Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?

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Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« on: 01/04/2009 17:09:59 »
Dearest All,

We are gathered here today to seek out answers, to boldly quest where no sheepy has quest before !

See my Camera ?

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Nice eh ?..was delivered seven years ago last Tuesday !

It's only 4mp but it still does a grand job !

I noticed though that when I put my ear to it, it makes a gurgling kind of sound...this is ONLY when the lens is open though !...why's that then ?..what is this sound ?..why does it do it ?


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Re: Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« Reply #1 on: 01/04/2009 17:49:39 »
Well, I've never come across an 'YNOS' camera before.

Did you buy this off a shady character in a pub?
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Re: Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« Reply #2 on: 01/04/2009 18:09:05 »
Well, I've never come across an 'YNOS' camera before.

Did you buy this off a shady character in a pub?



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Re: Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« Reply #3 on: 01/04/2009 18:44:01 »
I used to have 1 identical to that but I don't remember it ever gurgling at me.
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Re: Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« Reply #4 on: 01/04/2009 19:14:52 »
I used to have 1 identical to that but I don't remember it ever gurgling at me.

Ewe really have to have your ear right up close to it...I just heard it by accident during a close 'camera-ear ' happenstance !
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« Reply #5 on: 01/04/2009 20:42:32 »
Is this proof that neilp is in a mirror universe?
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Re: Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« Reply #6 on: 01/04/2009 20:45:47 »
Try turning the camera 'click' noise/sound-effect off in the settings.
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Re: Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« Reply #7 on: 01/04/2009 22:12:29 »
I noticed though that when I put my ear to it, it makes a gurgling kind of sound...this is ONLY when the lens is open though !...
why's that then ?..what is this sound ?..why does it do it ?

(Piezoelectric) autofocus motor ?
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Re: Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« Reply #8 on: 01/04/2009 23:03:34 »
Yes - RD. I think you're right - or an anti shake mechanism?.
Mine makes a huge clatter when you press the shutter button but it has a mirror and shutter - just like a real camera!

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« Reply #9 on: 02/04/2009 00:07:10 »
Is this proof that neilp is in a mirror universe?

This must explain all the cracks ! (in the mirrors)
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Re: Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« Reply #10 on: 02/04/2009 00:08:26 »
Try turning the camera 'click' noise/sound-effect off in the settings.

Thanks LeeE ..but it is defintely not a sound effect...good call though !...it's far too feint for that !
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Re: Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« Reply #11 on: 02/04/2009 00:10:04 »
I noticed though that when I put my ear to it, it makes a gurgling kind of sound...this is ONLY when the lens is open though !...
why's that then ?..what is this sound ?..why does it do it ?

(Piezoelectric) autofocus motor ?


Thanks Rd...Believe it or not I did in fact wonder if it had something to do with the focusing...this is why I mentioned that it only happens when the lens is open !............it all ' sounds ' plausible to me !
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Re: Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« Reply #12 on: 02/04/2009 00:14:04 »
Yes - RD. I think you're right - or an anti shake mechanism?.
Mine makes a huge clatter when you press the shutter button but it has a mirror and shutter - just like a real camera!

I have a real camera too...it's a Practica MTL50 and I love it ....haven't used it in years !....

Re my didital ynos.....it's not an antishake thing because I think back in 2001 that was reserved for the really high end digital cameras......I suspect RD is correct with the focus thang ? ............. (notice the Tennessee accent way of saying ' thing' there ?...good eh ?)
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Re: Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« Reply #13 on: 02/04/2009 00:58:37 »
Does the gurgly sound change if you move your hand in front of the lens? And take it away again?

Possible it's the autofocus and/or image-stabilisation mechanics. You could try switchng to manual focus and turn off stabilisation and see fi it goes quiet.

T'other possibility is that the sound is coming from the speaker/sounder - can you check? Put thumb over speaker and see if goes quiet?
The old BBC Computer (maybe before your time? - ask dad) used to make quiet hisses and buzzing noises from its speaker which were coming off the electronics (power supply or whatever). The nature of the hisses and buzzes depended on what the computer was doing - you could often hear whether a program was running normally or had jammed up!
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Re: Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« Reply #14 on: 02/04/2009 01:59:08 »
Does the gurgly sound change if you move your hand in front of the lens? And take it away again?

Possible it's the autofocus and/or image-stabilisation mechanics. You could try switchng to manual focus and turn off stabilisation and see fi it goes quiet.

T'other possibility is that the sound is coming from the speaker/sounder - can you check? Put thumb over speaker and see if goes quiet?
The old BBC Computer (maybe before your time? - ask dad) used to make quiet hisses and buzzing noises from its speaker which were coming off the electronics (power supply or whatever). The nature of the hisses and buzzes depended on what the computer was doing - you could often hear whether a program was running normally or had jammed up!

Thank ewe techmind......it is most certainly the auto focus...and it is most definitely internal.Moving my hand in fornt of the lens does indeed make it change. When it has foucused it stops...and then when there is movement it starts up again.


Thanks to ewe and all who helped unravel this.

Though, I would still like to know why this sound is made and what how is it made?

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Re: Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« Reply #15 on: 02/04/2009 02:13:43 »
Maybe its triggered by light obviously a sensor I would imagine like a security light might work.. either light or motion or both...

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« Reply #16 on: 02/04/2009 02:19:38 »
Maybe its triggered by light obviously a sensor I would imagine like a security light might work.. either light or motion or both...

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« Reply #17 on: 02/04/2009 02:50:52 »
Hee hee.. Yeah right.. nothing you did not know already! LOL

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Re: Why Does My Camera "Squajookle" ?
« Reply #18 on: 02/04/2009 03:22:57 »
Neil - As far as I am aware, ynoS Cybershots have always had anti-shake. I bought mine in early 2003 and that had it.

In any case, are you absolutely sure you bought it in 2001? Judging by the rounded end yours is a P series. The DSC-P9 (which I'm pretty certain yours is) was the first 4Mpx P series & that was introduced in 2002. In fact, I think that was their first ever 4Mpx camera.
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« Reply #19 on: 02/04/2009 14:55:36 »
Neil - As far as I am aware, ynoS Cybershots have always had anti-shake. I bought mine in early 2003 and that had it.

In any case, are you absolutely sure you bought it in 2001? Judging by the rounded end yours is a P series. The DSC-P9 (which I'm pretty certain yours is) was the first 4Mpx P series & that was introduced in 2002. In fact, I think that was their first ever 4Mpx camera.

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« Reply #20 on: 02/04/2009 16:47:42 »
Can I get all smug again now? Can I? Eh? Eh?
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« Reply #21 on: 02/04/2009 17:05:02 »
Can I get all smug again now? Can I? Eh? Eh?


Ewe mean your smugness has an off switch ??
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« Reply #22 on: 02/04/2009 22:17:21 »
Thanks to ewe and all who helped unravel this.

Though, I would still like to know why this sound is made and what how is it made?

As you suggest, it is probably a "piezo motor" which does the lens-focus adjustment.
I don't know what sort of piezo motor they use for this application, but a few months ago we had a visit from the sales reps from PI come to visit at work and show off their wares...

http://www.physikinstrumente.com/en/products/piezo_motor/linear_motor_introduction.php
The animations they showed us were much clearer than the ones I can find on their website...

http://www.physikinstrumente.com/en/products/piezo_motor/piline.php
http://www.physikinstrumente.com/en/products/piezo_motor/nexline.php

Basically my understanding is that the motor in a camera might be more like the PI-Line version, where you have a small slab of piezo material (changes physical size when apply a high voltage) and you operate the motor by vibrating this slab (in the animation they showed us the whole thing quivers a bit like a jelly - but on a very small scale!) at resonance so its little 'tooth' or pawl "inches" the part to be moved along. The tip of the 'tooth' or pawl effectively moves in a circular kind of motion.

In contrast, the piezo-walk devices have pairs of legs which walk the moving part through, keeping it constantly under torque. These are more expensive.
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« Reply #23 on: 03/04/2009 15:29:15 »
Can I get all smug again now? Can I? Eh? Eh?


Ewe mean your smugness has an off switch ??

No. Just an intensity control.
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