[Andrew K Fletcher]

indeed they do!

"The explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is most likely to be correct."
K.I.S. "Keep it simple!"

[JimBob]

So you are saying that cell resperation in a singled celled creature is the same as blood coursing though a fetus? Or are you calling upon a second, outside force to animate the egg?


The mind is like a parachute. It works best when open.  -- A. Einstein

[Andrew K Fletcher]

Indeed, and the same as the flow that drives the Atlantic Conveyor System, powering the World’s Weather Systems. No matter how vast or small, the same non-living physical force animates the circulation. From a single cell to the multi-cellular structures of the living world as we know it. Oddly enough, there is reference to this in the Dead Sea Scrolls, stating that the flow of sap in the tree is the same as the flow of fluids through the human body.

"The explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is most likely to be correct."
K.I.S. "Keep it simple!"

[Hadrian (OP)]

quote:Originally posted by Andrew K Fletcher

The answer is neither


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I have to totally agree with you. To me it is the universal force that links all life all energy. If there is a theory of everything  then it must have this at its core.

What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.

[Amon]

quote:Originally posted by another_someone

Thinking a little about this, it occurred to me that the development of mineral shells on eggs must have developed alongside the development of the beak, because without the sharp beak, it would have been difficult to break through the hard shell, but with the beak, it must be more difficult to break out of a soft coated egg.

George

Or you could also argue that the new beak of newborns killed every mother which kept their offspring in their whomb by ripping the uterus and only the mothers who would reject their chicks in an egg would survive and thrive! The answer is the beak, then the egg which gave the chicken!

[Hadrian (OP)]

Some of the old question are still the best
 


What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.

[another_someone]

quote:Originally posted by Amon
Or you could also argue that the new beak of newborns killed every mother which kept their offspring in their whomb by ripping the uterus and only the mothers who would reject their chicks in an egg would survive and thrive! The answer is the beak, then the egg which gave the chicken!

Excepting that egg laying animals pre-date placental animals.

George

[bkelly]

After a brief review, this answer was not found, so here goes.

Evolution occurs in steps when the DNA from male and female join to form the next generation.  This is the time that the two sets of DNA come together and create an individual with possibly new attributes.  This is the only time. 

The result of that joining is the fertilized egg or zygote.  It may be an egg within a mammal or an egg within a hard shell.  The question of the chicken and egg refers to the hard shelled egg that is laid by the chicken. 

So, in consideration that the genetic change in the animal is present in the egg before it is present in the adult, the egg did indeed come first.