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Do ewe wear any animal skin ?..wear a leather belt ? shoes ?
Quote from: neilep on 28/11/2009 02:39:26Do ewe wear any animal skin ?..wear a leather belt ? shoes ?Man you again I bet you eat meant !!
Quote from: ScientificBoyZClub on 28/11/2009 02:41:43Quote from: neilep on 28/11/2009 02:39:26Do ewe wear any animal skin ?..wear a leather belt ? shoes ?Man you again I bet you eat meant !!I think your cause is noble and yes..I am meat eater....we are carnivores...but the fact of the matter is.....I luff it !!.....I do try to buy my meat and fish from responsible sources though. I could not give it up....don't want to !
Quote from: neilep on 28/11/2009 02:46:32Quote from: ScientificBoyZClub on 28/11/2009 02:41:43Quote from: neilep on 28/11/2009 02:39:26Do ewe wear any animal skin ?..wear a leather belt ? shoes ?Man you again I bet you eat meant !!I think your cause is noble and yes..I am meat eater....we are carnivores...but the fact of the matter is.....I luff it !!.....I do try to buy my meat and fish from responsible sources though. I could not give it up....don't want to !STOP it man ..some say it causes cancer !!CAN you stop eating for the sake of innocent animals and GOD !!???Fish Ok !! food chain of fish is very less .. it's Ok with fish not all other.
I am also a meat eater have no problem with vegetarians or vegans. It is not my place to choose for someone else or demand that they stop eating meats... seems to me that there are things in the bible that tell us to eat meat and what animals should not be eaten... but this forum is not a religious platform. I do however respect your belief and believe you have the right to eat as you wish according to your religion... so long as it does not harm others in the process.I know lots of people who are vegans and vegetarians.. which is nice.. but not for me.
I've never heard a good reason to stop eating meat, and trying to say i'll go to hell if I do eat it is the least effective argument you could give me since I have also not heard a good argument for the existence of a god/s.
YOU are indirect KILLER
Quote from: ScientificBoyZClub on 28/11/2009 16:06:55YOU are indirect KILLER As are you, if you did but know it.Humans are omnivorous, we have been for our entire existence. Why, and who do you think you are, to question nature???I object to the waste of any food, but not to eating meat.
I'm allowed to eat meat. My astro sign is Lion.But i do make a point of not eating any endangered species. I just stick to cow/pig/chicken/turkey and occasionally deer/ostrich/kangaroo/elk/duck/pigeonI apologize in advance to all species I forgot to mention 
In Belgium we consider dogs as man's best friend and you consider as food.I rest my case.
I killed a pig and a chicken with my own hands already when I was young (I come from a family of farmers).I haven't killed a cow or a sheep yet since a law was introduced in Belgium that animal slaughter (exception of fowl) could only be done by a professional butcher with a licence to kill animals shortly after I killed the pig.I didn't feel very comfortable afterwards, probably due to my age (about 13 years old when killing the pig), but the bacon was yummy.
I have somewhat slight moral objections towards killing humans for food, but if i get lost in the forest with my friends, I'd definitely try to kill an animal to survive.And yes I can create life, it's called unprotected intercourse Furthermore, I create life yearly, when i cross breed and pollinate my collection of carnivorous plants.
SBC, can you please stop eating plants. I am a keen gardener, plants are my friends, I love plants, they too are alive until you kill and eat them.
Different cultures eat different meat and vegetation, that I am prepared to accept, but do not accept hunting wild animals to the point of extinction, or to near extinction, nor do I accept hunting wild animals for useless medicines.Therefore, I, like Nizzle, eat only meat from animals reared for the purpose (beef, lamb, pork, chicken etc.) and those which are culled out of necessity e.g. venison.
Mr.copy cat you just copied the style of Nature.Without using methods of nature can you create ?YOU CAN't aha haha aaha hhaa ha ha ha .......
Quote from: ScientificBoyZClub on 01/12/2009 09:27:46Mr.copy cat you just copied the style of Nature.Without using methods of nature can you create ?YOU CAN't aha haha aaha hhaa ha ha ha .......Pff, first you ask if i can create life without lab DNA, then I can't copy nature..I admit I'm not a gifted AI programmer so I have to say I cannot create life if I can't use Lab DNA or copy Nature.However: can you spell the word meat? But you can't use letters!! aha haha ahum 
If we shouldn't eat animals, why are they made out of meat?
meat is good.vegan is good.but just think of all the muted cry s of the plants as you rip them out of the ground incapable of the communication needed to stop you from riping them away from there home and boiling them
oh and i eat i belive far too much meat
GOD sent me to advice and stop you guys not to eat meat.If you don't listen to me YOU GO TO HELL.
SBC,Quite a lot of the UK's higher ground is too cold and wet to grow much apart from grass. People can't eat grass so we would starve if we didn't eat animals.Why does your "moral" crusade want to see me and my neighbours dead from starvation?By the way I understand morels well enough to know they don't really figure in this discussion.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MorchellaMore importantly I understand the importance of morals and I don't think it's morally acceptable for you to enforce your point of view on the rest of us.It's not morally acceptable to cause unneccesary suffering to the animals we eat. We should do our best to look after them humanely (and I know there's some irony to that word).
It's not morally acceptable to cause unneccesary suffering to the animals we eat. We should do our best to look after them humanely (and I know there's some irony to that word)
QuoteIt's not morally acceptable to cause unneccesary suffering to the animals we eat. We should do our best to look after them humanely (and I know there's some irony to that word)Unfortunately, since the demands of meat are so high, conditions for animals are rarely good. & since when is killing something & eating it treating it humanely? Yes, it feels no pain after it's dead, but you can use that same argument to justify the killing of humans. One of the reasons killing things is bad is because you're preventing them from feeling where they otherwise could - enjoying the sunshine, food, to be free. Though to be honest, where most animals are killed for food, it's safe to say it's a mercy killing, given that they are raised in boxes..
What are you views on other animals towards the top end of their food chain? pick any.. say a crocodile drowning its prey.
Drowning doesn't seem like a great way to go to me. Why is that acceptable just because it is not human?
Compare that to say a bolt through the brain, a common effective means of dispatch. I know many farmers, they care for their livestock and take pride in their welfare. How many farmers do you know? Not all animals are raised in boxes. You cant tar the entire farming industry with the same brush.
The suffering crux of your argument above is flawed.
Sadly my expertise is not in nutrition, so I'll leave that to you to investigate yourself. Set aside your bias, and take a look at arguments "from the other side".
You mention honey.. what is wrong with using/consuming honey? Do you know what honey is?
I consider everyone in the world, every sentient creature, my neighbor.
So, is it more morally defensible to slaughter non-sentient creatures?"Oh! Whack them. They can't think. What do they care?"or perhaps,"I can't think. Therefore I ain't."