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quote:Originally posted by heikki1. Our life-style is wrong at many kind.2. Our mind-thinking basic level is also wrong at many ways.3. Finance-economy laws wich control us is mainly wrong nature-basic.
quote:Originally posted by HadrianHow about not using any more energy then you can replace?
quote:Originally posted by HadrianIf each of us had to created the energy to replace the energy we consumed I bet we use less.
quote:Originally posted by heikkiI think that your opinion is not full. Nature forms life is more than calculating energy-entropy. Energy-calculation is hmm.how i say, mathematical story ot matter behaviour processes. Earth-ball forms matter behaviour processes. I think that you dont understand "energy" meanings enough. Energy itself dont exist. When we eat something food, this food dont transform itself food-matter-particles to energy particles. Then there is no matter-energy transform process. Only food-particles goes round of our body and this particles is our life-"energy".
quote:Oil, what is purpose or hmm. purpose is not good word but, what is purpose or need hmm. need is maybe better word, so, why matter-form, called earth, earth-ball, made oil? What is the oil influence to our earth-ball life motion?
quote:A.there is absolutely no difference between obtaining energy from food, or burning coal or oil.B.I'm not sure that the word 'need' has any more meaning in this case. Need presupposes some objective, and in the absence of specifying such an objective, you cannot define a need.C.Does the Earth have an objective, excepting the natural process of all nature, to maximise entropy?
quote:Originally posted by heikkiA. I think that there is difference and it is also important to notice. If i drink oil or eat firewood it's material "construction" is not so kind that it keep me alive or our body digestion can handdle or use it. I think that this "energy"-error basic is that some believe that all energy is same basic-calculation matter process. I mean that entropy-stuff.Mainly i think that we must start to use life-basic matter-ideas than use entropy-calculation. I think that when we speak that matter-motion processes which is made technical processes like electricity, oil burning, entropy-principle, that is one matter-behaving area.Other is life-energy matter-behaving processes which is different and if we calculate only entropy-calculation of these area we go wrong direction. (I dont mean any kind of un-matter processes but i mean that we dont yet know how matter works actually or what is example smaller material parts construction or mind-funtions. Therefore i think that we need new matter-construction theory which is not atom-theory basic. Atom-theory basic dont has that mind-funtion and therefore it cannot handdle that matter-life-'energy' situation.
quote:B.Maybe. Still of cource, i can use word need. Why? Hmm. Because i think that i'm a matter-construction human form, part of nature. And i have mind and needs. Earth-ball is also matter-construction nature form and it is dubbing of many nature form and matter-construction. Of cource earth-ball needs is not same kind like us, example sea-water. It not has mind that we cannot actually compare, but, can we understand sea-water existing-mind?
quote: But, can we says that nature behavings, like water-processes dont has any kind of so called "nature mindwork-process", example when raining. If sky is blue, dont rain. So clouds must "born" first and after that only can raining. But, why must raining? I mean that all nature process-things has incluence to round of that process-thing and to time forward.
quote:C.If i understand you question right, i say, no.I think that nature-processes dont work maximise principle way. I think that nature processes, like earth-ball whole process, is like life, like all nature living forms life is. And it has some kind of balance funtion. Sun, earth, moon, and space between these, has some kind of balance-function to it's process so that this process work, year by year, to it's own lifetime. River, lake, clouds, rain, has also some kind on balance-function to it's process to relation to other, like ground.
quote:But, like i says, these is only my opinion and thoughts, I can be right or wrong, 0%, 50%, or 100%.
quote:I'm sorry my poor english, maybe i use wrong words some places, but i hope that you understand