[observercenter]

Even if you only read the forum, it is important you register so that we can know who have POIS symptoms and so that we have more weight on the opinion !

Amijgoro, I am exactly on the same situation as you concerning the state of POIS : I am in a constant one POIS now 2 years. I just started to take pills to increase my level of dopamin (under the controle of doctors as alaways) since I found out my level was very low. It was one of the only standard that failed so much...

I  encourage all the silent readers - i was one of them during several months - to register and share their case. You´ll feel very good after doing it!!

[John21 (OP)]

Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer?
By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.

I have had PE as long as I can remember. Even the times in my life that I do not expericnce POIS I continued to have PE.

I am once again considering that POIS is caused by an inflammation of the the prostate (for whatever reason). I had tried Saw Palmetto in the past with no benefits but I am now taking a prostate formula called "Super Prostate". I have had one NE since I began this and did not experience any POIS. Also, I am speculating that it may have reduced my PE, time will tell. I say this because I have had no NEs after taking it for a couple of weeks. For anyone struggling with unwanted NEs you could try a prostate supplement.  The idea that POIS is caused by prostate inflammation sounds logical to me as anti-inflammatory foods reduce or eliminate my symptoms.

Here are the details of the supplement I am taking:

Extra Strength Super Prostate by Webber Naturals
Ingredients:
Saw Palmetto Extract (85-95%) 320mg
Pumpkin Oil 480mg
Zinc 15mg
Tomato Extract (6% lycopene) 5mg
Seleium 55mcg

I am normally taking the recommended dose at one per day. The night after I first started taking them I had an NE and for the next few days took two per day.  No POIS (without taking anti-inflammatory foods)!

Also of note: testosterone reduces inflammation.

http://fitlode.com/2011/08/04/the-anti-inflammatory-powers-of-testosterone/

[demografx]

Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger."

[reply about Nietzsche totally off topic to POIS...]
 

And your experience with POIS is...?

[demografx]

RD, you have had nothing but bad things to say about this thread.

Please leave us alone.

Or I will issue a formal ban warning to you, RD - - with full explanation to TNS.

Let's stop. You're a bright guy with better things to do than complain about "TNS' very own porn channel".

Posted/delivered to RD via PM.

= = = = = = = = = = = = = =  = = = = = =
NOW LET'S PLEASE MOVE ON, UP AND AWAY FROM SILLY DISTRACTIONS AND NEGATIVITY!

Many thanks all, for your fantastic support!

[demografx]

True but Nietzsche was also speaking with self-loathing...

kurtosis, relax. This poster (imposter) is a POIS thread hater from way back. Sadly we have to deal with all types. With friends like you, kurtosis, guys like him are completely manageable.

Someone else at TNS says if he had a touch of POIS - MAYBE he'd understand. I have my doubts.

Let's not give fools any more energy than they deserve. PM me anyone if you wish more info.

Best,
Demo

[demografx]

Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer?
By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.

I have had PE as long as I can remember. Even the times in my life that I do not expericnce POIS I continued to have PE.

I am once again considering that POIS is caused by an inflammation of the the prostate (for whatever reason). I had tried Saw Palmetto in the past with no benefits but I am now taking a prostate formula called "Super Prostate". I have had one NE since I began this and did not experience any POIS. Also, I am speculating that it may have reduced my PE, time will tell. I say this because I have had no NEs after taking it for a couple of weeks. Ior anyone struggling with unwanted NEs you could try a prostate supplement.  The idea that POIS is caused by prostate inflammation sounds logical to me as anti-inflammatory foods reduce or eliminate my symptoms.

Here are the details of the supplement I am taking:

Extra Strength Super Prostate by Webber Naturals
Ingredients:
Saw Palmetto Extract (85-95%) 320mg
Pumpkin Oil 480mg
Zinc 15mg
Tomato Extract (6% lycopene) 5mg
Seleium 55mcg

I am normally taking the recommended dose at one per day. The night after I first started taking them I had an NE and for the next few days took two per day.  No POIS (without taking anti-inflammatory foods)!

Also of note: testosterone reduces inflammation.

http://fitlode.com/2011/08/04/the-anti-inflammatory-powers-of-testosterone/

"Anti-inflammatory" and POIS are making more and more sense. Thanks, John!

[demografx]

Even if you only read the forum, it is important you register so that we can know who have POIS symptoms and so that we have more weight on the opinion !

Amijgoro, I am exactly on the same situation as you concerning the state of POIS : I am in a constant one POIS now 2 years. I just started to take pills to increase my level of dopamin (under the controle of doctors as alaways) since I found out my level was very low. It was one of the only standard that failed so much...

I  encourage all the silent readers - i was one of them during several months - to register and share their case. You´ll feel very good after doing it!!

To the silent readers: we greatly appreciate you. And you help our "stats" (hits) - and thus our popularity and appeal to more suffering POISers -  enormously...thank you!

Either way, silent readers (the majority of POIS thread) are WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME.


I agree with Observer. But if you CAN'T register, you are 105% welcome by us!!!

Best wishes,
Demo

[demografx]

Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger."

The statement "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." is nonsensical,
e.g. a non-fatal brain injury which rendered someone into a vegetative state would not make them stronger.

BTW Nietzsche suffered from dementia and was rather keen on narcotics.
Anyone with a with chronic illness promoting the ideas of this demented junkie is shooting themselves in the foot ...

The invalid is a parasite on society. In a certain state it is indecent to go on living. To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost ought to entail the profound contempt of society.”

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_invalid_is_a_parasite_on_society-in_a_certain/323161.html
 

Nietzsche was also speaking with self-loathing and contempt for his own dependent state. He said some sensible and clever things and some that were ridiculous and/or fascistic. If a lunatic makes a good point and it gives someone a useful perspective then that's seems fine to me.

Also, I'd dispute that a quotation needs to be logical, consistent and well-formed to be useful. When I read that quotation by Nietzsche I think about the possibility that my perspective has been changed in some beneficial way by suffering from POIS. I believe it has. I understand that a person's life can be interrupted or upset by something external that appears to resist every attempt to treat it and is not recognised by the medical community. That was a hard lesson to learn and it's given me many insights into the limitations of medical knowledge and sympathy for those I may have been too busy and too arrogant to care about.

A friend of mine is a psychologist and he makes a good argument that great human endeavour is driven by our reaction to trauma. He argues that any form of achievement (sport, intellectually, music etc.) represents a thousand battles (metaphorically) with the traumas stored in our primitive brains. So I can understand what Demo is getting at. He's done what he has in life in spite of POIS and is driven to help us on this forum because the trauma of the POIS experience drives him to improve things for others. If Nietzsche helps provide that perspective then so be it.

kurtosis, BEAUTIFUL reply. Expresses extremely well what we're exactly all about.

Thank you!

[demografx]

Some visitors have nothing intelligent to say about POIS, so they resort to nitpicking tangential matters. LOL. Kinda like ad hominems, but less clever : - )

[daveman]

Some visitors have nothing intelligent to say about POIS, so they resort to nitpicking tangential matters. LOL. Kinda like ad hominems, but less clever : - )

All this really is an expression of the difference here on this thread. Many other threads are more intent on proving who's right, who has the better catch phrase, showing how cult they are, arguing points that are pointless.

Here it's a serious group trying to resolve a life wrecking ailment. There is no place for troublemakers or egos, where we are just trying to get to the bottom of a real problem.

We have a delicate balance and have worked hard at maintaining it, with lives that become unraveled in an instant by some ignorant bully ([generically speaking] and whether they realize it or not).

Not to mention the fact that there is a good deal of traffic from real medical investigators recompiling information on thei little know illness. It behooves us to keep the chaff OUT.

[Stef]

Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger."

The statement "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." is nonsensical,
e.g. a non-fatal brain injury which rendered someone into a vegetative state would not make them stronger.

BTW Nietzsche suffered from dementia and was rather keen on narcotics.
Anyone with a with chronic illness promoting the ideas of this demented junkie is shooting themselves in the foot ...

The invalid is a parasite on society. In a certain state it is indecent to go on living. To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost ought to entail the profound contempt of society.”

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_invalid_is_a_parasite_on_society-in_a_certain/323161.html
 

Nietzsche was also speaking with self-loathing and contempt for his own dependent state. He said some sensible and clever things and some that were ridiculous and/or fascistic. If a lunatic makes a good point and it gives someone a useful perspective then that's seems fine to me.

Also, I'd dispute that a quotation needs to be logical, consistent and well-formed to be useful. When I read that quotation by Nietzsche I think about the possibility that my perspective has been changed in some beneficial way by suffering from POIS. I believe it has. I understand that a person's life can be interrupted or upset by something external that appears to resist every attempt to treat it and is not recognised by the medical community. That was a hard lesson to learn and it's given me many insights into the limitations of medical knowledge and sympathy for those I may have been too busy and too arrogant to care about.

A friend of mine is a psychologist and he makes a good argument that great human endeavour is driven by our reaction to trauma. He argues that any form of achievement (sport, intellectually, music etc.) represents a thousand battles (metaphorically) with the traumas stored in our primitive brains. So I can understand what Demo is getting at. He's done what he has in life in spite of POIS and is driven to help us on this forum because the trauma of the POIS experience drives him to improve things for others. If Nietzsche helps provide that perspective then so be it.

kurtosis, BEAUTIFUL reply. Expresses extremely well what we're exactly all about.

Thank you!

Kurtosis, you express yourself wonderfully!!!!  :-)

[demografx]

Some visitors have nothing intelligent to say about POIS, so they resort to nitpicking tangential matters. LOL. Kinda like ad hominems, but less clever : - )

All this really is an expression of the difference here on this thread. Many other threads are more intent on proving who's right, who has the better catch phrase, showing how cult they are, arguing points that are pointless.

Here it's a serious group trying to resolve a life wrecking ailment. There is no place for troublemakers or egos, where we are just trying to get to the bottom of a real problem.

We have a delicate balance and have worked hard at maintaining it, with lives that become unraveled in an instant by some ignorant bully ([generically speaking] and whether they realize it or not).

Not to mention the fact that there is a good deal of traffic from real medical investigators recompiling information on thei little know illness. It behooves us to keep the chaff OUT.

I'm framing this and putting above my fireplace.

THANK YOU, DAVEMAN!

[demografx]

And thank you, Stef, for that lovely POIS pill-sandwich graphic!

[demografx]

Have a good, safe Memorial Day!

[jferr]

Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer?
By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.

I have had PE as long as I can remember. Even the times in my life that I do not expericnce POIS I continued to have PE.

I am once again considering that POIS is caused by an inflammation of the the prostate (for whatever reason). I had tried Saw Palmetto in the past with no benefits but I am now taking a prostate formula called "Super Prostate". I have had one NE since I began this and did not experience any POIS. Also, I am speculating that it may have reduced my PE, time will tell. I say this because I have had no NEs after taking it for a couple of weeks. For anyone struggling with unwanted NEs you could try a prostate supplement.  The idea that POIS is caused by prostate inflammation sounds logical to me as anti-inflammatory foods reduce or eliminate my symptoms.

Here are the details of the supplement I am taking:

Extra Strength Super Prostate by Webber Naturals
Ingredients:
Saw Palmetto Extract (85-95%) 320mg
Pumpkin Oil 480mg
Zinc 15mg
Tomato Extract (6% lycopene) 5mg
Seleium 55mcg

I am normally taking the recommended dose at one per day. The night after I first started taking them I had an NE and for the next few days took two per day.  No POIS (without taking anti-inflammatory foods)!

Also of note: testosterone reduces inflammation.

http://fitlode.com/2011/08/04/the-anti-inflammatory-powers-of-testosterone/

John21,

The connection between prostate inflammation and POIS makes much sense to me. It seems that when I have groin discomfort after orgasm it also goes hand in hand with my POIS symptoms. When I have no gorin discomfort and no erection problems, and no weak urine stream problems I usually also have little POIS. Some of the supplements I have taken have helped a bit with this. Burning/Light sensitive eyes also goes hand in hand with these things for me.

This causes me to wonder how ejaculation could cause prostate inflammation. And, If so, How prostate inflammation could cause such debilitating mental symptoms. It really is mind blowing!

If anyone wants to weigh in I'd be happy to read it.

[John21 (OP)]

jferr,
I don't know what might be the cause if it is found to be prostate inflammation. Bacterial prostatis can cause flu-like symptoms, maybe our symptoms are the result of immune activity.

The idea that the prostate supplements might help with PE might be out the window as I had an NE last night. No POIS symptoms yet though, stay tuned.

[fidalgo]

I was reading you about prostate inflammation and I think in one thing. I´m sorry if is stupid question but I have to ask it. After my POIS started I became adiccted in prostitutes, because I only have sex the moments I could and because it´s very difficulty to have realationships with POIS. What I want to say is that all the hookers stay impressed for how far my ejaculation go. All the hookers say that they never had seen something like this before. I think this is may a cause of POIS. I don't know, maybe my urine canal are so thin and my body have to make a lot of effort to expel sperm. Or maybe is prostate inflammation.

Dou you have something like that? Have some women told you that you ejaculate too high, far, strong?

[demografx]

Re. above ad:
The "DONATE" ad links (above and below the sandwich) only work in your email. Therefore the fresh link appears *below* the ad if you wish to donate from here vs. email.
Thank you!
Demo and Daveman

[kurtosis]

Kurtosis, you express yourself wonderfully!!!!  :-)

Thank you Stef.

[Habibou]

Here is a very interesting graph with some majors comments regarding the dopamin levels after an O ->