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I believe what I said is highly accurate, for the purpose I said it. Light is necessary to create the infrared emission from the element. You just cannot do it without the light. Meaning as you increase the power to the element, it naturally starts emitting rays designed to carry away more energy. And they do. When I create a very powerful ARC through pure argon, using a couple thousand watts, of power, there is a pinpoint heat generated, in very close proximity to the ARC, however most of the rays, leave the area, as light and UV. There is almost no infrared. So I have to contest that heat is reliving the area of energy. Regular heat does not pass through silicon without heating it, infrared rays do. Now I was taught that infrared is a form of light. It certainly is not regular heat. On the other side of the coin infrared is ineffective at moving the veins of a radiometer, if no white light is present. If there is the slightest white light present, then the infrared will move the veins of the radiometer and at amazing speeds. Certainly the terminology leaves something to be desired of no matter which way you look at it. I don't think that infrared is neither light or heat myself. But I do not see why we cannot make communication about it better. Sincerely, William McCormick
Quote from: William McCormick on 11/08/2012 15:41:35I believe what I said is highly accurate, for the purpose I said it. Light is necessary to create the infrared emission from the element. You just cannot do it without the light. Meaning as you increase the power to the element, it naturally starts emitting rays designed to carry away more energy. And they do. When I create a very powerful ARC through pure argon, using a couple thousand watts, of power, there is a pinpoint heat generated, in very close proximity to the ARC, however most of the rays, leave the area, as light and UV. There is almost no infrared. So I have to contest that heat is reliving the area of energy. Regular heat does not pass through silicon without heating it, infrared rays do. Now I was taught that infrared is a form of light. It certainly is not regular heat. On the other side of the coin infrared is ineffective at moving the veins of a radiometer, if no white light is present. If there is the slightest white light present, then the infrared will move the veins of the radiometer and at amazing speeds. Certainly the terminology leaves something to be desired of no matter which way you look at it. I don't think that infrared is neither light or heat myself. But I do not see why we cannot make communication about it better. Sincerely, William McCormick I'm starting to think you are trolling.Nobody else is going to believe that you are accurate. That nonsense about the Sun being a laser or surrounded by CO2 will make sure of that.Light is not needed to generate IR.IR LEDs and an ordinary light bulb run at low voltage prove this.So this "Light is necessary to create the infrared emission from the element. You just cannot do it without the light." is plainly wrong. "Meaning as you increase the power to the element, it naturally starts emitting rays designed to carry away more energy. And they do."Doesn't make sense because the radiation (IR or visible) wasn't designed at all.If you look here, you can see the emission spectrum from an argon arc lamp. (btw, It's not an abbreviation so it isn't written in capitals)http://www.pre.ethz.ch/facilities/vortec/ As you can see, much, if not most of the radiation emitted is IR"Regular heat does not pass through silicon without heating it, infrared rays do."Will you please learn the difference between silica and silicon. This"On the other side of the coin infrared is ineffective at moving the veins of a radiometer, if no white light is present. If there is the slightest white light present, then the infrared will move the veins of the radiometer and at amazing speeds. "Is just not true.
Here is a proof that at one time many did learn that CO2 surrounds the sun, and that its incandescence is what creates the very bright light. The yellow color of the sun through our atmosphere, might be explained by carbon as the source. Helium is of a red band, and so is hydrogen if I am not mistaken. Carbon and Co2 have that yellow spectrum.
This is pre-world war two stuff, before the government openly announced that they would hide the secret of the atom from earth. Maybe Russia was fearful of how the Americans and English, were going to get the secret of the atom, out of their heads, so they started the cold war. Ha-ha.
Kirchoff's law?
Quote from: CZARCAR on 12/08/2012 16:51:24Kirchoff's law?What about it?It's certainly no going to support William's assertion that the moon is made of green cheese or whatever it was that he said.
Damocles, did you have any trouble with the link I posted to the arc spectrum?
If you check out this document, you will see during the war they decided that individuals on earth should not have the secret of the atom or the atom bomb. There was no conspiracy because they came out and said it. If you come out and tell people their government is going to make them as stupid as wood, there is no conspiracy. In the peoples defense they just thought the government was going to hide the bomb, not the atom. You know governments they are not always to smart, or truthful.
My father worked at Grumman Aero Space. TSorry I did not get back to you sooner I was welding up a set of railings for a friend. I made some shop drawings about three weeks ago, and bent it up two weekends ago, and yesterday and today between doing laundry, I welded them up. Now it is back to work tomorrow, Ahhhhhh. Sincerely, William McCormick
Quote from: William McCormick on 12/08/2012 13:11:19If you check out this document, you will see during the war they decided that individuals on earth should not have the secret of the atom or the atom bomb. There was no conspiracy because they came out and said it. If you come out and tell people their government is going to make them as stupid as wood, there is no conspiracy. In the peoples defense they just thought the government was going to hide the bomb, not the atom. You know governments they are not always to smart, or truthful. There was never a "secret of the atom". The discovery of nuclear fission was down to Hahn & Strassmann in Germany and Meitner and Frisch in Sweden in the year before the 2nd world war started. It was openly published in the science literature.See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fission#HistoryAny chemist or nuclear physicist could easily tell from the information on the public record that nuclear fission was a branched chain reaction, and therefore potentially explosive. The only secret that the US government wanted to or would have been able to keep was a series of secrets about how to go about engineering the basic science to produce a bomb. There are about 7 or 8 features of the nuclear fission reaction that make this engineering quite tricky and problematic.So there was certainly a secret of the bomb, indeed several of them. But secret of the atom? Not at all clear what you are getting at here, nor what its relevance to this particular topic is. But the way it has been told certainly sounds conspiratorial -- especially the bit about the Russians going haha!
...(SNIP)...That is what you read, and learned. However if you look at what Benjamin Franklin had discovered about matter and the particle of electricity. And the advancements some, not all, Americans made in science. ***(COMMENT 1)***You would know that the actual Hiroshima bomb, did in fact weigh just under a half ton. The duplicate of the bomb, dropped on Hiroshima, sat on display at West Point for many years. I believe they removed the display, shortly after I visited West Point. ***(COMMENT 2)***When the Freedom of information Act was introduced in the seventies. They released the video of the women actually making those bombs. Women in hair nets. Complete with the substances and weights needed to build one. On public funded television. My facetious question might be, "Was that the cover up of the bomb, and the atom, or was that the bomb and atom released?" I am not saying believe me or trust me. I am saying give a possible truth a chance. Ask yourself this, why did we need the freedom of information act, to uncover zero secrets? Why were most of the secrets about pre-world war two weapons. This bomb I am mentioning was around before World War Two.***(Comment 3)***The half ton Hiroshima bomb, was in fact not made with highly radio active material. Only slightly radio active fuel oils. That is why they did hide the bomb, and the atom. When you release 7,600,000 BTU's in a fraction of a second, you get a blast, like the one at Hiroshima. ***(COMMENT 4)***The bomb casing was some type of metal that although faintly developed a brown or reddish tint, on the welds, it did not rust. That could mean chrome-molly, or manganese steel, or even titanium. I did not test it. ***(Comment 5)***The core of the bomb was a metal sphere filled with 25 pounds of ammonium nitrate with many precision detonators all around the sphere, all aiming at the center of the core. Each detonator had an equal length wire to each one, so that they would all fire exactly at the same time. The core was suspended by chain in the center of the bomb. A lot of women with hair nets were making them. The core was suspended so it would stay in the center of the bomb casing and the oil payload in the bomb casing. ***(COMMENT 6)***The oil was a high BTU oil, again I do not have the exact specifics of the oil, something like a #6 fuel oil or rosin oil, perhaps even a creosote oil. When you try to blow oil apart, from the inside, you increase the pressure upon the oil so suddenly that, it almost solidifies. Very similar to doing a belly flop into water. For a split second that waters surface is almost as hard as cement. The water cannot be displaced fast enough. The oil, for a split second, becomes an unmovable ojbect. It has to do with the physics of start change and stop. During that time, the core and the oil reach temperatures of the sun. Leveling just about anything within a quarter mile radius. Of course horrid effects move out much further. But the actual total devastation area is about a quarter mile radius. Which is to this day a very, very powerful bomb. If you have ever detonated asphalt you know the power of asphalt. You just have to electrically or chemically shock asphalt to detonate it. Asphalt has much less BTU's then #6 fuel oil. #6 fuel oil is over two hundred times more powerful then asphalt. ***(COMMENT 7)***... (snip) ...Science has been dictated by government, through grant monies and tax breaks for many generations now here in America. This is not conspiracy, rather fact. I have heard many times now, that science is above petty politics. Well if that is true, scientists would not be taking grant monies from such people. The truth is ...(SNIP)...***(Comment ***