[lilkim (OP)]

what exactly is meant by that and does it truely work?

B free!!!

[neilep]

Hi KIm,

Wiki has a little article about it HERE

...but essentially it's the ability to use your own mind to control certain aspects of external stimuli upon the body....it's akin to Will Power !

For instance...a hot coal walker may use some form of mind over matter to enable them to walk on hot coals.....this is just one example..

..another may be to enable the use of strong self control when enduring other forms of pain or when a particular physical goal is required eg..losing weight.......

I am sure more intelligent answers will follow.

Men are the same as women, just inside out !

[sharkeyandgeorge]

hi lilkim there is no such thing as mind over matter its really mind over mind everyones body has massive potential that is almost never accessed and why?. because as you grow up you create in your own mind boundries of what you can and cannot do this may be because it hurt when you tried somthing or you were not able to do it at the time and that is fixed in your mind even if your bady develops further,
When people talk about mind over matter, such as a parent lifting a car to rescue a child it is not a miricle nor superhuman its just that somrthing far more important than your preconcieved notions can smash them apart and allow youto access all your potential.

[tony6789]

i think it means something like: u need to focus ur mind on what u want even if something is standing in your way

NEVER! underestimate youth

[another_someone]

The alternative, solipsist, perspective would be that mind is all, and matter may only be an illusion.

George

[4getmenot]

This is what is seen everytime i ask this...everyone has a different meaning or explination for what it means, yet there is no "one" meaning for it and that is what i want to know...ya know? It is hard to say...just what truely is meant by it, but i will keep asking and keep looking for it...lol

k

[another_someone]

quote:Originally posted by 4getmenot
This is what is seen everytime i ask this...everyone has a different meaning or explination for what it means, yet there is no "one" meaning for it and that is what i want to know...ya know? It is hard to say...just what truely is meant by it, but i will keep asking and keep looking for it...lol

That you get so many different answers probably says as much as anything – that it really does not have much intrinsic meaning at all, but is a phrase used to carry whatever meaning the speaker wishes to attribute to it at the moment.

George

[gecko]

yes, the definition is loose. however, in the definition that the mind can actually effect matter(example, making a car lighter or makign the coals less hot), its just supernatural hogwash. in the sense that the mind can effect its own perception(example, blocking out pain, using never-before known strength), it has some merit.

as for walking on hot coals, anyone can do that because wood is such a poor conducter of heat. walking on hot frying pans would be something else! alot of these mind-over-matter demonstations are simply things anyone can do. most people dont understand the physics behind it,  so it seems supernatural.

alot of people, having bad experiences with PCP, have been known to fight off 5 or 6 people at a time, rip doors off of hinges, and other "supernatural" feats of strength. usually these people extend their muscles to the point where they rip them or tear their joints. anyone can do these things, but your mind does put a sort of "limit" on it for your own safety. a simple change in brain chemistry from a drug or  natural adrenaline and panic, can push these limits.

[4getmenot]

interesting article...but no one i guess has a true meaning of it or where it came from...

k

[4getmenot]

I guess this subject is finished???

k

[4getmenot]

well i mind if it matters...

k

[another_someone]

quote:Originally posted by gecko
as for walking on hot coals, anyone can do that because wood is such a poor conducter of heat. walking on hot frying pans would be something else! alot of these mind-over-matter demonstations are simply things anyone can do. most people dont understand the physics behind it,  so it seems supernatural.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leidenfrost_effect

quote:
The Leidenfrost effect is a phenomenon in which a liquid, in near contact with a mass significantly hotter than its boiling point, produces an insulating vapor layer which keeps that liquid from boiling rapidly. This is most commonly seen when cooking; one sprinkles drops of water in a skillet to gauge its temperature—if the skillet's temperature is at or above the Leidenfrost point, the water skitters across the metal and takes longer to evaporate than it would in a skillet that is hot, but at a temperature below the Leidenfrost point. It has also been used in some dangerous demonstrations, such as dipping a wet finger in molten lead and blowing out a mouthful of liquid nitrogen, both enacted without injury to the demonstrator. There have been claims that the effect is also involved when walking on fire, but this contention remains controversial. The effect is also responsible for the ability of liquid nitrogen to skitter across lab floors, collecting dust in the process.

George

[peterjsw]

Hello guys.
I'm a photographer based in London. For a forthcoming project I plan to use liquid nitrogen for a series of experiments. I was wondering whether anyone could offer some advise on where to purhase it. I plan to dip objects into the liquid and subsequently shatter them. Any advise would be appreciated.

Kinds
pete

[Karen W.]

Isn't liquid nitrogen extremely dangerous in that form.. wouldn't you be risking your life playing with that...or do I have the wrong chemical??Can't you blow yourself from here to kingdom come with that stuff?

Karen

[peterjsw]

Apparently so. But i've been informed that liquid nitrogen is what I need. The purpose is to freeze books and consequently shatter them. Do you have any alternatives?

pete

[Karen W.]

Not me, I am the least scientific minded person you will meet! I just read that  and my mouth dropped open that you would even want to try to use the stuff.. Isn,t it very unstable? Jeesh everything I have ever heard points to it being extremely dangerous, even a drop of the stuff!, That may be all Hype, but I don't know! Just make sure you are real careful!

Karen

[lightarrow]

Hello Karen!

Yes, you are right, liquid nitrogen is very dangerous, not because of its chemical properties, but because of its temperature (less than -196°C). In the same way as a book or a piece of gum becomes as fragile as glass, your flesh becomes too, and after that, if that part of your body doesn't shatter, those cells are dead forever.

You should wear a very thick special suite, liquid proof, heat insulating and that doesn't become brittle at those temperatures.

[another_someone]

quote:Originally posted by lightarrow
Hello Karen!

Yes, you are right, liquid nitrogen is very dangerous, not because of its chemical properties, but because of its temperature (less than -196°C). In the same way as a book or a piece of gum becomes as fragile as glass, your flesh becomes too, and after that, if that part of your body doesn't shatter, those cells are dead forever.

You should wear a very thick special suite, liquid proof, heat insulating and that doesn't become brittle at those temperatures.

It is not just the low temperature that can cause problems with liquid nitrogen, but also as liquid nitrogen evaporates it will displace the air in the room and cause you to suffocate (this is true of any gas, whether nitrogen or otherwise – and dry ice is theoretically even more dangerous than dry ice, since the evaporating CO2 is actually toxic, whereas nitrogen is not).

As for the risk of freezing your body, it is no different to the risk of playing with fire, and setting light to yourself.  There is a risk, but not exceptionally so – the major issue is just make sure you have good ventilation and a good inflow of fresh air.

I would have thought that many colleges would know where to get hold of such supplies = maybe ask them who their suppliers are.  I would be surprised if it is in any way a controlled substance.

George

[Karen W.]

IS Liquid Nitrogen related in any way or some form of nitro-glycerin, or is Nitro-glycerin a form of liquid nitrogen? Did I confuse the question or clarify it?

Karen

[Gaia]

quote:Originally posted by another_someone

It is not just the low temperature that can cause problems with liquid nitrogen, but also as liquid nitrogen evaporates it will displace the air in the room and cause you to suffocate (this is true of any gas, whether nitrogen or otherwise – and dry ice is theoretically even more dangerous than dry ice, since the evaporating CO2 is actually toxic, whereas nitrogen is not).

George

I think this should read: and dry ice is theoretically even more dangerous than liquid nitrogen

Gaia  xxx