibility for the pickle that we are in, he created it!
Actually, I have answered this question. I've said I don't know. This doesn't leave a gap to be filled with a designer, it's simply something we don't know. I'm confortable with not knowing - I don't have to fill the unknown with postulates of designers.
You're making the argument from ignorance. "We don't know, therefore goddidit".Don't be ridiculous. It has been established for quite some time that altruism evolves naturally, and that love is a result of brain biochemistry.
Do you really think your love for your spouse, kids, parents etc are just the result of some chemical effect on your brain, come on your loved ones are real not a delusion or illusion brought on by brain chemicals!!!
What you are saying is that, because we couldn't understand ourselves fully, someone else must be responsible for constructing us. You are invoking a 'God of the gap' because you feel a need to explain something you can't. This is understandable but doesn't prove anything except that you are using a strategy to deal with a difficult subject.This God of the gap is not necessary if you can accept the more simple explanation that you don't need to have everything explained
ID is dismissible purely from basic logic. It is also dismissible because it is absolutely unscientific. You're the one making irrational posts, not me
Life is the gift of the intelligent Designer
The body pre-death and post-death is exactly the same