[demografx]

Just got my xan-pro tablets.  The packaging was a bit shady, just a bubble wrap envelope lol.  Will take a pill just for kicks to see how it rolls on me.  Then when I have no commitments, I will try it along w/ an orgasm shortly after.  Fingers crossed =D. Also hope it doesn't fk me up LOL.

silverandcol, CAREFUL, please!

[demografx]

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[Vincent M]

Haven't checked back here much since I've been mostly on the new forum. Just read through the last like 8 pages and this niacin thing sounds pretty interesting. I'll add it to the list of things I need to try. Combating POIS is certainly worth risking my liver function.

I've been taking thyroid hormone for almost a month now and it's stopped my eye-burning, but caused some facial irritation that I find unacceptable. Besides that it's done nothing. The dose I'm on is still very low so I'll wait and see once the dose is raised by the doc.

[jivetalk]

Just got my xan-pro tablets.  The packaging was a bit shady, just a bubble wrap envelope lol.  Will take a pill just for kicks to see how it rolls on me.  Then when I have no commitments, I will try it along w/ an orgasm shortly after.  Fingers crossed =D. Also hope it doesn't fk me up LOL.

silverandcol, CAREFUL, please! I wouldn't take it!!!

Hey Demo - Is that because Silverandcol noted that the packaging was a bit dodgy? - If I'm correct, Silverandcol would have purchased these Xan-Pro tablets from Anti-aging system, Xan-Pro which seem pretty legit. I was about to purchase some myself. In fact, I think I might if they deliver to Australia.

The Niacin seems to be giving me a Caffeine Like effect, where it is difficult for me to sleep after taking a high dose earlier in the day.


OMG: Dosage from Website:
As an anti-aging memory support, take one or two 150mg tablets three times a day. You may take up to a maximum of 12 tablets (1800mg total) prior to a workout or exercise.

1800mg!!!!!!!!! That should be enough to determine if it works for POIS or not :-)

[daveman]

I think we'll find that it's NOT the dose that's as important, as it is the histamine threshold level, which increases with regular dosage.

The dose taken should be greater than the histamine threshold. So if that threshold is low, a lower dose should be as effective as a high dose where the histamine threshold has been raised by daily consumption.

[victor.kons]

I think we'll find that it's NOT the dose that's as important, as it is the histamine threshold level, which increases with regular dosage.

The dose taken should be greater than the histamine threshold. So if that threshold is low, a lower dose should be as effective as a high dose where the histamine threshold has been raised by daily consumption.

I fully agree with this statement. The dose higher than needed has the same effect as optimal dose, e.g. you can't get 110% relief from POIS, 100% is maximum .

Victor

[Starsky]

Victor, dont you get some POIS from sexual arousal?

[demografx]

Hey Demo - Is that [warning] because Silverandcol noted that the packaging was a bit dodgy? - If I'm correct, Silverandcol would have purchased these Xan-Pro tablets from Anti-aging system, Xan-Pro which seem pretty legit. I was about to purchase some myself. In fact, I think I might if they deliver to Australia.

JT, maybe I was too quick to "judge a book by its cover" ! So I toned down my warning. []

[demografx]

Combating POIS is certainly worth risking my liver function.

VM, no need to take risks like that!

Just monitor liver function like I do (see my email above from my GP).

[demografx]

You can't get 110% relief from POIS, 100% is maximum .

Very good, Victor!  [] [] []

[victor.kons]

Victor, dont you get some POIS from sexual arousal?

I do, but its very short term, less than hour I think.

Victor

[victor.kons]

You can't get 110% relief from POIS, 100% is maximum .

Very good, Victor!  [] [] []

I was kinda joking, but only slightly, higher doses of XN don't make me feel better. But changing lifestyle do make me feel much better.

Victor

[silverandcol]

Just got my xan-pro tablets.  The packaging was a bit shady, just a bubble wrap envelope lol.  Will take a pill just for kicks to see how it rolls on me.  Then when I have no commitments, I will try it along w/ an orgasm shortly after.  Fingers crossed =D. Also hope it doesn't fk me up LOL.

silverandcol, CAREFUL, please!

Haha, no worries I am still alive.  After opening the package the actual container seems decently legit.  Its sealed outside and then on more right over the top.  I haven't tested them yet so I don't know if they will make me flush or what not.  Also it is made in like Great Britain lol.

[CertainlyPOIS]

Just got my xan-pro tablets.  The packaging was a bit shady, just a bubble wrap envelope lol.  Will take a pill just for kicks to see how it rolls on me.  Then when I have no commitments, I will try it along w/ an orgasm shortly after.  Fingers crossed =D. Also hope it doesn't fk me up LOL.

silverandcol, CAREFUL, please!

Haha, no worries I am still alive.  After opening the package the actual container seems decently legit.  Its sealed outside and then on more right over the top.  I haven't tested them yet so I don't know if they will make me flush or what not.  Also it is made in like Great Britain lol.

I have the ones from antiaging and have used so you should be fine. They are legit but you have to pay for that legitness.
to get flush use it without food

[jivetalk]

Just got my xan-pro tablets.  The packaging was a bit shady, just a bubble wrap envelope lol.  Will take a pill just for kicks to see how it rolls on me.  Then when I have no commitments, I will try it along w/ an orgasm shortly after.  Fingers crossed =D. Also hope it doesn't fk me up LOL.

silverandcol, CAREFUL, please!

Haha, no worries I am still alive.  After opening the package the actual container seems decently legit.  Its sealed outside and then on more right over the top.  I haven't tested them yet so I don't know if they will make me flush or what not.  Also it is made in like Great Britain lol.

I have the ones from antiaging and have used so you should be fine. They are legit but you have to pay for that legitness.
to get flush use it without food

CCconfucius, Have you tried the XN for POIS as yet?

[CertainlyPOIS]

Just got my xan-pro tablets.  The packaging was a bit shady, just a bubble wrap envelope lol.  Will take a pill just for kicks to see how it rolls on me.  Then when I have no commitments, I will try it along w/ an orgasm shortly after.  Fingers crossed =D. Also hope it doesn't fk me up LOL.

silverandcol, CAREFUL, please!

Haha, no worries I am still alive.  After opening the package the actual container seems decently legit.  Its sealed outside and then on more right over the top.  I haven't tested them yet so I don't know if they will make me flush or what not.  Also it is made in like Great Britain lol.

I have the ones from antiaging and have used so you should be fine. They are legit but you have to pay for that legitness.
to get flush use it without food

CCconfucius, Have you tried the XN for POIS as yet?

no not yet, rarely heal.

[jivetalk]

Niacin Pills Report #3:

Dosage: 300 mg about 60 minutes prior to O (3 x 100mg Tablets)

Had another very intense O's last night, but took the dosage above. You know, one of the ones where its very very good, but you're thinking towards the end and afterwards 'Oh no, im going to paying for that for the next few days and possibly weeks!'.

Anyway..No POIS after O last night...... went to sleep and was able to sleep (maybe I'm getting used to the Niacin). However, woke up this morning VERY VERY Hot. I could also certainly feel more blood circulation running through me...I Had to kick the covers off....But....still..No POIS.
After getting up and very suprised I had no POIS and was feeling quite good. About 1/2 to 1 hour after being up and about, I could start to feel POIS slightly coming on. Based on my second Report, where I felt that somehow the Niacin 'Wore off' I decided to take another 100mg tablet. 15 Minutes later, had the flush and the POIS receded....I think I have a plan..

2 Hours later - I Could feel me being on the verge of POIS again...so popped another pill. Same effect, the POIS receded. I did this five times today taking a total of 500mg, and I am sitting here prior to going to bed with very little signs of POIS. I would say throughout the day I had around 10% POIS, which is a HUGE difference for me - But that could just be because I was Soooooo concious of it.

I can't get my hands on any Slow release niacin, but that is effectively what I have done today - 500mg in Slow Release Form.

Notes:
1. I don't think it is actually the FLUSH that is curing the POIS symptoms. The Flush itself only lasts about 5 minutes at the most for me, actually feels quite pleasant - not too strong. However it is well and truly gone by the time the O occurs. As Victor has noted, he can O quite a number of times after XN, but I am sure that the FLUSH would have only lasted a very short time.
2. I do feel slighlty jittery on the Niacin, but nothing too serious.
3. As noted, I have had a little insomnia the past few times I have taken Niacin.
4. I can certainly feel increased blood floor/heart beats whilst on the Niacin
5. I would normally be in VERY heavy POIS right now, tired, lazy, very foggy brain. But I'm actually quite alert, right now, I would say maybe 5% POIS if Anything at all..
6. I also note, usually when I am in POIS  - and I Yawn - I feel VERY EMPTY. As if my Body is Lacking Something severely (vitamins or something) and need to sleep, not sure if anyone else gets that. I did yawn a few times today, but Nothing like a POIS yawn. Just more a normal standard Yawn - and kept going...
7. Going to keep experimenting to see if I can reproduce the results....
8. If this is a Placebo..I hope it continues  :-)

[victor.kons]

XN Tablets Report.

Took 600mg, seems way too much, have a very strong flush in 6 minutes. And lol, I have a lobster's face, its all red. Never had such a reaction even with 1ml XN injections, seems 600mg indeed way too much for me, probably no need in such a high dose.

In half an hour after O - feel tired, looks like the heart is down... Liver seems reacting too, not good...

In two hours after O - heart is okay, but I have unhealthy feeling at the location of liver.

Result - no POIS after 600mg in XN tablets, but have unhealthy feelings at the location of liver.

Victor

[horizon]

Since eating garlic all the time in POIS helps POIS but is completely impractical due to the death breath, I have been researching Garlic Injections.

I found this info..
http://www.webtrek.com/pipermail/sumo/2006-January/002317.html
http://yakyubaka.com/tag/garlic-injection/
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=949656#i

> Does someone know what these garlic injections are ?
> What are they supposed
> to do ? When can you take it ?

Actually you can get a "garlic" injection at medical
clinics in Japan but "garlic" is a misnomer.  It isn't
as if they liquify garlic and shoot it in your vein.

Basically it refers to a certain injection made up
with a variety of vitamins but mostly B compounds.  As
you know vitamin Bs are known to help get you recover
quickly when you feel you are exhausted (especially
Vitamin B1 is known to break down lactic acids in your
body and as most athletes know accumulation of lactic
acids slow them down physically).  I've been told by
those who had the injection that they did feel they
were getting warmer and even smelled "garlicky" in
their mouth (I wonder if some amount of garlic is
actually in it...)

Other than Vitamin Bs I don't know whatelse in these
but remember when you are in a pharmacy or even kiosks
at train stations, you must have seen quite a few
"energy" drinks sold there.  These are basically all
drinks with vitamin Bs and some caffein to get you
revitalized back again quickly or so they tell me.
Actually many in Japan cannot do without them  and
some do swear by them (my wife actually gets a stock
of her "alpha mini" bottles whenever she goes to Japan).

[silverandcol]

Ok for my xan-pro report, I messed up a little bit but it is okay.  So I orgasm-ed  first and then took the xan-pro pills right after it.  Then I had to work next day so I went to sleep in like 15 minutes even with the slight flushing coming on.  I didn't notice anything else because I was sleeping.  Next day was kinda sucky, I would say 85% POIS.  I fucked up a bit a work because of my inattentiveness and whatnot from POIS, making me regret I ever ejaculated at all.  Good thing my boss is cool.  So when I got home I decdided to go all the way and text the Xan-Pro properly.  Took one 150mg  xanthinol nicotate+42mg Niacin pill tablet of Xan-Pro.  I waited about 30ish minutes then did my business.  It was pretty interesting. It seemed the orgasm was less intense(maybe because it's the 2nd day of orgasm.)  Also I did not get the super strong rush of blood to my face when I usually orgasm.  It definitely felt like a different orgasm. 

Next morning I was able to get up at 3:30am even before my alarm went off.  I was not lethargy stricken and being nearly impossible to get out of bed.  It was quite a good feeling of not being 100% POIS smashed.  Throughout the day at work I felt a little POIS, not sure if placebo though.  I would say about 50% POIS, not fully 100% sharp.  It's sometimes hard to tell at work because if it does not stress me out or challenge me enough I can't tell how much POIS I have.  I will play some games real soon though to see how the POIS is really effecting me.

TLDR: Xan-Pro is looking decently effective at reducing POIS symptoms when taken before orgasm.  (maybe the after helped too, I need to properly test this.) =D