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Does gold react with sulphuric acid?

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Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« on: 11/03/2009 08:49:22 »
Does Sulphuric acid reacts with gold wire.
« Last Edit: 06/04/2009 23:33:18 by chris »
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Re: Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #1 on: 11/03/2009 09:14:22 »
No.
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Re: Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #2 on: 11/03/2009 09:34:55 »
Which acid is preferable for the reaction, i want to see corrosion on the wire.
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Re: Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #3 on: 11/03/2009 09:44:51 »
So far as I'm aware, no acid or alkali reacts with pure gold. I could be wrong though. If it does, then the gold was not pure and the reaction is with the impurities rather than the gold.
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Re: Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #4 on: 11/03/2009 13:19:24 »
Quote from: chandan on 11/03/2009 09:34:55
Which acid is preferable for the reaction, i want to see corrosion on the wire.
Aqua regia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_regia

Another way: cianide (ex. KCN) in presence of air oxygen, or another oxidant, ex. H2O2; in this second way (the reaction is called "bombing" in gold laboratories/firms) you MUST use a totally closed hood with tubes to put hands, because CN- can also be oxidized to (CN)2 which can kill you in a few seconds.

Instead of Aqua_regia you can also use HCl + H2O2 (it makes Cl2) but it's slightly less effective. In both cases you have to heat up a little.
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Re: Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #5 on: 11/03/2009 18:23:28 »
I have read, but never bothered to verify, that telluric acid dissolves gold.
However, if I wanted to dissolve gold I would use HCl/HNO3.
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Re: Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #6 on: 11/03/2009 22:50:23 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 11/03/2009 18:23:28
I have read, but never bothered to verify, that telluric acid dissolves gold.
However, if I wanted to dissolve gold I would use HCl/HNO3.
It should be Selenic acid:
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja01995a007
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selenic_acid
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Re: Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #7 on: 03/04/2009 08:16:11 »
How about nitric acid? does this work.
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Re: Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #8 on: 03/04/2009 13:54:59 »
Quote from: chandan on 03/04/2009 08:16:11
How about nitric acid? does this work.
No, you need a complexant together with the oxidant (es. Cl- ions)
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Re: Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #9 on: 03/04/2009 15:37:16 »
We make rings out of gold ewe know !

ewe can buy one off me and then conduct your tests ?..

..see how I try to help ?
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Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #10 on: 07/04/2009 04:52:52 »
I have enough of gold wire to conduct tests....... if i am in short i will send u a message...
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Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #11 on: 07/04/2009 20:45:16 »
Quote from: lightarrow on 11/03/2009 22:50:23
Quote from: Bored chemist on 11/03/2009 18:23:28
I have read, but never bothered to verify, that telluric acid dissolves gold.
However, if I wanted to dissolve gold I would use HCl/HNO3.
It should be Selenic acid:
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja01995a007
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selenic_acid
OOps, sorry, wrong group VI element.
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Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #12 on: 09/04/2009 09:19:13 »
No,, But can't say ... under drastic condition it can change
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Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #13 on: 09/04/2009 13:30:59 »
Quote from: Raghavendra on 09/04/2009 09:19:13
No,, But can't say ... under drastic condition it can change
what can change?
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Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #14 on: 09/04/2009 14:07:38 »
The fact that gold does react with sulphuric acid under drastic conditions?
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Quote from: Chemistry4me on 09/04/2009 14:07:38
The fact that gold does react with sulphuric acid under drastic conditions?
Ah, I believed he answered BC... [:)]
No, sulphuric acid cannot react with gold, even under drastic conditions; the acid is not complexant.
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Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #16 on: 10/04/2009 08:24:23 »
 Ohh u mean gold doesn't react with sulfuric acid...

 It's not true...

But it reacts on some how.

The reaction of sub-ppm amounts of SO2 and NO2 in dry and humid air on a gold foil was studied using a chemical reactor technique. Initially a humidity-independent transient reaction occurs that produces NO and SO3. This reaction is inhibited by the sulfuric acid formed. After this stage another reaction follows that is strongly humidity-dependent and occurs on the gold surface beneath a film of aqueous sulfuric acid. This reaction produces HNO2, NO, and H2SO4
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Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #17 on: 10/04/2009 16:52:45 »
Quote from: Raghavendra on 10/04/2009 08:24:23
Ohh u mean gold doesn't react with sulfuric acid...

 It's not true...

But it reacts on some how.

The reaction of sub-ppm amounts of SO2 and NO2 in dry and humid air on a gold foil was studied using a chemical reactor technique. Initially a humidity-independent transient reaction occurs that produces NO and SO3. This reaction is inhibited by the sulfuric acid formed. After this stage another reaction follows that is strongly humidity-dependent and occurs on the gold surface beneath a film of aqueous sulfuric acid. This reaction produces HNO2, NO, and H2SO4
What does <<SO2 and NO2 in dry and humid air>> have to do with sulphuric acid?
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Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #18 on: 11/04/2009 04:06:16 »
If anything:

Quote from: Raghavendra on 10/04/2009 08:24:23
This reaction is inhibited by the sulfuric acid formed.
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Does gold react with sulphuric acid?
« Reply #19 on: 12/04/2009 08:34:52 »
ya [8D]
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