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You might expand on this one.show how it is thought to be doneAs you jumped directly from ω/k=Vp"∂ΨR/∂ x + ∂ΨR/∂ t = 0If we pull the derivative down in respect to x in our function gives ik, and if we pull down our derivative in respect to t gives us iω, and if we take the two from each other we have:"
Yeah! Brilliant post! (Way beyond me of course)
The wave function is a probability distribution over all space and all time, providing the possibilities of any physical system to appear anywhere at any time.
ω/k=Vpwhere Vp is the phase velocity, ....Interestingly, the value ω/k can take values which are either +1 or -1.
The meaning of the two becomes more valid under more research. The equation of interest now comes in the form:∂ΨR/∂ x + ∂ΨR/∂ t = 0
In which case? If one choose c as unit of speed, what you wrote seems to be valid for photons only. I don't understand.When learning about the Dirac Equation in a class, you must be introduced to the phase velocity in this form. There is no point jumping equations because then nothing is learned.
If we ask how fast a particle goes, with this equation here ω2=m2+k2 then we need to compute the group velocity ∂ω/∂k=k/√m2+k2. And this tells us the velocity of a wave.
How did you get this from the Dirac equation? Can you explain?Do you know anything about partial derivates?
Ψ = ei(kx-ωt) is what we need. ∂ΨR/∂ x + ∂ΨR/∂ t = 0 whenever you take a wave form like this
Quote from: Geezer on 31/12/2010 07:22:07Yeah! Brilliant post! (Way beyond me of course) Mathematics is NOT a science - its a philosophical game of proofs based on delusional axioms
Quote from: QuantumClue on 31/12/2010 16:10:55In which case? If one choose c as unit of speed, what you wrote seems to be valid for photons only. I don't understand.When learning about the Dirac Equation in a class, you must be introduced to the phase velocity in this form. There is no point jumping equations because then nothing is learned.Sorry, but I haven't understood. I don't know anything about Dirac eq., so what ω stands for? And k? Because, if they had the same meaning they have in non-relativistic QM, the phase velocity cannot be just 1 or -1 (case of photons), but it is (1/k)*sqrt(m2+k2). Do you mean that the equation you wrote is the one valid for photons only? I'm just trying to understand.Quote If we ask how fast a particle goes, with this equation here ω2=m2+k2 then we need to compute the group velocity ∂ω/∂k=k/√m2+k2. And this tells us the velocity of a wave.Yes, certainly, infact is the inverse of the phase velocity (their product is c2 for a free particle, but here c =1).QuoteHow did you get this from the Dirac equation? Can you explain?Do you know anything about partial derivates?Yes.Quote Ψ = ei(kx-ωt) is what we need. ∂ΨR/∂ x + ∂ΨR/∂ t = 0 whenever you take a wave form like thisAh, yes, certainly. Only that I haven't understood why "you take a wave form like this".