[observercenter]

Dear all, can I ask? If Niacin is supposed to be taken an hour prior to an orgasm, how do you guys use it to prevent POIS caused by involuntary nocturnal emission?

As you can imagine, we canīt. But in my case, something very significative happens(viktor.kons and i think others have reported the same...) if i am POIS and i have another orgasm after taking niacin. A brief summary of what i am saying:

- I have a NE. I develop POIS symptoms.
- I wake up, with POIS symptoms (brain fog, dizzy head, poor cognitive functioning, bad digestion). Then i take my 200 mg niacin.
- Niacin improves my POIS symptoms. If i donīt have another ejac, my POIS symptoms return in several hours. But If, and only If, i have another orgasm(1-4 hours after i took the niacin), my POIS - The same cognitive symptoms that have improved, but not dissappeared, with the niacin i took- is completely wiped off in the very moment iīm having a ejac. Amazing, isnīt it??

I donīt know if this serves for everyone, but it is not the first time that some POIS sufferers have reported that an O. while in POIS wipes off its previous POIS symptoms.

[0002ppdnuos]

As you can imagine, we canīt. But in my case, something very significative happens(viktor.kons and i think others have reported the same...) if i am POIS and i have another orgasm after taking niacin. A brief summary of what i am saying:
- I have a NE. I develop POIS symptoms.
- I wake up, with POIS symptoms (brain fog, dizzy head, poor cognitive functioning, bad digestion). Then i take my 200 mg niacin.
- Niacin improves my POIS symptoms. If i donīt have another ejac, my POIS symptoms return in several hours. But If, and only If, i have another orgasm(1-4 hours after i took the niacin), my POIS - The same cognitive symptoms that have improved, but not dissappeared, with the niacin i took- is completely wiped off in the very moment iīm having a ejac. Amazing, isnīt it??
I donīt know if this serves for everyone, but it is not the first time that some POIS sufferers have reported that an O. while in POIS wipes off its previous POIS symptoms.

Observercenter, thanks for elaborating, I get it.
It's kind of creepy though.
What the hell is actually undergoing within our body~

[fidalgo]

I don't know if you guys tried rosemary tea but it helps for memory and relaxes me a bit.
Caution: Consult your doctor if you are pregnant, have high blood pressure or insomnia.

I wanted to bring up another point because i dont' know if it's been mentioned. Has there been any link with maybe taking certain antibiotics and this? The reason i bring it up and it could be just a coincidence but i remember maybe a month or so before feeling first mild symptoms of pois, i had a toothache and the side of face was swollen badly. They told me they had to give me antibiotics first(which i took for several days). I also did several teeth cleaning procedures at that time. When i tried to figure out several months later what was the only change in my life at that time, that was the only thing(didn't have teeth cleaning before and rarely took antibiotics in my life). I don't know it could be just a coincidence but i keep wondering maybe its not.

Edhawk, I also took antibiotics around the time I first got pois symptoms, and it has been mentioned here prior and a few others were the same, but unfortunately it does not seem to be the case with a significant number of people here. I was on tetracycline for acne  and I strongly suspect it played a role in my health problems. The thing is though it was in my teens around the time I first started having wet dreams, masterbating, so I cant say it definitely changed things because I did not have a decent history of non pois beforehand and I cant be specific on the exact timing of events (my mind was so fuzzy then).

I also made a threatment for acne. I taked for almost a year a strong medicene named roacutan (I was with 15-16 years).

My POIS start when I have 20 years, one day that the weather are very cold and I was not wearing property clothes. It was the day that I most take cold in my life. After that, I never be the same. But, before that, I already had small POIS (sensibility of light, I get tired and a less depressed, but after 1,2 hours I get normal). I donīt know, but I always think that, if I wasnīt take that cold, my POIS have never be occurred. But I sometimes think roacutan is the reason of my POIS...

[GDRTW]

I have always noticed that if I am on POIS and had another O within the first few days of it that the symptons aren't so bad as if it was my first.

[victor.kons]

Dear all, can I ask? If Niacin is supposed to be taken an hour prior to an orgasm, how do you guys use it to prevent POIS caused by involuntary nocturnal emission?

As you can imagine, we canīt. But in my case, something very significative happens(viktor.kons and i think others have reported the same...) if i am POIS and i have another orgasm after taking niacin. A brief summary of what i am saying:

- I have a NE. I develop POIS symptoms.
- I wake up, with POIS symptoms (brain fog, dizzy head, poor cognitive functioning, bad digestion). Then i take my 200 mg niacin.
- Niacin improves my POIS symptoms. If i donīt have another ejac, my POIS symptoms return in several hours. But If, and only If, i have another orgasm(1-4 hours after i took the niacin), my POIS - The same cognitive symptoms that have improved, but not dissappeared, with the niacin i took- is completely wiped off in the very moment iīm having a ejac. Amazing, isnīt it??

I donīt know if this serves for everyone, but it is not the first time that some POIS sufferers have reported that an O. while in POIS wipes off its previous POIS symptoms.

Yep, I confirm, that another Niacin-ed O while in POIS wipes off POIS symptoms for me. And this is damn strange thing. Though, I have only 2 episodes like this, I would like to check this few more times to be 100% sure that it is not some kind of Placebo.

Victor

[CertainlyPOIS]

I'll ask my doctor next Friday if we can order this test.  I'll ask about the urine test too while I'm at it.  Good suggestion CCc.

has any body ever done a semen culture to check for bacteria/viruses

nice.
I want to do it because i already know i react to my semen so if there is nothing in there then i guess it has to be a protein.
I am going to be doing a hbv test and hcv test today.

[RemovePois]

Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer?
By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.

[daveman]

Dear all, can I ask? If Niacin is supposed to be taken an hour prior to an orgasm, how do you guys use it to prevent POIS caused by involuntary nocturnal emission?

As you can imagine, we canīt. But in my case, something very significative happens(viktor.kons and i think others have reported the same...) if i am POIS and i have another orgasm after taking niacin. A brief summary of what i am saying:

- I have a NE. I develop POIS symptoms.
- I wake up, with POIS symptoms (brain fog, dizzy head, poor cognitive functioning, bad digestion). Then i take my 200 mg niacin.
- Niacin improves my POIS symptoms. If i donīt have another ejac, my POIS symptoms return in several hours. But If, and only If, i have another orgasm(1-4 hours after i took the niacin), my POIS - The same cognitive symptoms that have improved, but not dissappeared, with the niacin i took- is completely wiped off in the very moment iīm having a ejac. Amazing, isnīt it??

I donīt know if this serves for everyone, but it is not the first time that some POIS sufferers have reported that an O. while in POIS wipes off its previous POIS symptoms.

Yes, it's been mentioned before, but I've never had the nerve to try it. Without niacin, my second ejac in close proximity creates very sever POIS. Niacin works very well for me, but I still am afraid to try.

What is good about this is what it might mean medically. It's so very specific that it must be tied directly to the mechanism that causes POIS.

[fidalgo]

Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer?
By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.

Yes, premature ejaculations is because of POIS. I always have premature ejaculation whan my POIS are very bad. Initially I think that is because I stay too much time without ejaculation, but it is not. After I learn somethings about POIS and improve my symptoms, I can stay a long time without ejaculation (7 days) and I don't have premature ejaculation..

[nathan123]

Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer?
By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.

For me also same problem. I wil have o within a min. i dont know whether premature orgasm is a source for pois or it is a result of pois.Further my hard penis size max goes to 10cm. I know that as per me avg hard penis is 13cm to 18cm. Hence i am short of 5 cm. Is there any link between this and pois. Is anybody have this problem

[edhawk10]

For me it's same as daveman. If i go 2nd or 3rd day and have O again i'll have even more severe pois...so i just delay for as long as i can. Haven't tried Niacin yet.

Some have mentioned that they've had symptoms since they were in their teens and i honestly can say that i didn't have this problem at that time.

Interesting how some of you have found relief from immune boosters like garlic, vitamin c and so on. Some relief from allergy meds too. From reading so many pages there's quite a few who have had sinus issues, acne, dermatitis, stomach cramps, joint pain and so on. I've had all those as well. Our immune systems are so screwed up.






 

[amijgoro]

You dont know me yet but i definitely know you. i have been reading this forum for the past several months and i can tell you that without it i dont know where ide be right now. I am 19 years old and have been experiencing pois symptoms ever since i was around 12-13 (6th- 7th grade). Iv'e been suffering with this disease for as long as i can remember and its pretty much all i know. I went through school not knowing why iv'e been failing both academically and socially. I've been very lonely. over the past few years iv'e developed undying pois symptoms that 99% of the time doesn't go away and constantly fogs my head enabling me to talk to people, remember, understand, feel proper emotions and live a proper life like any human being should. I say 99% because there were two weeks that i remember when i had no symptoms at all. Those were the best weeks of my life which showed me that their is more to live and fight for. I live in israel where at the age of 18 I am forced by law to join the army. i delayed it as long as i could hoping and praying to find some sort of cure. I didn't find a cure but i did find this forum which has been strengthening me. As i mentioned earlier, i am 19 years old, and am now in the army pretty much suffering my way through it but knowing their are people out there like me. people who are fighting and making amazing progress. I want to say thank you for all the amazing work you all have been doing. I think the NORD research is a very important step in solving this thing and although i dont have much money ill try to scrummage something up and contribute as soon as i can.

[0002ppdnuos]

amijgoro, I just want to say that I feel like crying reading your post.
Why do we have to suffer from this kind of agony without a comprehensible reason?
Honestly, I'd rather not be born if I ever had a choice. Sorry for being pessimistic, but that's how I feel.

Be sure to read the 'POIS Compendium_Rev 6' in the following website: http://sites.google.com/site/poiswebsite/ [nofollow]
As a summary, nutrition is the key to relief to certain extends.

[demografx]

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[demografx]

0002pdnuos, Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." I usually find that true. Even with POIS.

[RD]

Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger."

The statement "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." is nonsensical, e.g. a non-fatal brain injury which rendered someone into a vegetative state would not make them stronger.BTW Nietzsche suffered from dementia and was rather keen on narcotics. Anyone with a with chronic illness promoting the ideas of this demented junkie is shooting themselves in the foot ...

“The invalid is a parasite on society. In a certain state it is indecent to go on living. To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost ought to entail the profound contempt of society.”

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_invalid_is_a_parasite_on_society-in_a_certain/323161.html
 

[kurtosis]

Dear all, can I ask? If Niacin is supposed to be taken an hour prior to an orgasm, how do you guys use it to prevent POIS caused by involuntary nocturnal emission?

As you can imagine, we canīt. But in my case, something very significative happens(viktor.kons and i think others have reported the same...) if i am POIS and i have another orgasm after taking niacin. A brief summary of what i am saying:

- I have a NE. I develop POIS symptoms.
- I wake up, with POIS symptoms (brain fog, dizzy head, poor cognitive functioning, bad digestion). Then i take my 200 mg niacin.
- Niacin improves my POIS symptoms. If i donīt have another ejac, my POIS symptoms return in several hours. But If, and only If, i have another orgasm(1-4 hours after i took the niacin), my POIS - The same cognitive symptoms that have improved, but not dissappeared, with the niacin i took- is completely wiped off in the very moment iīm having a ejac. Amazing, isnīt it??

I donīt know if this serves for everyone, but it is not the first time that some POIS sufferers have reported that an O. while in POIS wipes off its previous POIS symptoms.

Yes, it's been mentioned before, but I've never had the nerve to try it. Without niacin, my second ejac in close proximity creates very sever POIS. Niacin works very well for me, but I still am afraid to try.

What is good about this is what it might mean medically. It's so very specific that it must be tied directly to the mechanism that causes POIS.

A possibility is that each O triggers a chemical reaction which tries to balance itself. Due to some kind of enzymatic deficiency, which can be treated by mega doses of niacin, the reaction fails to achieve balance in POIS with low levels of neuro-chemicals which enable concentration and effort. (catecholamines for instance). With niacin levels increased, another O may trigger the balancing reaction which, this time, can proceed to a more stable position. Hence, the cognitive symptoms of POIS would appear to be wiped.
I've experienced something similar and I suspect that's what's going on.
I know more about the maths models (stuff like Sel'kov models) than I do about the biochemistry, unfortunately, so I'm always trying to plug gaps in my knowledge.

[observercenter]

Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger."

<sup>The statement "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." is nonsensical,
e.g. a non-fatal brain injury which rendered someone into a vegetative state would not make them stronger.

BTW Nietzsche suffered from dementia and was rather keen on narcotics.
Anyone with a with chronic illness promoting the ideas of this demented junkie is shooting themselves in the foot ...</sup>

“The invalid is a parasite on society. In a certain state it is indecent to go on living. To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost ought to entail the profound contempt of society.”

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_invalid_is_a_parasite_on_society-in_a_certain/323161.html[/size] [/sup]

But the statement makes sense if someone has a rebirth and leaves behind him years of suffering. This particular someone has been used to struggle with many difficulties, and  now he is free of them. This someone is now stronger than in the past. I think that is demografxīs case, and it could be perfectly amijgoro case- and everyone of us-(you have my full support amijgoro, what you are doing is amazing) when he finds a solution for his case. We are working to make it happen - because we are not in a vegetative state!!- .

[kurtosis]

Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger."

The statement "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." is nonsensical,
e.g. a non-fatal brain injury which rendered someone into a vegetative state would not make them stronger.

BTW Nietzsche suffered from dementia and was rather keen on narcotics.
Anyone with a with chronic illness promoting the ideas of this demented junkie is shooting themselves in the foot ...

“The invalid is a parasite on society. In a certain state it is indecent to go on living. To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost ought to entail the profound contempt of society.”

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_invalid_is_a_parasite_on_society-in_a_certain/323161.html
 

True but Nietzsche was also speaking with self-loathing and contempt for his own dependent state. He said some sensible and clever things and some that were ridiculous and/or fascistic. If a lunatic makes a good point and it gives someone a useful perspective then that's seems fine to me.

Also, I'd dispute that a quotation needs to be logical, consistent and well-formed to be useful. When I read that quotation by Nietzsche I think about the possibility that my perspective has been changed in some beneficial way by suffering from POIS. I believe it has. I understand that a person's life can be interrupted or upset by something external that appears to resist every attempt to treat it and is not recognised by the medical community. That was a hard lesson to learn and it's given me many insights into the limitations of medical knowledge and sympathy for those I may have been too busy and too arrogant to care about.

A friend of mine is a psychologist and he makes a good argument that great human endeavour is driven by our reaction to trauma. He argues that any form of achievement (sport, intellectually, music etc.) represents a thousand battles (metaphorically) with the traumas stored in our primitive brains. So I can understand what Demo is getting at. He's done what he has in life in spite of POIS and is driven to help us on this forum because the trauma of the POIS experience drives him to improve things for others. If Nietzsche helps provide that perspective then so be it.

[Habibou]

Even if you only read the forum, it is important you register so that we can know who have POIS symptoms and so that we have more weight on the opinion !

Amijgoro, I am exactly on the same situation as you concerning the state of POIS : I am in a constant one POIS now 2 years. I just started to take pills to increase my level of dopamin (under the controle of doctors as alaways) since I found out my level was very low. It was one of the only standard that failed so much...