Has quantum aether been disproved? Really?

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Offline rwjefferson

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Has quantum aether been disproved? Really?
« on: 22/08/2010 22:09:57 »
The currently known elementary states of matter are bose (einstein condensation), earth (solid), water (liquid), wind (gas), fire (plasma), and aether (dark matter). 

How exactly is quantum aether disproved?

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Has quantum aether been disproved? Really?
« Reply #1 on: 23/08/2010 07:59:36 »
Is Dark Matter considered to be "aether" - I've not heard it described as such before.

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Has quantum aether been disproved? Really?
« Reply #2 on: 23/08/2010 17:27:03 »
the luminiferous ether wasn't exactly disproved - but michelson and morley and many others (without the perceived flaws in MM) have failed to detect it.  and einstein's work removes the last need for an all pervasive ether - it may come back again, who knows. 

btw it's difficult to show something doesnt exist when the thing posited is universal and non-interacting
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« Reply #3 on: 23/08/2010 17:45:45 »
btw it's difficult to show something doesnt exist when the thing posited is universal and non-interacting

Ha Ha! Very good point.  Thank God logic for Occam's Razor, eh!

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« Reply #4 on: 05/09/2010 22:38:32 »
Is Dark Matter considered to be "aether" - I've not heard it described as such before.
Few have - Earth and water and wind and plasma and bose consist of fluent electromagnetic particles – The aether wind consists of quantum particles. 

the luminiferous ether wasn't exactly disproved - but michelson and morley and many others (without the perceived flaws in MM) have failed to detect it.  and einstein's work removes the last need for an all pervasive ether – who knows.

I know - that the failure of warp to predict the accelerated rotation of galaxies - and the expansion of the universe - and the slowed course of pioneering spacecraft – are all simply answered by fluent space. 

Occam’s razor says spacetime aether is also a state of fluent particles - and the relative viscosity of spacetime aether is equivalent to hubble by the speed of light constant. 

What does disproving luminiferous have to do with disproving dark?

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