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What is a photon composed of?
« on: 18/11/2013 10:37:35 »
Hi.

It is true that the photon is composed of a proton and an electron?

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Re: photon
« Reply #1 on: 18/11/2013 16:22:14 »
Quote from: jaiii on 18/11/2013 10:37:35
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It is true that the photon is composed of a proton and an electron?

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No.
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Re: photon
« Reply #2 on: 18/11/2013 16:28:14 »
Quote from: jaiii on 18/11/2013 10:37:35
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It is true that the photon is composed of a proton and an electron?

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That's a hydrogen, not a photon.
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Re: photon
« Reply #3 on: 21/11/2013 10:52:28 »
It is true that a Hydrogen atom can emit or absorb a photon.
But the Hydrogen atom has a proton and an electron both before & after the photon interaction.
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Re: What is a photon composed of?
« Reply #4 on: 21/11/2013 16:46:39 »
A photon of sufficiently high energy can transform into a an electron/positron pair of particles perhaps that is what Jaiii was confusing it with
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Re: What is a photon composed of?
« Reply #5 on: 21/11/2013 19:09:12 »
My answer is influenced by my own "new theory", but I don't think it contradicts standard theory.
 
A photon is a transverse wave in the aether. It propagates thru the aether in the manner of an acoustic shear wave in a solid medium. It has particle-like properties because particles are composed of photons, bound together by as yet undiscovered forces. The mass of a particle is the combined mass-energy of the photons that make up the particle. If you have photons with the right amount of mass-energy, under the right circumstances, they can combine to form an electron-positron pair. Perhaps "right circumstances" involves a Higgs boson, which acts like a catalyst, converting the radiant energy of photons to captive energy of a particle.
 
A proton has about 2000 times the mass-energy of an electron, so creating a proton-electron pair (a hydrogen atom) out of one or more photons is much more difficult than creating an electron-positron pair. I don't think anyone has yet created a proton directly from photons.
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Re: What is a photon composed of?
« Reply #6 on: 21/11/2013 19:57:25 »
You Don't think contradicts standard theory !, "A photon is a transverse wave in the aether" nothing could be more heretical we are not allowed to use the ae word any more.
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Re: What is a photon composed of?
« Reply #7 on: 21/11/2013 20:38:48 »
A photon, (according to me:) is a observer dependent excitation in a 'field', the excitation 'propagating' at 'c'. You can also see it as a observer, and time dependent, excitation existing all over, with its probability of existing at any given point defined by 'c'. Just don't ask me what a field is..
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Re: What is a photon composed of?
« Reply #8 on: 22/11/2013 05:03:56 »
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.. we are not allowed to use the ae word any more.
By "ae" word I assume you mean aether? For a moment I thought you meant Albert Einstein. Strange coicidence, huh?  ;D
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Re: What is a photon composed of?
« Reply #9 on: 22/11/2013 05:58:04 »
Quote from: Phractality
My answer is influenced by my own "new theory", but I don't think it contradicts standard theory.
I’m curious. If this is a “new theory” then didn’t you list it in the New Theory forum?

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A photon is a transverse wave in the aether.
That’s a contraction in terms. A particle cannot be a wave and a wave cannot be a particle. Therefore a photon cannot be a “transverse wave in the aether.” Especially since there is no such thing as an aether in “standard theory” which is the subject matter of this forum.

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It propagates thru the aether in the manner of an acoustic shear wave in a solid medium. It has particle-like properties because particles are composed of photons, bound together by as yet undiscovered forces.
Particles are not composed of forces and there are no reasons to suspect that other forces exist. This is another reason this belongs in the “new theory” forum.
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