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quote:Originally posted by HadrianI like to look at the positive side of things and I hope that we will have advanced to new levels of prosperity and eradicated poverty and war from our planet. To do this it will mean that we will have had to change a lot of our thinking. If not we will only continue to accelerate the rate at which the differences between people grow. You can imagine where that will leads us and the damage we will do in the process.
quote:Originally posted by RRR1) With a parameter of the world's ecologic situation our civilization have not any "progress" and the world's ecologic situation of any times of 1000 years ago it was much more pure than now, in the 2006 year. .A modern industry "throw out" industrial pollutions and industrial durty into a nature. The view of the world of the 3006 year it can be something similar to a giant cesspit of industrial pollutions and radio-active contaminations.
quote:2) In a future "a progress" is expected in the military field..Each country in the future will be have a nuclear weapon.The wars of future it can be wars with nuclear weapon.The world terrorists of future they can have nuclear bombsand make teracts with nuclear bomb..
quote:3) In past times and in modern times some world's countries "produces" biologic weapon with military goals.Mortal diseases like AIDS is one of results of the works.Maybe and the AIDS is a result of the works. In a future "a progress" is expected in the field and the world receive a lot of new diseases like AIDS..
quote:Originally posted by RRRÀnd what are the measures and figures?.Dear George! In the 1906 year our civilization had industrial pollutions only. Now, in the 2006 year, in addition to industrial pollutions the Earth has a lot of new areas with "nuclear contaminations, radio-active contaminations, industrial contaminations. Now we have and "space refuse" with remains of space apparats etc. In the 1906 year the Earth had much more areas of forests, than we had it now. You can see that In the past times our civilization had much more pure nature than we have it now.
quote:ANOTHER SOMEONE wrote:"This is probably true, although it will not happen in isolation, and no doubt there will be some mitigating developments as well."Why "it will not happen" ?
quote:About development of the civilization..100 years ago the countries of our northern civilization of "the christian countries with white men"(USA,Canada,Europe, Russia, Australia etc) have much more lands and colonies than now, in the 2006 year.Now the countries of our "democratic" civilization have not the world's lands..Leaving the lands Our "democratic" civilization has a movement to political decline,but the islam and countries of the islamic civilization have a movement to the great political growth.A huge amount of population in islamic countries they do not support an US idea of "democratic society" but support of idea of "islamic revolution in the world" with islamic cultural priorities without any democracy.Now a population of islamic countries it is more than 1 billion persons and the islamic peoples increase theirselves with giant speeds towards to a figure of 2 billion persons..An impotence of military actions of USA in wars in Vietnam(1963-73)and in Iraq (since 2003) it is a sign of an impotence of the USA .. The military impotence is a movement to political decline of the western civilization.
quote:Originally posted by RRRANOTHER SOMEONE WROTE: It is probably true that the Earth had more forests in 1906 (although this is not quantifiable), but the loss of forest is not of itself a form of pollution, although it may cause, or be caused by, pollution. The more significant, but more difficult to asses, and always neglected, question is not whether there are more or less forest, but whether there is more or less chlorophyll.You forget that a chlorophyll's source is trees and plants.But global forest's areas are diminished..
quote:SOME FORECASTS of REAL ECOLOGIC TRAGEDIES for FUTURE:Spain's scientists they'll give forecasts that in 100 years Spain can be a desert like Sahara. Italia's scientists they'll give similar forecasts for Italy.China's sources they'll give similar forecasts for the Northern half of China. In 100 years Spain,Italy, Turkey and others Mediterranean countries can be a desert like Sahara..
quote:Scientists write about causes of it:1) Diminishing of forest's areas .2) Global getting warmer. An average year's temperature becomesmore and more hot.
quote:================================It will be not a surprise if in 100 years the Southern Europe(Spain, Italy etc) and The USA's half will be a desert like Sahara. It will be not a surprise if In 1000 years the Earth will be global desert like Mars .======================================
quote:Originally posted by RRR1)An agriculture do not give chlorophyll's growing. One of basic parts of an agriculture it is a cattle breeding.Cows,sheeps and pigs do not produce chlorophyll. With paysants they consume O2, they drain pastures, and they produce CO2, urine and excrements. Village's air is an air of cow's excrements..
quote:2)Major reasons for the global fall in the size of forest:-fast increasing of human population.-An agriculure with growing areas of new pastures and farming lands.
quote:-An industry with growing areas of cities,new roads and factories.
quote:-Growing productions of wood-working industry, paper-working industry etc.
quote:-A nature's pollutions by human activity.
quote:The Earth's life depend on the Sun's light. We can predict Earth's end by a knowledge of Sun's future.The Sun transforms the Sun's hydrogen into the Sun's helium. A science knows Sun's amounts of Helium and Hydrogen and a science can predict the future of the Sun. In 4.5 billions yeas the Sun will become a red giant star with total destroying of the Earth, the Venus and the Mercury.
quote:Originally posted by realmswalkerIf you notice, the rate of scientific advancement has, in general, increased as the population has increased in the world.This is because, with a higher population, more people will end up being scientisits.
quote:So large population isnt a bad thing...People say we need to devise population control, this isntr true, we need to devise expansion!Space colonies would certaintly help solve over crowding, the harvesting of galactic resources would allow for an increase of population, and conversly and increase in scientific development.It seems to be exponential!
quote:In a world where other jobs disapear, the carreer of science will surely be chosen more often!
quote:Originally posted by RRRA medecine and genetics has a goal to provide an eternal live without a death . Imagine, that a science will fulfill it and human persons will become immortal.
quote:It is not good.The immortal human persons will give birth to new children. The immortal children will give a birth to new children etc. In short time The Earth will be overcrowded with billions,trillions, quintillions of human immortal persons.
quote:But resources of the Earth is limited. Resources of any other planet is limited too. In short time the giant human populations will consume planet's waters,oxygene,food etc totally.
quote:Therefore without a food and a water the civilization will be have not any immortality and the human civilization will die out.
quote:Ha-Ha! Sorry, but it is impossible because human person does not work without any necessity.If robotic labour will replace manual labour then human person will be not work in any field. The humans they'll be rest at home and at health resorts with a lifestyle of good-for-nothing persons and robot will be work for the useless human person and instead of humans. All works (include a science) human persons will give for robots ..
quote:With a science's progress the robot's civilization will be much more wise than the human civilization.. With a time "wise robot's civilization" will establish a dominance over "foolish" human civilization in all fields...It is possible that the sensible wise robot's civilization will destroy "foolish" human civilization similar to Spanish concistadors did destroy American indians. Human civilization will disappear.
quote:another someone wrote:Since grass is much faster growing than the average tree, so it must consume a great deal more carbon than the average tree.You forget that a lot of trees (for example: a fir, a pine-tree) produce chlorophyll during everytime of year, but a grass is absent during winter times with a snow and low temperature..You forget that into a forests there is a grass too. In addition to a grass into forests there are trees and bushs with shelves. There are a moss, ferns, lianas etc. An acre of forest's area produces much more chlorophyll's volume with O2 than an acre of any agricultural fields or any pastures with a grass.... ..Look at figures of chlorophyll's volumes in forests and in agricultural fields and by the figures you' ll see your error. The forests are basic source of the Earth's chlorophyll. The global volume of clorophyll depend on the Earth's areas of forests.
quote:another someone wrote: This will not be enough to destroy all life on Earth, but it will certainly provide a thorough spring clean.No, it is not true. According to the astronomy's science In 4.5 billions years the Sun will become a red giant star and the Earth will be dissolve into the Sun. Of course, before the time the Earth's life will be burn by the growing Sun. The Earth's planet will be not exist eternally.
quote:Originally posted by RRRTo receive an immortality there are some ways.It is known that the basic death's causes are heart's diseases.Human heart can not work eternally. Instead of old human heart, it is need to put an artifical heart into the human breast. An energetic resource of an artifical hearth is not eternal. But the old artifical heart with a time it will be replace by new artigical heart by medical operations. When the new artifical heart will become old it will be replace by new artifical heart etc.With a system of artifical hearts a person can live endlessly.
quote:With a science's progress the significant increase of human life it is inevitablity. But if a people has zero's birth rate then the people will die out. Do you think that by the way the human civilization will die out?
quote: ======================================Another someone wrote:Food, oxygen, and water, are not limiting quantities – the limiting factor is energy. With enough energy, we can synthesise all of our other needs.The Earth 's volume is 1 trillon of cubic kilometers.(1 mile= 1.6 kilometers).(1 trillion= 1 000 000 000 000)The Earth's oxygen is a tiny part of the Earth's matter.Do you think that Earth's oxygen is unlimited ?Do you think that with an energy (and by an energy) it is possible to transform a stone into a bread, a water into a vin, and space's vacuum into an oxygen?
quote:In the situation:Capitalistic owners, plant-holders and landlords they'll replace human workers by robots because machines are better than humans. Robots are better than humans at doing everything. Robots work during 24 hours daily.Robots do not need a salary . Robots do not need a rest.Human workers they'll be unempoyed. Human workers they'll be beggars.Human workers they'll by without chances to earn money by legal way. In the sitiation the human workers they'll be earn money by criminal way by a robbery etc...
quote:another someone wrote: Somehow, however much machines might be able to do everything that humans can do, and do it better; ..It may be the only work left for humans may be prostitution,You are quite right.. The situation is possible.But what is a way for human civilization to rescue itself?