[Deecart]

Pesticides help with those aspects, but that fact is apparently left out of the report.

Unnatural pesticides is responsible of the 80% insect loss within the last 30 years.
This lead to millions of deaths within the birds and other vertebrates.
The soil is almost dead everywhere and not only where the pesticide has been sprayed.
Continuing this behavior is pure suicide, it does not help the human to feed :We are are the beginning of some great starvation worldwide. Wake up...we have only some few years to change this.

So you say that the plants produce "pesticides" since hundred millions of years and nothing like that has never happened ?
But for you unnatural and natural pesticide is the same ?
Bullshit !

[Bored chemist]

The toxicity of natural olive oil has been tested on mises, it is almost null

I presume you mean tested on mice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mus_(genus)

So what?
Mice are known to eat olives.
https://wekillweeds.com/keep-mice-and-rats-away-best-tips/

Mice are, I suspect, not a major pest in olive groves. If they are, it makes more sense to get a cat.
Since mice are not a pest, it does not make sense to test pesticides on them.

You don't know much about toxicology, do you?

[Bored chemist]

Pesticides help with those aspects, but that fact is apparently left out of the report.

Unnatural pesticides is responsible of the 80% insect loss within the last 30 years.
This lead to millions of deaths within the birds and other vertebrates.
The soil is almost dead everywhere and not only where the pesticide has been sprayed.
Continuing this behavior is pure suicide, it does not help the human to feed :We are are the beginning of some great starvation worldwide. Wake up...we have only some few years to change this.

So you say that the plants produce "pesticides" since hundred millions of years and nothing like that has never happened ?
But for you unnatural and natural pesticide is the same ?
Bullshit !

Did you read the report you cited?
"International human rights law sets forth comprehensive State obligations to respect, protect and fulfil human rights. In particular, the rights to adequate food and to health provide clear protections for all people against excessive or inappropriate use of pesticides.

They understand the difference between appropriate use and inappropriate use of pesticides.
Why don't you?

[Deecart]

So what?
Mice are known to eat olives.
https://wekillweeds.com/keep-mice-and-rats-away-best-tips/

Mice are, I suspect, not a major pest in olive groves. If they are, it makes more sense to get a cat.
Since mice are not a pest, it does not make sense to test pesticides on them.

You don't know much about toxicology, do you?

I dont know if i know much or less, but i can at least read.

So what ?

5. Toxicology

The effects of OLE on the hematology, biochemistry, kidney, and liver of Wistar male albino rats were determined to evaluate its toxicity profile. Total 30 rats were included in the study and fed on the OLE for 6 weeks. They were divided into five groups with group 1 being the control group (regular diet without OLE), and the other four groups fed on 0.2%, 0.4%, 0.7%, and 0.9%, respectively. The factors that were studied were lactate dehydrogenase (LDH), concentrations of alkaline phosphatase (ALP) in serum, cholesterol, bilirubin, triglycerides, and glucose levels. Groups 3, 4, and 5 showed a significant increase in the total bilirubin and serum ALP levels while cholesterol, glucose, and serum triglyceride levels were decreased in these groups as compared to the control group. Group 5 was affected the most as its liver and kidneys showed alterations in their tissues including necrosis of hepatocytes and a slight hemorrhage. So it was concluded that OLE should be used with care, especially, when being used at higher doses for longer periods of times as it may have undesirable effects on liver and kidneys [256]. Safety profile of maslinic acid (67), a compound isolated from the cuticle of O. europaea, was assessed by oral administration of high doses to mice. It was observed that a single oral administration of 1000 mg/Kg to mice did not produce any adverse effects and upon administration of a daily dose of 50 mg/Kg for 28 days did not produce any symptoms of toxicity [257].

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ecam/2015/541591/

This is the paper you proposed yourself....

So what?
Mice are known to eat olives.
https://wekillweeds.com/keep-mice-and-rats-away-best-tips/

Mice are, I suspect, not a major pest in olive groves. If they are, it makes more sense to get a cat.
Since mice are not a pest, it does not make sense to test pesticides on them.

Hahaha, thats at least some funy tought.
Mice dont eat olives ! (LOL)

You don't know much about toxicology, do you?

A little and it looks like you dont know a clue of it : We do many toxicological studies on mice and rat (because they are similar to humans of course).

They dont need to eat olives so as to be used for the tests... (sorry but i need to laught again).

[Bored chemist]

A little and it looks like you dont know a clue of it : We do many toxicological studies on mice and rat (because they are similar to humans of course).

And they tell us nothing about whether or not something kills greenfly or whatever (because insects are not very similar to humans or to mice).

So they are not really the way in which we choose pesticides, are they?

So, telling me that olives don't kill mice does not say anything about whether phytochemicals from olives could be used as pesticides, does it?

[Bored chemist]

Mice dont eat olives !

Yes they do.

[Bored chemist]

Safety profile of maslinic acid (

There are lots of other chemicals in olives.
Showing that one of them doesn't kill mice is pretty much meaningless.
Did you not realise that?

[Deecart]

So they are not really the way in which we choose pesticides, are they?

Yes and this is why we dont immediatly call them "pesticides" like you, every time we find some molecule capable of acting on bacterias or fungies.
We call then antibiotics.

(I already explained you that you can also use salt as "pesticide"...)

But enough of that.
Olive oil and preferential extra (pressed at low temperature) NATURAL (why add some unhealty molecule to some healty food ? ? ?) olive oil is well suited to lower cholesterol.
I have observed it myself (its why i choose this example) : My mother had very bad cholesterol values (and other bad immunology values etc). She went sick, making some stroke.
She never used olive oil prefering margarine and other omega crap oil. Now it is me who do the cooking and i use almost vegetarian food (with sometime some fish, shellfish and molluscs) and salad with olive oil ONLY.
Now we did some new measurement of his biological values : The physician was astonished, all went ok, even her blood pressure.
So i believe the paper i read about the olive oil and the "mediteranean diet".

 
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[Bored chemist]

Yes and this is why we dont immediatly call them "pesticides" like you,

Did you not realise that  "These findings suggested that olive waste waters may be used in agriculture for pests management " was a quote?
It's not me who was saying it.
It's the paper I cited.

[Deecart]

Did you not realise that  "These findings suggested that olive waste waters may be used in agriculture for pests management " was a quote?
It's not me who was saying it.
It's the paper I cited.

This question is only of some importance for you.

Now.
Just answer this simple question :
Is olive oil coming from plants without additional pesticides better for health or is olive oil coming from plants with additional pesticides better for health ?

1. With.
2. Without

What do you guess ?

[Bored chemist]

I thought I had answered that but...OK...

What do you guess ?

It's better to use actual reasoning, rather than guessing.

Oil containing pesticides (at low levels) is healthier because more people can afford it.
It will also contain fewer toxic fungal metabolites.

The pesticides are generally chosen so that they are not very toxic to people; fungi are not so fussy.