[alancalverd]

Hi alancalverd,

Are you a pathetic idiot or just pretending?

No, just an old bloke with fond memories of youth. Post coitum omne animal tristus est (Galen) is very old news, and if a 17 year old only ejaculates once a week, it's hardly surprising he can't concentrate the rest of the time.

[Kima]

I'm cured thanks to Germany, now no symptoms after ejaculation
Good luck to everyone!

Kima.

[LAPOISSE2]

I'm cured thanks to Germany, now no symptoms after ejaculation
Good luck to everyone!

Kima.

Germany ?

[victor.kons]

alancalverd, you don't know what are you talking about.

I am POIS sufferer for 18 years. Last 3 years I have zero POIS symptoms on Niacin, and I can compare the experience with and without Niacin, I can compare how it can be to have POIS symptoms and not to have POIS symptoms. After sex if you don't have POIS you have very mild relaxation effect and you want to sleep to rebuild your energy, its quite normal process and nobody here claims this is wrong. But you don't have difficulties for learning new information for 4-5 days! No! This doesn't happen at all if you don't have POIS, actually you have pretty clear mind after sex, maybe you are not totally concentrated, maybe you have 95% of your best concentration, but you don't have difficulties learning new information or talking to anyone. You have just healthy desire to sleep. With POIS you have 5% of your concentration and 5% of your abilities to learn and 2% of your abilities to socialize and if you sleep everything becomes worser.

Please don't talk about things you don't have any clue about.

It is evident to any POIS sufferer here that your reasoning about POIS is very naive and plainly wrong, we saw many people thinking like you. You are just at a wrong place to post conclusions like below.

Victor

No, just an old bloke with fond memories of youth. Post coitum omne animal tristus est (Galen) is very old news, and if a 17 year old only ejaculates once a week, it's hardly surprising he can't concentrate the rest of the time.

[johanstefansson]

Had sex yesterday with partner, great and strong orgasm. Today no cognitive dysfunction what so ever. No problems, just little dry in eyes, and a little short of breath right after ejaculation and some light coughing. No other symptoms.

That's great!

No porn, no masturbation, no fantasies for 6 months does the trick. Been taking zink and nutritional pill for some months now. Also combined with daily 15 min relaxation. Maximum sex once every 2 weeks.

I don't know about you others here but i guess i suffered from addiction and dopamine issues.
Allthough i do fear winter is coming, normally gets worse then, I will keep you guys updated.

I still strongly suggest anyone to read www.yourbrainonporn.com, saved my life!

[nomore2013]

I'm cured thanks to Germany, now no symptoms after ejaculation
Good luck to everyone!

Kima.

Germany ?

german = herman

[MrVat7]

Hello victor,

I seriously dont know what to do .. i am keeping control on my ejaculation frequencies.. i even take a break for 3-4 months but then after i ejaculate i feel like dementia for next 4-5 days..even cannot walk straight .. dont even feel my legs while walking..unable to talk recall learn.. but miraculously i recover then from dementia type of behavour ( caused by pois ) .. and then it is hard to recover what i lost in that 5 days..having such problem at 17 ? is it normal ? will it cure ? or even worsen ?

[victor.kons]

Hello Suffering,

Yes, this sounds exactly like POIS to me. For some people it resolves by itself, for most of us it worsens over time, but not much. However there are cases when some people begin to live in POIS state and don't return to normal at all.

Of course having this problem is NOT NORMAL. Will it cure? Don't know - it might resolve by itself or after taking vitamins and might not resolve easily. We don't know what POIS is exactly, all we know is that it has such 3-5 days cycles triggered by ejaculation. That's why we arranged doing a research.

But for now, when research is not started yet and doesn't yet have results you can help yourself at least relieve your symptoms and improve quality of your life.

When I was young I had innocent method to relieve my symptoms - I studied poems by heart after ejaculation, this somehow cleared my POIS symptoms next day. Now this method doesn't work for me anymore unfortunately. Try it if it helps you - then great. If not, you can still support you with diet or vitamins.

If it doesn't help - go to your doctor and tell about your problem and discuss with him possible methods to relieve your symptoms found by our community: http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=75.0

Hope you will find something useful for you that was tried by POIS community for the time being.

Victor

Hello victor,

I seriously dont know what to do .. i am keeping control on my ejaculation frequencies.. i even take a break for 3-4 months but then after i ejaculate i feel like dementia for next 4-5 days..even cannot walk straight .. dont even feel my legs while walking..unable to talk recall learn.. but miraculously i recover then from dementia type of behavour ( caused by pois ) .. and then it is hard to recover what i lost in that 5 days..having such problem at 17 ? is it normal ? will it cure ? or even worsen ?

[MrVat7]

yeah victor, i understand what u are saying.. i will contact my physician and a psychiatrist ASAP ..and i will post what they say..i feel glad to know that there are people like me..

And i brought some niacin tablets 500 mg .. it seems that it brings back cognition.. vasodialation may be one of the key factor for curing pois.

[victor.kons]

yeah victor, i understand what u are saying.. i will contact my physician and a psychiatrist ASAP ..and i will post what they say..i feel glad to know that there are people like me..

There are MANY people like you and all these people are struggling to find the cure and sharing found remedies between us.

And i brought some niacin tablets 500 mg .. it seems that it brings back cognition.. vasodialation may be one of the key factor for curing pois.

500 mg sounds like way too much (or it is slow releasing Niacin, which doesn't work at all). Typical dose to prevent POIS is 100-200mg of fast releasing Niacin, which should be taken an hour before O. You would want to start from 50mg first time and increase to 150-200mg to adapt your body to Niacin during several days and only after that try to have an O and check how it affect your POIS.

If you want to seriously consider Niacin, please read all of this thread:
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=174.0

Niacin doesn't work for all POIS sufferers, but for some of us, including me, it does relieve symptoms to 90%-100%

I think vasodilation and vasoconstriction are not causes, they are just symptoms, IMO. In Russia half of people who visit the doctor with issues that have mental symptoms are "automagically"  diagnosed with VVD (vascular vasodilation dystonia). These people are then treated with various vascular meds and tranquilizers. Such treatment seems to have close to zero success according to VVD sufferers testimonals available on russian internet forums.

Victor

[MrVat7]

I think vasodilation and vasoconstriction are not causes, they are just symptoms, IMO. In Russia half of people who visit the doctor with issues that have mental symptoms are "automagically"  diagnosed with VVD (vascular vasodilation dystonia). These people are then treated with various vascular meds and tranquilizers. Such treatment seems to have close to zero success according to VVD sufferers testimonals available on russian internet forums.

Yeah you are absolutely correct.. but it should be that there is certain release of maybe hormones or biochemicals in the body followed by orgasm that causes the symptoms which POIS sufferer feels.. so, the need is to find that unnecessary things released which upsets the body.. curing pois from the root is neccesary..

[MrVat7]

Dexter's patient, who had been symptomatic for 27 years, was completely treated by 5 to 10 mg doses of norethisterone

norethisterone ? is it safe to take ?

[acronym]

Dexter's patient, who had been symptomatic for 27 years, was completely treated by 5 to 10 mg doses of norethisterone

norethisterone ? is it safe to take ?

From what I have read I would say so in low doses. Some doctors do prescribe it for older men. Your body actually produces progesterone, though from what I read norethisterone is a slightly different synthetic version. You ideally need to check with your doctor, but don't be shocked if he just dismisses it as..'that's for women. You don't need to worry about that'.
I am curious if any others on here gave progesterone (like natural skin creme version) a shot. I did a site search but not much came back in regards to people's experiences.

[MrVat7]

I've found out a new remedy for POIS.. it actually works on me.. what i did was after ejaculation , as soon as i felt cognitive decline .. started activities that put load on my brain.. eg. studying , solving puzzle , try to remember things occurred within past few days and recalling previously learnt information ( after ejaculation one feels lack of concentration and find hard to recall and learn new things ) but what to do is doing exactly opposite you feel after ejaculation.. no matter how hard to find to concentrate or feel sleepy.. make a timetable of sleeping and manage at least 7-8 hours of sleep.. and during active hours ..by few hours of mind twisting activities you will actually feel cognition increased. Few minutes of meditation .. deep inhaling and exhaling with typical faster rate than usual also helps.

Pros : doing mind twisting activities is actually good for one's brain.
         brings cognition without any drug.

Cons : One may find a bit hard in starting.. you may even feel to stop this. try if it works on you ..

-> the cool thing is there are no side effects.. i felt my cognition literally increase within two hours of this excercise..

[victor.kons]

Hi Suffering,

I've found out a new remedy for POIS..

...

..by few hours of mind twisting activities you will actually feel cognition increased.

This is exactly what I recommended you:

Hello Suffering,

...

When I was young I had innocent method to relieve my symptoms - I studied poems by heart after ejaculation, this somehow cleared my POIS symptoms next day. Now this method doesn't work for me anymore unfortunately. Try it if it helps you - then great. If not, you can still support you with diet or vitamins.

This is not new. We are well aware that mental activity helps POIS, especially focused on remembering and recalling things. Unfortunately it seems that the technique works only for people having early stages of POIS.

Victor

[MrVat7]

Well thats okay.. but the cool thing is it works ..for now .. so i can actually keep myself up till a permanent solution is found..

[Dean93]

Hello. Just checking in after a long time.

I'm now being treated for my condition as depression and I'm doing a lot better. I now mostly refer to my condition as clinical depression triggered by orgasm. Relevant comments are welcome.

If this comic strikes a chord with you, it might be something for you to look into as well.

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2013/05/depression-part-two.html

Talk to your doctor. The best to everyone.

[Over it]

Hello. Just checking in after a long time.

I'm now being treated for my condition as depression and I'm doing a lot better. I now mostly refer to my condition as clinical depression triggered by orgasm. Relevant comments are welcome.

If this comic strikes a chord with you, it might be something for you to look into as well.

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2013/05/depression-part-two.html [nofollow]

Talk to your doctor. The best to everyone.

Haha, great link. Thanks.

[LAPOISSE2]

Hello. Just checking in after a long time.

I'm now being treated for my condition as depression and I'm doing a lot better. I now mostly refer to my condition as clinical depression triggered by orgasm. Relevant comments are welcome.

If this comic strikes a chord with you, it might be something for you to look into as well.

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2013/05/depression-part-two.html

Talk to your doctor. The best to everyone.

Hi Dean,

Be very carefull with any kind of chemical "treatment" for depression ; from my experience, there is no magik pill for that and most of doc, especially psychastrist have no clue about long term effect of antidepressant drugs. It will never treat anything or raise serotonine, it will just recycle your low serotonine and potentially interfere with your natural brain neurotransmitors system ; just like cocaine or exctasy ; it actually the exact same mecanism. Nobody has a primary deficiency of serotonine, and SSRI's are not the same as insulin for diabetic..It's pretty scandalous that most of docs say that.
I took SSRI's for two years and even though it help for a while(probably by removing anxiety), I got afterwards into hell because of them ; And it didn't solve my depression or my POIS ;

However, I'm pretty sure right now POIS is mind related disease(like most of the disease actually) ; It's insane to oppose mental and physical, they are both involved in pretty much every medical problem. POIS cause and depression are working together, feeding each other ; so adressing depresion is a good idea, but not with pills..it will not work, I've quite an experience about it and I'm 100% sure of what I say.

[John21 (OP)]

Be very carefull with any kind of chemical "treatment" for depression ; from my experience, there is no magik pill for that and most of doc, especially psychastrist have no clue about long term effect of antidepressant drugs. It will never treat anything or raise serotonine, it will just recycle your low serotonine and potentially interfere with your natural brain neurotransmitors system ; just like cocaine or exctasy ; it actually the exact same mecanism. Nobody has a primary deficiency of serotonine, and SSRI's are not the same as insulin for diabetic..It's pretty scandalous that most of docs say that.
I took SSRI's for two years and even though it help for a while(probably by removing anxiety), I got afterwards into hell because of them ; And it didn't solve my depression or my POIS ;

I agree 100%. SSRIs seemed to help when I took them many years ago, but even now I continue to have long term side effects from withdrawl. I believe the best way to enhance neurotransmitters is with daily protein shakes (amino acids are neurotransmitter precursers) and other nutritional goldmines like wheat germ and sesame seeds.