Can you Guess What This is ? 1 OLD VERSION

CliffordK · « **Reply #700 on:** 13/09/2011 22:14:55 »

In case you missed it... Geezer???

The third tool hanging on the wall is a 2 man bucksaw. Before the chainsaw, they would have been used for cutting down trees, cutting up logs, firewood, and etc. They are still used in wildernesses where motorized engines are prohibited.

The first tool is called a spider, and is used to check the set of the tooth as is shown in this Government Document

Every 5^th (double) tooth on the saws above is called a raker tooth. They remain flat (no set).

The second tool is used to measure the depth of these raker teeth.

Geezer · « **Reply #701 on:** 14/09/2011 02:11:45 »

Ya got me Bugsy!

Wait a minute - in the first piccy it looks as if all four legs are resting an a flat surface, which cannot be the case.

CliffordK · « **Reply #702 on:** 14/09/2011 03:07:11 »

I was told that this was used to gauge the flatness of stuff (granite tables?), although I'm not sure it wasn't also used for grinding. My goal is to eventually make it into a telescope.

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CliffordK · « **Reply #703 on:** 14/09/2011 03:28:48 »

Here's another tool... and some questions along the the same line.

Obviously an axe.
But, what type of axe? Why?
And, why are there grooves in the handle?

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Geezer · « **Reply #704 on:** 14/09/2011 05:33:08 »

Quote from: CliffordK on 14/09/2011 03:28:48

Here's another tool... and some questions along the the same line.

Obviously an axe.
But, what type of axe? Why?
And, why are there grooves in the handle?

Axe.JPG (126.92 kB . 884x1713 - viewed 5008 times)

It must be an axe that can be used by right or left-handed people. Why else would it have two cutting edges (unless it's for chopping down two trees at the same time?)

Karen W. · « **Reply #705 on:** 14/09/2011 10:59:59 »

Quote from: CliffordK on 14/09/2011 03:28:48

Here's another tool... and some questions along the the same line.

Obviously an axe.
But, what type of axe? Why?
And, why are there grooves in the handle?

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I believe this is a double-bit axe.
It is used to Perform the same function as single-bit axe, only difference is it has two cutting edges one on each end of the head so that the lumbermen or person using the axe can rotate it in their hand and use both edges.. I believe the marks are the falling count.. how many trees its cut down.. but thats just kinda what I remember as a kid hearing. It was a long time ago so I can't be sure that my memory is correct.LOL

The Double-bit axes have straight handles that are symmetrical with the double-edge head.
I know one type or pattern head is called a western and then I think we used to have one that was refereed to as a reversible head. There are likely more but those are the types I have seen around here.
We are in the land of lumberjacks and most of them use the double bit axe wen downing trees and working with the logs.. ect

Karen W. · « **Reply #706 on:** 14/09/2011 11:02:33 »

Quote from: CliffordK on 14/09/2011 03:28:48

Here's another tool... and some questions along the the same line.

Obviously an axe.
But, what type of axe? Why?
And, why are there grooves in the handle?

[ Invalid Attachment ]

I believe this is a double-bit axe.
It is used to Perform the same function as single-bit axe, only difference is it has two cutting edges one on each end of the head so that the lumbermen or person using the axe can rotate it in their hand and use both edges.. I believe the marks are the falling count.. how many trees its cut down.. but thats just kinda what I remember as a kid hearing. It was a long time ago so I can't be sure that my memory is correct.LOL

The Double-bit axes have straight handles that are symmetrical with the double-edge head. I think the straight handle kinda provided balance to the ax o the weight was dispersed evenly to either blade.
I know one type or pattern head is called a western and then I think we used to have one that was refereed to as a reversible head. There are likely more but those are the types I have seen around here.
We are in the land of lumberjacks and most of them use the double bit axe wen downing trees and working with the logs.. ect

Karen W. · « **Reply #707 on:** 14/09/2011 11:04:53 »

P.S. that one looks dull enough to use as an awl..LOL Needs a good sharpening from looks of this picture..

CliffordK · « **Reply #708 on:** 14/09/2011 12:50:37 »

Apparently not all double-bitted axe heads are the same.

This is a photo from E-Bay. But, notice that one axe head is virtually flat on one side (like the one above).

AxeHeads.jpg (19.17 kB . 457x358 - viewed 5840 times)

Why?

Still no comments on the grooves in the axe handle?

Geezer · « **Reply #709 on:** 14/09/2011 16:57:52 »

I tracked down an expert in this subject. Waiting to hear back from him.

Karen W. · « **Reply #710 on:** 15/09/2011 02:18:09 »

Quote from: CliffordK on 14/09/2011 12:50:37

Apparently not all double-bitted axe heads are the same.

This is a photo from E-Bay. But, notice that one axe head is virtually flat on one side (like the one above).

AxeHeads.jpg (19.17 kB . 457x358 - viewed 5840 times)

Why?

Still no comments on the grooves in the axe handle?

Like I said I believe the marks in the handle represent the tree falling count..but Sam not sure how many trees to a mark that one represents.....?

CliffordK · « **Reply #711 on:** 15/09/2011 03:29:24 »

I presume there is one mark per tree...
But, I'm told that there is a different reason for the marks as they aren't created with a pocket knife.

Geezer · « **Reply #712 on:** 15/09/2011 03:40:29 »

Quote from: CliffordK on 15/09/2011 03:29:24

I presume there is one mark per tree...
But, I'm told that there is a different reason for the marks as they aren't created with a pocket knife.

Looks like they are burned in. Is it the age of the shaft in terms of years of use?

Karen W. · « **Reply #713 on:** 15/09/2011 06:25:03 »

They all.oat look burned in...?

Geezer · « **Reply #714 on:** 15/09/2011 08:37:42 »

Quote from: Karen W. on 15/09/2011 06:25:03

They all.oat look burned in...?

Yes. Oats tend to be very burny.

Karen W. · « **Reply #715 on:** 15/09/2011 09:42:48 »

Lol.. I said the same... the marks looked burned in.. sorry for my tiny phone keys and predictive text that has a mind of its own...

CliffordK · « **Reply #716 on:** 15/09/2011 11:24:08 »

Ok,
You're getting a bit closer.

So, what was used to "burn in" the lines?

imatfaal · « **Reply #717 on:** 15/09/2011 13:44:09 »

The hot axe blade when being reforged / re-tempered?

CliffordK · « **Reply #718 on:** 16/09/2011 04:33:13 »

I've sharpened axes... but never retempered them.

Single blade axes suffer from being used as sledges and wedges, but that isn't an issue with double-bitted axes.

I doubt that anybody has whacked into railroad irons or something enough times to warrant multiple major rebuilds of the axe head without also breaking the handle.

imatfaal · « **Reply #719 on:** 16/09/2011 11:52:38 »

Old steel would blunt quickly after much use - my uncle used to get his chisels redone (he was a cabinet maker since before wwii - now sadly gone). He claimed that over time the whacking used to make all the steel the same all over - the body of the chisel would go brittle from being soft and flexible and the tip would become soft from being hard and brittle. whether this was an old wives tale I do not know

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