[profound (OP)]

It is universally accepted that heavy metals above certain levels in the human body are harmful.

This is true until a commercial product which makes tons of money for a company is involved.

The company by a process of insidious corruption changes the goal posts so that previous levels of safety do not apply.This is especially true of pharmaceutical companies who have spend $2.4 billion bribing 500 odd senators from 1996 to 2004.

Heavy metals on a fresh vaccine sample was done and the results are shocking:-

Read here about it:-

"Mercury tests conducted on vaccines at the Natural News Forensic Food Lab have revealed a shockingly high level of toxic mercury in an influenza vaccine (flu shot) made by GlaxoSmithKline (lot #9H2GX). Tests conducted via ICP-MS document mercury in the Flulaval vaccine at a shocking 51 parts per million, or over 25,000 times higher than the maximum contaminant level of inorganic mercury in drinking water set by the EPA.(1)

The tests were conducted via ICP-MS using a 4-point mercury calibration curve for accuracy. Even then, the extremely high level of mercury found in this flu shot was higher than anything we've ever tested, including tuna and ocean fish which are known for high mercury contamination".

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/045418_flu_shots_influenza_vaccines_mercury.html#ixzz33YXqLLvH


http://www.naturalnews.com/045418_flu_shots_influenza_vaccines_mercury.html

[alancalverd]

The level would be "shockingly high" if people drank flu vaccine. But most of us don't.

The level of mercury in a jar of mercury is 1,000,000 parts per million - zillions of times higher than the permitted level in drinking water. So what?

[profound (OP)]

The level would be "shockingly high" if people drank flu vaccine. But most of us don't.

The level of mercury in a jar of mercury is 1,000,000 parts per million - zillions of times higher than the permitted level in drinking water. So what?

It is injected which is worse.

[RD]

Tests conducted via ICP-MS document mercury in the Flulaval vaccine at a shocking 51 parts per million, or over 25,000 times higher than the maximum contaminant level of inorganic mercury in drinking water set by the EPA.(1)

People are supposed to drink about 2.5 litres of water per day. The volume of a vaccination is about 0.5cc. So if what you've said above is true, that vaccination delivers a one-off dose of mercury equivalent to 5 days drinking water with the maximum permissible amount of mercury.

[ You will receive 5x that one-off dose of mercury annually from the fillings in your teeth ].

Bear in mind the mercury is included for a purpose : it stops bacteria growing in the vaccine, which could cause serious illness / death if injected. 

Learn more: .... naturalnews.com

Learn more :

David Gorski of ScienceBlogs called the site "one of the most wretched hives of scum and quackery on the Internet," and the most "blatant purveyor of the worst kind of quackery and paranoid anti-physician and anti-medicine conspiracy theories anywhere on the Internet". Peter Bowditch of the website Ratbags, and Jeff McMahon writing for Forbes commented about the site. Steven Novella of NeuroLogica Blog called NaturalNews "a crank alt med site that promotes every sort of medical nonsense imaginable. If it is unscientific, antiscientific, conspiracy-mongering, or downright silly, Mike Adams appears to be all for it – whatever sells the "natural" products he hawks on his site."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaturalNews#Reception

I've just had a look NaturalNews and noticed it sells a single aromatherapy candle for $74.95 , ( reduced from $100). [Item Number: 89502800233]. Allegedly it's effective for treating "plague" and has a "Health Forming Aroma", whatever that means.

[profound (OP)]

It says the vaccine was not tested for safety.Explain that.

[RD]

It says the vaccine was not tested for safety.Explain that.

Who or what is the "it" you are referring to ?

The epidemiological evidence is against the mercury compound used in some vaccines (Thimerosal ) being the cause of Autism : reduced use of Thimerosal since 2001 has not produced a reduction in the incidence of Autism ...

Since 2001, no new vaccine licensed by FDA for use in children has contained thimerosal as a preservative and all vaccines routinely recommended by CDC for children younger than 6 years of age have been thimerosal-free, or contain only trace amounts of thimerosal, except for some formulations of influenza vaccine. Unfortunately, reductions in the numbers of children identified with autism have not been observed indicating that the cause of autism is not related to a single exposure such as thimerosal.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/thimerosal.htm


You should look at sources of information other than "NaturalNews" ...

NaturalNews (formerly Newstarget) is a website operated by Mike Adams. It is dedicated to alternative medicine and various conspiracy theories, such as "chemtrails", the alleged dangers of fluoride in drinking water, (as well as those of monosodium glutamate and aspartame) and alleged health problems caused by "toxic" ingredients in vaccines, including the now-discredited link to autism.

It features guest authors such as anti-vaccinationist Joseph Mercola, and anti-vaccinationist and conspiracy theorist Jon Rappoport, and has featured interviews with Russell Blaylock, Sandor Katz, and others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaturalNews

Less vaccination = more illness = more money for quack "medicine".

Mike Adams' NaturalNews site throws copious amounts of "mud" at the opposition with one hand, and offers suckers readers expensive unproven quack remedies with the other hand : it's transparent what he's engaged in, (there's nothing altruistic about his actions).

That the average human life-span has more than doubled over the last two centuries, corresponding with increasing amounts of childhood vaccination over that period , illustrates that Mike and his anti-medicine team are incorrect ...

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[profound (OP)]

It says the vaccine was not tested for safety.Explain that.

Who or what is the "it" you are referring to ?

The epidemiological evidence is against the mercury compound used in some vaccines (Thimerosal ) being the cause of Autism : reduced use of Thimerosal since 2001 has not produced a reduction in the incidence of Autism ...


That the average human life-span has more than doubled over the last two centuries, corresponding with increasing amounts of childhood vaccination over that period , illustrates that Mike and his anti-medicine team are incorrect ...

Fluoride is bad for you :-

A newly published study in Harvard’s The Lancet weighs in on the toxins causing autism and ADHD (attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder). Researchers from the Harvard School of Public Health (HSPH) and the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai (ISMMS) say that along with these numerous environmental toxins, fluoridated water is adding to the higher incident of both cognitive and behavioral disorders.

Harvard had already published a study in 2006 that pointed to fluoride as a ‘developmental neurotoxicant’, and this newer study looks to over 27 additional investigations into the matter via meta analysis. In the previous study, it was already established that fluoride consumption lowered children’s IQ scores. The left-over from industry, passed off as ‘medicine,’ obstructs brain development, and can cause a full spectrum of serious health issues – from autism to dyslexia, ADHD, ADD, and more.

The study calls the effects from this chemical a ‘silent epidemic’ that mainstream media and many scientific papers have ignored.



http://www.thelancet.com/journals/laneur/article/PIIS1474-4422%2813%2970278-3/abstract

Your attempts at discrediting Mike Adams in favor of corporatism are very very sad.


The graph you show is irrelevant.i mean you could link it to oil consumption or coca cola consumption or the sale of diapers and get the same result.Who you trying to fool.

IS the company you are defending not involved in $300 million bribery and corruption probe?
and you expect people to trust them?

They have also been fined 3 billion previously for medicine fraud .They even on a tv documentary
for shipping expired medicine stock on third world countries.And you expect people to trust them.


Here is more evidence of the ADMISSION that the vaccines are not tested for safety.

http://www.naturalnews.com/045434_influenza_vaccines_pregnant_women_mercury.html

and by the way thimerosal is present because it is in the ingredients list.

look at the vaccine label.


"To prove the presence of mercury in influenza vaccines, I'm going to show you four irrefutable pieces of evidence:

1) Photographs of a 2013 / 2014 influenza vaccine box admitting, in very small print, to the addition of mercury to the vaccine as a preservative.

2) Photographs of the influenza vaccine insert once again repeating the admission that the vaccine contains mercury.

3) A screen shot from the Centers for Disease Control website which admits that vaccines still contain the following ingredients: Aluminum, Antibiotics, Egg Protein, Formaldehyde, Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) and Thimerosal, a mercury-containing chemical compound.

4) Lab results from the Natural News Forensic Food Lab which confirmed almost precisely the same level of mercury claimed by the manufacturer (GlaxoSmithKline).

Before I show you the irrefutable evidence, there is some good news in all this testing. As part of this Natural News investigation, I tested several different vaccines, including an HPV vaccine. Mercury levels were extremely low in these other vaccines. Only the flu shot contained extremely high mercury levels. (More results will be released on other vaccines shortly...)

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/045434_influenza_vaccines_pregnant_women_mercury.html##ixzz33eKDXzvv


RD why are you trying to hoodwink people?

i suggest EVERYONE look at the manufacturers own admissions and ingredients lists from the screen captures instead of listening to RD

[RD]

The graph you show is irrelevant.i mean you could link it to oil consumption or coca cola consumption or the sale of diapers and get the same result.Who you trying to fool.

In the pre-vaccination era most people died before reaching adulthood because of infectious diseases.
They did not die in childhood because of Coca-Cola deficiency.

Fluoride is bad for you :-

And what has that non-sequitur  got to do with the title of this thread ?.

BTW in case you didn't notice,  Less fluoridation =>  more tooth-decay => more people with toothache => a larger market for Mr Adams to sell his quack remedies for toothache.

https://www.google.com/search?q=tooth+pain+site%3Awww.naturalnews.com

Your attempts at discrediting Mike Adams in favor of corporatism are very very sad.

Mike Adams's "Natural News" is part of a corporation , (  see "inc" ).

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http://www.naturalnews.com/terms.html

What differentiates Mike Adams's corporation from other corporations selling health-care products ?, apart from Mike's products generally not having been proven to be safe and effective.

[profound (OP)]

The graph you show is irrelevant.i mean you could link it to oil consumption or coca cola consumption or the sale of diapers and get the same result.Who you trying to fool.

In the pre-vaccination era most people died before reaching adulthood because of infectious diseases.
They did not die in childhood because of Coca-Cola deficiency.

Fluoride is bad for you :-

And what has that non-sequitur  got to do with the title of this thread ?.

BTW in case you didn't notice,  Less fluoridation =>  more tooth-decay => more people with toothache => a larger market for Mr Adams to sell his quack remedies for toothache.

https://www.google.com/search?q=tooth+pain+site%3Awww.naturalnews.com

Your attempts at discrediting Mike Adams in favor of corporatism are very very sad.

Mike Adams's "Natural News" is part of a corporation , (  see "inc" ).

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

http://www.naturalnews.com/terms.html

What differentiates Mike Adams's corporation from other corporations selling health-care products ?, apart from Mike's products generally not having been proven to be safe and effective.

 The death rate differentiates Mike Adam products.





What is the The death rate from Mike Adams products

and Your Big pharmas products?

and more bad news

(Reuters) – British drugmaker GlaxoSmithKline Plc <GSK.L> has agreed to pay $105 million (62.7 million pounds) to settle allegations by 44 U.S. states and the District of Columbia that it promoted its medicines for unapproved uses, several states attorneys general announced on Wednesday.

Glaxo was accused by the states of illegally marketing its big-selling asthma drug Advair for use by mild asthma sufferers and the antidepressants Paxil and Wellbutrin for use by children and teenagers without FDA approval. Several antidepressants have been associated with increased risk of suicide in younger patients.

“GlaxoSmithKline put its business interests ahead of what was best for vulnerable patients,” Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan said in a statement.

http://www.euronews.com/business-newswires/2535418-glaxosmithkline-in-105-million-settlement-with-us-states-over-marketing/

[alancalverd]

What is the The death rate from Mike Adams products

A good quack product won't have an attributable death rate because (a) it doesn't contain any active ingredient that isn't present in a normal diet and (b) the market is so small and dispersed that even if it killed 50% of its users, nobody would find the connection. On the downside, it won't cure or prevent anything.

A licensed pharmaceutical will have been properly tested to show that it does more good than harm when properly used. But if it is cheap and widely adopted, jealous or stupid people will take the good for granted and look for correlations of harm, however spurious.

If teenagers (other than psychiatric in-patients) are being prescribed antidepressants, there's something wrong with the society they live in, not the antidepressant. Given the absolute stranglehold of the FDA over all medical products, it's surprising that anyone with Glaxo's expertise got caught promoting stuff for unapproved use.  More surprising still is that any doctor or pharmacist would have prescribed any pharmaceutical for off-label use without ethical committee approval for a controlled trial, however good the marketing campaign, in such a litigious society. But Glaxo is a British company, so it would be no surprise if a US competitor assembled the case in order to promote their own product.   

[RD]

What is the The death rate from Mike Adams products ?

If they've never been tested nobody knows how beneficial or harmful they are.

Even if they sell inert substances , like homoeopathic remedies, (which are pure water), quacks can cause cause deaths indirectly by diverting people away from medicine which has been proven to be effective which could have saved the patient's life , see ... http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
http://whatstheharm.net/vaccinedenial.html
http://whatstheharm.net/


Here's the effects of vaccination  ...

but that success is put at risk by paranoid conspiracy theorists.

[profound (OP)]

What is the The death rate from Mike Adams products

A good quack product won't have an attributable death rate because (a) it doesn't contain any active ingredient that isn't present in a normal diet and (b) the market is so small and dispersed that even if it killed 50% of its users, nobody would find the connection. On the downside, it won't cure or prevent anything.

A licensed pharmaceutical will have been properly tested to show that it does more good than harm when properly used. But if it is cheap and widely adopted, jealous or stupid people will take the good for granted and look for correlations of harm, however spurious.

If teenagers (other than psychiatric in-patients) are being prescribed antidepressants, there's something wrong with the society they live in, not the antidepressant. Given the absolute stranglehold of the FDA over all medical products, it's surprising that anyone with Glaxo's expertise got caught promoting stuff for unapproved use.  More surprising still is that any doctor or pharmacist would have prescribed any pharmaceutical for off-label use without ethical committee approval for a controlled trial, however good the marketing campaign, in such a litigious society. But Glaxo is a British company, so it would be no surprise if a US competitor assembled the case in order to promote their own product.   

A good quack product won't have an attributable death rate because (a) it doesn't contain any active ingredient that isn't present in a normal diet and (b) the market is so small and dispersed that even if it killed 50% of its users, nobody would find the connection. ... SELF contradictory.


"But Glaxo is a British company, so it would be no surprise if a US competitor assembled the case in order to promote their own product"

what about pfizer.they have been exposed numerous times just like your darling.

People should read this and be informed.Don't be taken in by people who work for them and are trying to hoodwink you.

https://truthman30.wordpress.com/2014/04/08/gsk-corruption-and-criminality-has-been-going-on-for-decades/
 
“A Sunday Express investigation has found that nearly a third of the 181 experts who sit on the Medicines Control Agency (MCA) committees are linked to GlaxoSmithKline, Aventis Pasteur or Merck, Sharpe and Dohme.”–Sunday Express

“Currently, 37 members of the CSM have a total of 188 separate financial links with the pharmaceuticals industry, inc the vacc manufacturers, including 82 separate personal declared links. These include shares, fees, consultancies, research grants and non-executive directorships. Also further 106 non-personal declared links. Source: Neill Committee on Standards in Public Life). Vaccine companies directly linked to members of CSM through personal declared financial links include SmithKline Beecham (NB), Merck Sharpe Dohme (NB), Lilly Industries, Pfizer, Glaxo Wellcome (NB), Bayer, Proctor 7 Gamble, British Biotech, Medeva Pharma. Members with personal financial links with MMR manufacturers are Messrs Blenkinsopp, Dargie, Donaghy, Evans, Forfar, MacGowan, Smyth, Wilkie. (Source: Neill Committee on Standards in Public

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Oh my God..the poor little dears....they sure are being persecuted or is it prosecuted?...tut tut..


"UK drug company GlaxoSmithKline is facing a criminal investigation in Poland for allegedly bribing doctors, BBC Panorama has discovered.

Eleven doctors and a GSK regional manager have been charged over alleged corruption between 2010 and 2012.

An former sales rep said doctors were paid to promote GSK’s asthma drug Seretide.

The company said one employee had been disciplined and it was co-operating with investigations.

If the allegations are proved, GSK may have violated both the UK Bribery Act and the US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. It is illegal for companies based in either country to bribe government employees abroad.

‘Financial gains’

A former sales rep for GSK in the Polish region of Lodz, Jarek Wisniewski, said:.....



https://truthman30.wordpress.com/2014/04/14/gsk-now-faces-bribery-allegations-in-poland-bbc-panorama/

its never ending...look at the cartoons.


https://truthman30.wordpress.com/tag/corruption/

[yellowcat]

What heavy metals do you imagine are in vaccines?
Toxicity is dose dependent and the amount of ethylmercury present in a influenza vaccination  is not enough to be toxic.
You are getting all excited and worked up over nothing.
It is kink of sweet that you are gullible enough to believe that mike adams has anything but negative credibility, that is, anything he says is almost certainly wrong.