[kenhikage]

And mine thinking is in the end all about time, what it is and what it does. Consider if we could 'stop' it all, getting a whole block of 'jelly' out of it. Time as well as matter and space. What would it do to our comprehension and definitions? Without treating them as 'separated'? Where would the 'causality flow' go?

An interesting idea, but it seems to be a whole other thread, doesn't it? In hind sight, I should have started a separate thread as well, shouldn't I have? Well thanks for asking the strange questions, because that's what got me thinking about this in the first place. By the way, my understanding of relativity may be completely off-base. Or, I may just be saying with my own clumsy words what much more elegant people have already said, I really don't know. Anyway, thanks for helping me hash it out.

[yor_on (OP)]

Don't be silly man, we had a very cool discussion here, and you made me consider a whole lot of stuff, as I might have done you. Sh*, pardon me French, this is what I expect a good site to do, make me think And TNS have some really cool people on it.
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As for being of base
My questions? Well, I'm happy just to be allowed to ask them )

[kenhikage]

Well, I think we can synthesize it somewhat, and what we get if so is in a way a spiral pattern in a 3D + time. A very fuzzy spiral pattern assuming time is a flow. But if you froze any of those 'time segments' it would still be a whole object. I'm not sure if it's treatable this way as I on one side say that time 'flows', on the other speaks about 'time-segments' though. If time was 'instants' instead though

But then you meet the same problem as always, a circular thinking. If time are 'instants'?
What's in between those instants? And as you fill them up with something You will find that those also needs to be explained in their 'interfaces' with times 'instants' ad infinitum.

A flow seems simpler to me

Planck time?

[kenhikage]

Don't be silly man, we had a very cool discussion here, and you made me consider a whole lot of stuff, as I might have done you. Sh*, pardon me French, this is what I expect a good site to do, make me think And TNS have some really cool people on it.
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As for being of base
My questions? Well, I'm happy just to be allowed to ask them )

Yes, so far this is one of the better forums I've come across. Although, it doesn't seem to be highly populated. []

[yor_on (OP)]

Yep, quite an obstacle. But I see Planck time as defined as the smallest instant we can make physical sense of. Plank. I've seen some physicists/mathematicians propose the 'now' as the only true definition of time too. Makes me very confused that one as it invalidates all ideas about a 'history' to draw a conclusion from and makes all statistics into a joke. And Planck time I think of as a border for SpaceTime, just as lights invariant velocity or speed.

But you're right, it all depends on where you stand looking at it.
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It goes up and down, TNS does, so I expect it to become populated again But it's still the best place I've found since old Physorg died. As it is broadminded and treats people fair, to my eyes that is

[kenhikage]

Ah! So there are smaller units of time, but (as of right now) they have no meaning. Nothing (seems to be able to) happen at less than that short of an iteration. I understand now.

I suppose "now" is as natural as a point. Nothing can occupy that and only that.

[yor_on (OP)]

Yes that's my understanding too, that this (Planck time) is a 'limit'. Maybe we don't need to break it either, it might be that we can look at SpaceTime in some way where this limit will be true but where time still might be a 'flow'. Modern Science mostly like to treat time as 'instants' though. But for me those instants glue still have to be explained for it to make sense. And there's where my imagination ends
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Well, there are some that think the mind, or consciousness, to provide that 'glue', but that makes for a very 'unreal' universe to me. In fact a universe built on 'magic' to my eyes. And if it is that way we are truly smart to create so plausible explanations for that 'magic' As all magic to their nature are inexplainable in that no explanations are needed. After all, it's 'magic'.

[kenhikage]

Again, waves verses points on one.