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I've read that the meat industry is the biggest contributer to global warming, due to big farms for meat and more farm space for farming their feed, both of these causing more deforestation.
I've also read that it is a bigger contributer to climate change than the entire transport industry, is this true?
However, all mammals that are farmed (I'm not sure about chickens/turkeys) produce a lot of methane, which is a worse greenhouse gas than CO2. On the face of it too, farming animals would seem to be less efficient than growing crops but then a lot of the land used for grazing animals is poor quality and not suited for crop growing without excessive fertilisation, irrigation and maintenance.
I work in an area where about the only thing that grows well is grass and people can't eat grass.Sheep and cattle can eat grass and, in doing so provide food for people.While there's no doubt that eating meat is often crassly inefficient, it's sometimes the least bad option.Of course, if you don't mind people starving then that's not an issue. And if you do mind people starving then we need to sort out the planet's human population growth sooner, rather than later.
Follow the money, it's all about subsidies and corruption, both government and corporation.
If people get sick from meat or animal products then I guess one can make the assumption then that they are eating animals that were reared under non-ideal (and possibly shocking) conditions.
That is complete and utter nonsense.
Quote from: LeeE on 01/05/2010 21:37:30That is complete and utter nonsense.At least back your opinion with some information/discussion, which is all i'm looking for.
Ok you all seem to be ill informed in this area.
Factory farmed meat, which accounts for most meat in your average supermarket, has a high carbon footprint. It also uses a high proportion of land which is a valuable resource. Beef is the worst thing to eat because it relies on a fast turn over, fattening up the animals quickly. This means you need to grow food for these animals using up a high % of land that could be used for human food.
In rain forest areas trees are often cut down to provide land for cattle. These cattle need feeding so soya is grown and more trees are cut down. This has a massive effect on global warming.
I agree that buying local meat that is grazing on land such as Welsh hills is a better option. Also wild animals provide a more carbon friendly meat. If you have chickens in your garden and eat them when they stop producing eggs, then that's OK but cutting down your meat consumption is one of the best things you can do to reduce your carbon footprint.
Try this www.centreforglobalawareness.org.uk go to the resources to download and click on "The Real Price of Food." Have a go at the task. It is an eye opener.
But it's become pretty clear that information and discussion is not what you're looking for. There's been quite a bit of information and discussion already, which you've ignored...
...if all meat farming were to be stopped and the land given over to growing crops, we would need to plant all that land with only the most efficiently growing species to provide enough food for projected population sizes...
Jonathan Porrit described this time as the tipping point. This means radical change now can help.
But Lee, I think you are right in saying it could all end in tears. I'm hoping we can afford ourselves much more time in order to fix things. I'm affraid I don't hold out much hope but I'd like to go down fighting and I hold onto hope.
The sad thing is that people are ignoring the problems and blaming others. Other people just shrug their shoulders and carry on regardless. Ho Hum.