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quote:Sometimes countrys have to go to war to resotre peace
quote:Originally posted by NLJBBECAUSE WE HAVE A JACK*** LEADER WHO GOES BYE THE NAME OF BUSH!!!!!!! FRIGGIN CONGRESS DIDN'T EVEN DECLARE WAR SO TECHNICALLY WERE NOT EVEN AT WAR!!!!!!!! GEEZ I HATE BUSHPeace-Nina
Originally posted by angelbaby_14if America is always talking about world peace, then why is it always when we go to war and win?hiangelbabyit seems to me, we can't have worldpeace if we still think from a national perspective, whether american or british or iraqi, etc. i mean, imagine if your left hand and right hand were different, or arms and legs, and you wanted to play frisbee or clean your teeth or something. and, of course, they are different; going to war just results in inefficiency and malcoordination.but here's a question which you could help me out on. i would like to find a forum where we can discuss worldpeace in such a manner that at the end of it, we feel better about it, better equipped, more positive, perhaps even with a real sense of power.has this discussion topic helped you?really, i am interested in your response, and anyone else here who has contributed here.
quote:Originally posted by another_someoneHow about the following premise: that perpetual world peace would be a bad thing.[/br]
quote:Originally posted by fidocancanyes, i have read your thoughts, and they are reasonable enough. i am not sure if the millions who are suffering from our exploitation of their resources would agree, or have the opportunity to disagree. i am fortunate, i have never had to live close to any form of extreme exploitation, or open warfare.
quote:Originally posted by fidocancanan equivalent premise might be: world peace may not abolish aggression and conflict, but it may stop institutional violence and thus allows each and every one of us the opportunity to consider such thoughts and participate in this discussions on this forum... you know, to make it fair.
quote:But war works both ways - it is both a means of imposing oppression, but is also often the only effective way to rid oneself of the yoke of oppression.... But, to stop this cycle, one would have to accept that there is no solution to many of those oppressed today.
quote:What do you regard as 'institutional violence'?There may be differences of scale, but how is the violence of a police officer shooting a criminal, possibly with total justification, any less 'institutional violence' than a soldier killing an enemy soldier?
quote:Originally posted by fidocancanquote:What do you regard as 'institutional violence'?There may be differences of scale, but how is the violence of a police officer shooting a criminal, possibly with total justification, any less 'institutional violence' than a soldier killing an enemy soldier?there is no difference, both are institutional. i have no need for either. i trust my fellow human beings. the reason why there is crime, is because of the injustice that a human being has to grow up in. if we have a pleasant childhood, there may not be a huge reason for resorting to crime. the institutionalisation of a police force is a result of the institutionalisation of eg poverty. get rid of one, we can get rid of the other.the military works in a similar way at the national level.
quote:Originally posted by another_someoneThe problem with your argument about injustice is that justice is very much in the eye of the beholder.
quote:Originally posted by fidocancanyour reasoning is correct, and your manner respectful. thank you.
quote:given this relativity of perception (localised as it is to you, to me, to each an everyone one of us), the question i am asking is, does this necessitate institutionalised violence?
quote:Originally posted by thayoworld peace actualization appears unrealistic, do someone agrees with me? every country eyes world power which definitely intoxicates the subject, whao lets someone talk to me.