[alancalverd]

After all, it is obvious that EVERYONE is interested in speedy implementation

no, only yourself, however many psudonyms you may assume.  Certainly nobody else in this forum.

[alancalverd]

Quote from: alancalverd on 24/11/2015 23:53:09

    a large, clumsy and inefficient vehicle that is not compatible with other traffic

– and in this case what are you talking about? Surely it is obvious that it doesn’t and can’t apply to Urbamobile.

Well, it takes up twice as much road space as a Smart Fortwo and requires five times the engine capacity to drive it, according to your figures. Which makes it large, clumsy and inefficient compared with a car that has been in fullscale production and sold around the world for the last 15 years. They have now sold over 1,500,000 units, including a narrower version to meet Japanese tax rules (see my posting some time back).

The Fiat 500, Mini, and a dozen other small cars, all substantially outperform the urbamobile in about the same amount of road space, and have sold umpteen millions since the 1960s.

[John-H]

Posting under multiple names is against forum policy...

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Please only post as Hoggart from now on, or you may risk being banned.

My dear Watson!
I've also decided to scout out at leisure a little - and that's what I found out:
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A good thing there was not enough impudence (or stupidity) to write “Please only post as Holmes from now on, or you may risk being banned.”
It wouldn’t have been good then!
Sincerely yours, Sherlock Holmes!

[experimentor]

Is it possible to implement smoking cessation with the ongoing sale of tobacco?
Is it possible to take measures to reduce alcohol consumption without introducing of the “dry law”?
Is it possible to fight the spread of drugs without strict punishment, including introducing the death penalty, for drug addiction and distribution of drugs?

AND IS IT REALLY NECESSARY TO DO SOMETHING, AT LEAST?

After all, some say, in particular:

the fact that more young adults die from a voluntary, pleasurable and economically useful activity than anything else is, if anything, a sign of a mature civilisation. 

So far we have not heard any arguments from which it would follow that the introduction of the Urbamobile is impossible.
The law - does not prohibit. Physics - allows. Calculations - make it impossible to deny.
If the ground clearance is small, it will be difficult to drive...
No problem, - the ground clearance can be increased!
And in order to stop the enslavement by cars, it is not so difficult to tolerate some temporary inconveniences.
I do not understand the other thing, - where are at least those few thousand readers that has got acquainted with information about Urbamobile, but -
REMAIN SILENT?
THE PLANET EARTH – OUR COMMON HOME – DIES – “BURNS”, AND YOU ARE REFUSING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FIRE EXTINGUISHING, THINKING THAT DISTRIBUTION OF BUCKETS WITH WATER - IS SOMEONE’S “BUSINESS PROJECT”?
WAKE UP, PEOPLE!
BEFORE ALL IS NOT LOST!

[chiralSPO]

Is it possible to implement smoking cessation with the ongoing sale of tobacco?
Is it possible to take measures to reduce alcohol consumption without introducing of the “dry law”?
Is it possible to fight the spread of drugs without strict punishment, including introducing the death penalty, for drug addiction and distribution of drugs?

AND IS IT REALLY NECESSARY TO DO SOMETHING, AT LEAST?

After all, some say, in particular:

the fact that more young adults die from a voluntary, pleasurable and economically useful activity than anything else is, if anything, a sign of a mature civilisation. 

So far we have not heard any arguments from which it would follow that the introduction of the Urbamobile is impossible.
The law - does not prohibit. Physics - allows. Calculations - make it impossible to deny.
If the ground clearance is small, it will be difficult to drive...
No problem, - the ground clearance can be increased!
And in order to stop the enslavement by cars, it is not so difficult to tolerate some temporary inconveniences.
I do not understand the other thing, - where are at least those few thousand readers that has got acquainted with information about Urbamobile, but -
REMAIN SILENT?
THE PLANET EARTH – OUR COMMON HOME – DIES – “BURNS”, AND YOU ARE REFUSING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FIRE EXTINGUISHING, THINKING THAT DISTRIBUTION OF BUCKETS WITH WATER - IS SOMEONE’S “BUSINESS PROJECT”?
WAKE UP, PEOPLE!
BEFORE ALL IS NOT LOST!

I don't think anyone here is saying that it would be impossible to manufacture and use a vehicle as described above. The consensus, however, appears to be that there has not been any evidence presented to show that it would be significantly better (or even as good as) currently employed technologies...

[Smasher]

In case you actually can build it I wish you success. But friend it will take a while until the common class society will be receptive to drive a top-hat like car!

[alancalverd]

Is it possible to implement smoking cessation with the ongoing sale of tobacco?
Is it possible to take measures to reduce alcohol consumption without introducing of the “dry law”?
Is it possible to fight the spread of drugs without strict punishment, including introducing the death penalty, for drug addiction and distribution of drugs?

All these have been tried and failed. Fact is that the law is incapable of preventing a fit, healthy, sane adult from killing himself by any means he wishes. It does, however, prevent anyone from helping a terminally sick patient from ending his life in a dignified manner and at a time of his own choosing.

But that is a matter for a different forum.

[John-H]

Is it possible to implement smoking cessation with the ongoing sale of tobacco?
Is it possible to take measures to reduce alcohol consumption without introducing of the “dry law”?
Is it possible to fight the spread of drugs without strict punishment, including introducing the death penalty, for drug addiction and distribution of drugs?

All these have been tried and failed. Fact is that the law is incapable of preventing a fit, healthy, sane adult from killing himself by any means he wishes. It does, however, prevent anyone from helping a terminally sick patient from ending his life in a dignified manner and at a time of his own choosing.

But that is a matter for a different forum.

Thank you that you are trying to understand the true meaning and idea of Urbamobile and the Urbamobile Transportation System.
It is a pity, however, that many people can not realize the above mentioned understanding properly.
Indeed, Urbamobile can and should drastically improve people's lives.
And to do that we have all the technological capacities available now.
At the same time – discussing the idea of Urbamobile – we should not analyze the extreme assumptions or emotional manifestations,
which are not in reality the necessary conditions for introduction and using of Urbamobile.

[alancalverd]

Urbamobile can and should drastically improve people's lives.

Please explain how buying (renting? hiring?) a bigger, thirstier, aerodynamically unstable car that stops and starts when it wants to rather than when I want it to, is going to improve my life. Or anyone else's.   

[John-H]

« Reply #68 on: 05/12/2015 15:08:23 »
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Quote from: John-H on 05/12/2015 14:23:24
Urbamobile can and should drastically improve people's lives.
Please explain how buying (renting? hiring?) a bigger, thirstier, aerodynamically unstable car that stops and starts when it wants to rather than when I want it to, is going to improve my life. Or anyone else's.

“I have the advantage of knowing your habits, my dear Watson,” -
«a bigger, thirstier, aerodynamically unstable car that stops and starts when it wants to rather than when I want it to» - THAT IS a MODERN CAR IS, - of course can not «going to improve my life. Or anyone else's.»
Automobile (a car) - is a deadlock of transportation industry.
In fact, a car - is the same thing as an individual carriage or wagon, whose power (speed) and comfort (tonnage) is no sense to increase.
If you want not to waste time and want to feel comfortable in modern conditions, you need quite another.
You need to optimize using of space and computing capacity through automation and systematization.
But automobile (a car) is not intended for solving such tasks at all.
Therefore, a car may and must to be replaced on Urbamobile, - that is opposite intended for optimizing usage of space and computing capacity through automation and systematization.
That is why:
«Urbamobile can and should drastically improve people's lives.»

[alancalverd]

I give up. Your rhetoric is now completely incomprehensible and you have not shown how your proposed device can solve any actual problem that has not already been solved by Fiat, Mercedes, Daihatsu, G-Wizz, Messerschmitt,.....

[John-H]

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I give up. Your rhetoric is now completely incomprehensible and you have not shown how your proposed device can solve any actual problem that has not already been solved by Fiat, Mercedes, Daihatsu, G-Wizz, Messerschmitt,.....

«I give up.» - it is about yourself, obviously? Do not get excited! And it is not necessary to “give up” – Urbamobile is not an enemy!
«Your rhetoric is now completely incomprehensible» - whom do you mean in that case?
«you have not shown how your proposed device can solve any actual problem that has not already been solved by Fiat, Mercedes, Daihatsu, G-Wizz, Messerschmitt,.....» - and what do you mean saying so?
I once again urge all who care about our future, - carefully read the information on urbamobile.com.
And, please, try to understand, how important that information is.
And, at least, start thinking and not stay silent!

[VIC]

I don't think anyone here is saying that it would be impossible to manufacture and use a vehicle as described above. The consensus, however, appears to be that there has not been any evidence presented to show that it would be significantly better (or even as good as) currently employed technologies...

And I think that neither you, nor your friends and colleagues who attribute to Urbamobile nonexistent shortcomings and completely ignore the available unique advantages of Urbamobile, nor many other readers of this forum have yet found time to get acquainted with the information about Urbamobile on urbamobile.com.
Or do you really think that at least even this:

is not the evidence that all those little cars of type “mini”, your colleague likes to extol, are in no way comparable with Urbamobile?

Or do you really think that at least even this:

is not the evidence that there are no – even hugely expensive – modern cars that are in any way comparable with Urbamobile?

Or do you really think that at least even this:

is not the evidence that Urbamobile is really the uncontested choice?

Also have a look at urbamobile.com, on indiegogo.com/projects/urbamobile-replaces-the-car--2#!
Stop talking nonsense “just to keep the conversation alive”, for example:
- about the “tons of CO2”, which during the manufacturing process of Urbamobile in reality could not be emitted in bigger quantities than during the manufacturing process of those little cars of type “mini”, not to mention the other cars;
- about some incredible “space on the road”, which in reality is less needed for Urbamobile than for those little cars of type “mini”, not to mention the other cars;
- about some “enormous aerodynamic drag”, which reduction for Urbamobile is very easy, and, in fact, even for the proposed model of Urbamobile it is much smaller than it is counted by those that don’t know how to count properly;
- about some supposedly obstructive to anything and everything, but in reality – only proposed for consideration as a possible option - a “small ground clearance” of 0.1 m, the size of which for Urbamobile – is an absolutely nonessential conditionality;
- about some supposedly “inextricable” difficulties with the operation of Urbamobile on initial stages of implementation, along with cars,
although in reality -
THERE IS NOT ONE USEFUL QUALITY AVAILABLE FOR THE CAR THAT IS NOT EVEN MORE AVAILABLE FOR URBAMOBILE!
but - for those who after all will got acquainted with the information on urbamobile.com or at least on indiegogo.com/projects/urbamobile-replaces-the-car--2#   –
it must be absolutely clear, also that –
CAR, ANY OTHER TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND ANY OTHER MODERN TRANSPORT TECHNOLOGIES, ARE IN ANY WAY COMPARABLE TO THE UNIQUE ADVANTAGES PROVIDED BY URBAMOBILE AND URBAMOBILE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM!