Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

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« Reply #200 on: 01/01/2008 00:04:08 »
"just the simple fact that serotonin is released at a enormous rate during the act of love making and both partners experience a "low" of serotonin after the act (think of a drug user)."

This maybe true but we know that most men cope well afterwards, we dont. So we must have something going wrong. I propose that we have a fault within the hypothalamus. A fault that prevents the dopamine/prolactin balance from recovering normally. A fault that upsets a healthy immune response via the hypothalamus. A fault that causes a runaway stress response involving the CRF hormone via the pituitary. The CRF hormone lowers brain levels of serotonin and raises cortisol. The CRF hormone may underpin this whole illness.
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« Reply #201 on: 01/01/2008 00:07:08 »
What a relief ! --- Like most I thought I was alone with this problem. I have suffered a  dissociative, derealisation? type dream state since my first ejaculation. Now in my early 60's it has progressed to the full spectrum and lasts about 7 days or so. On top of the dream state I now get severe fatigue/weakness, significant generalised muscle aching/tenderness, sub acute sore throats, swollen lymph glands, inflamed sinuses. low grade night sweats, daytime "boiling" accompanies any activity and - just  recently- transient generalized joint pains ( actually, around the joint).
   What makes it all so difficult is that my sex drive remains very persuasive - it is difficult for me to resist sexual activity if in "proximity" and, after 3 - days or so the urge becomes overwhelming. Masturbation seems to produce less "trauma" but ,even so ,it's marginal.  Like others, I literally fear close relationships and for the first time in my life I am actively avoiding them. My irresistible urge and the consequences result in a state of existence that make living barely worth while. No, this is not a suicide note - but did I not have a couple of loving daughters it might well be. I have read most of the entrees and am surprised not to have noted similar sentiments of total desperation.

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« Reply #202 on: 01/01/2008 10:39:00 »
All POIS cases

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« Reply #203 on: 02/01/2008 01:48:17 »
hi. I am also suffering from this affliction, and have done for as long as i can remember. i look like death after I ejaculate and feel sick, tired, cant think, sweats, etc. i might as well write off the next day or so.
interestingly this is only after masturbation but not after sexual intercourse.

i always try to find the natural solution out of this and although nothing is 100%, the following help a little:

5htp
protein shakes
yoga
strenuous exercise(as difficult as this can be)
also mental effort to ignore symptoms
sometimes also strong tobacco.

 

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« Reply #204 on: 03/01/2008 03:04:04 »
WELCOME TO EJ AND ULTRAKA!

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« Reply #205 on: 03/01/2008 03:15:37 »
I have read most of the entrees and am surprised not to have noted similar sentiments of total desperation.

EJ, I suspect that some people, myself included, are not as willing and brave as you are to express these sentiments. I have certainly experienced them.

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« Reply #206 on: 03/01/2008 18:30:12 »
yoga

Have you tried tantra-yoga. I think yoga has a lot of very interesting things to say about sex.

Especially the technique of "Mula Bandha" seems to be interesting. On the same line you should realy look into Kegel excercises especially if you want to avoid wet dreams.


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« Reply #207 on: 03/01/2008 18:38:34 »
Go to www.semenloss.com for more information.

Can we please stick with reality.

Post Orgasmic Cognitive Symptoms are COGNITIVE symptoms which happen in the BRAIN.

The best explanation is that at the moment of orgasm the brain is overloaded by excessive blood pressure. This strikes a blow to the head which takes days to recover from. It may or it may not involve a heavy, thunderclap type headache.

But it does however create COGNITIVE symptoms, like memory loss, fatigue, ...

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« Reply #208 on: 03/01/2008 18:46:42 »
Actually looks like another one of those stupid catholic sites where they want to talk about how bad masturbation realy is.

Can somebody please explain to those idiots that ejaculation is a necessary process of the male reproductive cycle.

IT CAN *NOT* BE AVOIDED!!!

Also:

If semen would be stored in the blood why do you get more wet dreams from fat food then from actual pornography.

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« Reply #209 on: 03/01/2008 20:03:30 »
More POIS cases found on the web.


I'm adding each new case. But the list is long so I need several posts. Please read p11, p12, p13, p14.

1/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080116193517AAzlKbz

Do you feel exhausted for a whole week after ejaculation?
I just discovered that I have very rare syndrom (some call it Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome). After I ejaculate I have brain fog, I feel mentally and physically exhausted for a week or longer and if i don't prevent myself from masturbating I will constantly have brain fogness, low energy, tongue tied... How did I discover this? Ever since I started masturbating (5th grade) I've been living a life in confusion. Now I'm 22 and last spring I started experimenting - trying not to masturbate for as longer as possible. After 2 weeks without it, I felt that energy was built up and I had incredible drive to do things, think clearly, talk to ppl easily. I simply felt normal. And I can destroy that collected energy with 1or 2 masturbations. Later I heard that Eastern Philosophies talk about connection between energy and masturbation. The worst thing is that I'm an artist and I can't do good artwork after I masturbate. I think that my condition ruined my life and I've never had a girlfriend
Well now I don't have a problem to get a girlfriend because I know how to keep my mind clear, my energy level up - with keeping my hand off my penis. It's a strange condition and most of you are luck to not have it. For some time I used to think that this happens to everybody, but no, its very rare condition.

2/ http://medical.justanswer.com/questions/4hn6-everytime-orgasam-feel-ill-next

Everytime I have an orgasam, I feel ill for the next several days, longer if I have more of them. I get blood shot eyes, flu like symptoms, feel lehargtic, sometime I get a rash under my underarms, tense involluntary muscles on my scalp, ears popping, sweating increases, etc. I discovered it is called POIS (Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome) and others have it. )Check out Doctorbob.com seb site and others for confirmation. this is not an imaginary illness, and it is embarrassing to talk about. Anyone know knything more about it? Is it being allergic to one's own hormones or neurotransmitters? HELP!!


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http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic102000.html?sid=b4aae49c1f169d24a0e5d19d170fc48c

by means of a wet dream, masturbation, or anything else results in a lack of concentration. Basically, for 5 to 6 days it becomes extremely difficult to concentrate on anything, I simply cannot sustain a train of thought to think things through. I become extremly absent minded. This makes it difficult to read, hold conversations, follow lectures, take tests, remember things, and learn things. I feel extremly tired and jittery, both physically and mentally. I also become depressed during this time. Its like being totally burned out in the head; much like how people after an epileptic attack are. Also, I get strong headaches after masturbation. Allow me to repeat, these symptoms last 5 to 6 days! So its having a huge affect on my life. I've gone to a neurologist, but he doesn't seem to know whats wrong. He prescribed an ssri, but only because I mentioned I get depression after an orgasm.
If anyone has any idea of what I can do to fix this, or any information at all, please respond.
i asked this question many times at yahoo , but didnt get a solution , have been to nerologist , done all MRA + MRI all came normal !!
dont tell me stop masterbation !! pls
help me
SG

did they dignose me wrong ssri problem
I did Mri & MRA‘s every thing came normal they put me on ssri Antidepressant drugs.
At night I took it before sleep and I woke up terrible sick like mind was not with me, doing all stuff wrong cannot concentrate and think right.
May I know should I continue with the drug or stop it.
The drug is called Zoloft.
Does it means anything; does it mean that serotonin is not the problem what do u says???
Oh yes before Zoloft last 15 days back the doc prescribed me with cepram , but it was more terrible so I have to stop it , now I am on again getting the ride on a new roller coaster called ZOLOFT , how do I know that I am surely a SSRI patient.

Zoloft failure but only 15 days !! He should do another test it at least 1 month.

4/ http://www.yinyanghouse.com/node/1766

Depressed after masturbating & other stuff
Hello. I'm a 22 year old male. I have noticed that whenever I masturbate, I seem to be more anxious and tired the next day than normal. I feel like lacking in energy and just tend to be easily frustrated. What could cause this? I've been to acupunture several times because of restlessness&tiredness and general depressiveness. It has helped somewhat, but not that much that sometimes I don't feel very frustrated and hopeless about the way I am. Anybody want to offer insight? Oh, and I excercise regularly (lately astanga yoga and sometimes hiking)

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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=At6RrOSCDwT.c2VAZO3diM3sy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20071123225112AAU76SR

Why do I feel like this after masturbation?
I'm 18 yr old, single & a virgin. Hav been masturbating for last 3-4 yrs. I feel dizzy & weak after masturbating; I feel like sleeping. Why does it happen? Since I don't hav sex I feel masturbation is necessary for me, I just need to do it. What do I do now? plz help!!


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http://asianfanatics.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t489406.html

Excessive masturbation = health problems?
Hi guys,
I have a serious question and I really hope you guys can help me out. This is for guys and I'm sure whatever we can contribute will be beneficial to all guys who masturbate or have sex a lot.
I've googled before and have gotten different answers like "not harmful" vs "excessive masturbation results in reduced concentration in the brain/feeling tired all the time etc."
I'm starting to think the latter is true because I've been masturbating for the past 7 years quite often. I've been known to do it everyday for months in a row, soemtiems twice a day. Rare times I will not do it for a week or so, but then it doesn't last long.
I have since noticed (about 4 years ago) that my mind can't concentrate as well as before, I feel more tired/fatigued usually..like usually if I end up sleeping over 10 hours I actually feel worse and "confused" in my mind as opposed to friends who say they feel "refreshed" after a nice sleep.
This fatigue/lack of concentration sometimes doesn't appear but most often does.
Also, there are times when after masturbation a few days in a row, my left chest hurts a lil. I get scared but just usually stop for a day or so and eventually resume...

Does anyone know if this is bad for the heart as well? ie. makes ur heart beat faster (which is not good as it's working harder than it should) or potentially cause any heart problems?

See this site seems to talk about the "fatigue" that I feel:
http://www.prostate-massage-and-health.com...sturbation.html

Please be honest and share what you know.
What I don't get is that masturbation/sex isn't really that different, so people who have sex a lot should be in the same boat as me so hmm...
I really will try my best to stop, it's just so hard!
Note: I have a girlfriend and she really doesn't mind me masturbating on my own times (not that this matters to anyone but I feel that someone's gonan be all "get a gf" on me)

7/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070511150235AA6JaJq

Why do i get REALLY tired after sex?
after sex i usually stay tired for at-least that whole day and now, more recently for a day and half. i feel like sleeping but when i try to sleep, i can't.
is there anything i can do maybe eat/drink something to get my energy back?
age 21.

"I feel like sleeping" : perfect expression to define what i feel too....


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http://www.byedr.com/Mens-Health/351-mens-health-2.html

Usually I feel drained the following day after having sex the night before.

9/

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071104031554AAjkbH2

What to do i feel lazy and weak after masturbation ?
i am a 16 year old boy
my height is 5"5inches
my weight is 45kgs
suggest me something
i tried to leave this but after 2 days or more
i get involed again
plzz help meeeeeeeeeeeeeee????????

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 http://www.steadyhealth.com/Feeling_tired_and_cant_concentrate_t110618.html

I feel soo tired and weak after ejaculation. I will have to take Vitamins to recover and it will take about 1 to 2 weeks to fully recover. If i dont take vitamin i dont know when i will recover. I will have diahrea, sweating feet, sweating nuts and my whole body is breaking down. So, right now im so afriad of ejaculating. What should i do ?

11/

http://www.ehealthforum.com/health/topic16511.html

this question concerns my boyfriend and his masturbation "problem". Frankly, i'm at the end of my tether on this and so i'm looking for anything that will point me in the right direction.
His problem is that he gets migraines, like clockwork, 2 days after masturbating.
But here's the thing; if he's having sexual relations (actual intercourse or me masturbating him) with me, he does not have these problems. Only when he is masturbating himself. Only solo does he get migraines.
I found out about this because of his insistance to stop masturbating altogether (with varying amounts of success). Without having any religious convictions (he was raised agnostic) or any specific phobias (no feelings of guilt, sin, or wrongness...Or fears of making messes), he has decided to quit completely. He says that he had no migraines in the month that he managed it, and only gets them after masturbating.
My question is twofold, so here it is:
has anyone heard of this before, and/or does anyone have any theories or suppositions about what this might be? If I get ideas for questions to ask him, I bounce them off of him. Any thoughts whatsoever would be appreciated...
And 2) should I just, you know, drop the issue? I mean, it's not as if he needs "permission from [his] girlfriend to masturbate or not" (his words). But it's not the do or don't, it's the reason behind it that concerns me. The choice itself is fine. The grounds on which it is done need some looking into.

12/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic84137.html
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'm 20, light (124lbs), and extremely fit. The problem is after ejaculation by means of a wet dream, masturbation, or anything else results in a lack of concentration. Basically, for 5 to 6 days it becomes extremely difficult to concentrate on anything, I simply cannot sustain a train of thought to think things through. I become extremly absent minded. This makes it difficult to read, hold conversations, follow lectures, take tests, remember things, and learn things. I feel extremly tired and jittery, both physically and mentally. I also become depressed during this time. Its like being totally burned out in the head; much like how people after an epileptic attack are. Also, I get strong headaches after masturbation. Allow me to repeat, these symptoms last 5 to 6 days! So its having a huge affect on my life. I've gone to a neurologist, but he doesn't seem to know whats wrong. He prescribed an ssri, but only because I mentioned I get depression after an orgasm.

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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AhPvD1yr1GODusSdIvHD2xgjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20070420151943AAcpYhX

Guys - do you lose a lot of energy from ejaculation?
I know we all feel wiped temporarily right afterward. But I have personally found that for the next day at least I am a lot more tired, sleepy at work, and have much less energy to work with. Also, if I am sick, and I ejaculate, I always get significantly sicker. I would like to hear from other guys. Do you lose significant energy for a more extended time than the next hour or so? If so, for how long before you feel "normal," and how much energy would you say you lose (%) ? Thanks.

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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Al3U6FT8A3ihU_UGBjD82h4jzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20060817095003AAO9zdd

 Ejaculation frequency and depression?
It seems like my mood is connected to the frequency at which I ejaculate. I know ejaculation takes away lot of energy from a man. I'm 26 male and single, and it I go two weeks or so without ejaculating I'm pretty upbeat and my moods are generally good. But, if I ejaculate once or twice a day, everyday for a week or two I feel low on energy, irritable, and feel very depressed about myself and things in my life.

Anyone else dealt with something similar? Any ideas on how to respond to this? I'm very concerned about how frequent sexual activity causes me to feel depressed.

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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AtJKxtVGR7WJOyBcog1SAS0jzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20070916153312AAcSBMa

What can cause a man to be extremely tired after ejaculation?
My husband is 40 years old, we have sex about once a month- He is extremely exhausted after ejaculation- even if little other physical exertion is used. I would prefer sexual relations, but he is so tired after relations that I don't bring it up often (no pun intended) I love my husband very much, but our sexual life is not what I would like it to be and I am worried about him also. I don't think all men, age 40, have this problem, but I don't have experience with other men and don't know who else to ask about this somewhat delicate situation. Any advice for me/us? Any other men have this problem? And yes, it is a problem for me also.

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #210 on: 05/01/2008 01:25:00 »
On the same line you should realy look into Kegel excercises especially if you want to avoid wet dreams.

When has an excercise ever shown to prevent wet dreams. What utter nonsense.


The best explanation is that at the moment of orgasm the brain is overloaded by excessive blood pressure. This strikes a blow to the head which takes days to recover from.

How can you possibly assert that all people with POIS are victims of high brain blood pressure. How do you know this and how can you become an authority for best explanation on this subject.

Actually looks like another one of those stupid catholic sites where they want to talk about how bad masturbation realy is.
IT CAN *NOT* BE AVOIDED!!!

Hold on, ive known people who did avoid masturbation as part of their faith. Not saying they never did but they did avoid it.

If semen would be stored in the blood why do you get more wet dreams from fat food then from actual pornography.

Semen stored in blood ???
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #211 on: 05/01/2008 08:49:46 »
When has an excercise ever shown to prevent wet dreams. What utter nonsense.

http://www.coolnurse.com/wet_dreams.htm
http://www.coolnurse.com/kegel_exercises.htm

How can you possibly assert that all people with POIS are victims of high brain blood pressure. How do you know this and how can you become an authority for best explanation on this subject.

Possible not. But I have spoken with both sexologists and neurologists.

Hold on, ive known people who did avoid masturbation as part of their faith. Not saying they never did but they did avoid it.

The subject of the sentence was ejaculation, not masturbation.

Semen stored in blood ???

See www.semenloss.com

PS. I wouldn't try a flame war if I were you. I have been through anough to know you are going to loose!

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« Reply #212 on: 05/01/2008 09:27:32 »
So I just realized that live is to short to be in a fight with any bulies so I will just give in to what bizzy wants and leave. Altough I haven't seen him come up with any bright ideas.

Just wanted to add that you (except for buzzy who for I care can spent the next 50 years feeling miserable) should realy have to look into gingko biloba.

The full description on the bottle states:

"Gingko has the ability to promote circulatory perfusion, particularly in cerebreal tissue. Gingko is neurosupportive, promotes cognition and memory function, and is good for occasional mild memory problems associated with aging. In addition, Gingko contains antioxidant properties that help fight free radicals in the body."

Well I don't know what you are talking about, but I am talking about post orgasmic cognitive symptoms.

After trying it out there are some pros and cons:

+ it realy does work. The pressure in the body is not as high as what it used to be
- as it reduces blood pressure you might get some very mild form of erectile dysfunction

But if I have to choose between days of pain and having to put some extra effort into it. I know what I would choose.

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« Reply #213 on: 05/01/2008 15:19:49 »
Hello EJ and Ultraka

EJ, I know how bad it can be, believe me I know... feels like the fires of hell.

imre,
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Actually looks like another one of those stupid catholic sites where they want to talk about how bad masturbation really is.

Can somebody please explain to those idiots that ejaculation is a necessary process of the male reproductive cycle.

IT CAN *NOT* BE AVOIDED!!!

I am of the Catholic faith I believe ejaculation can indeed be avoided although not entirely. I avoid any media content that would lead me to think erotically, and this usually keeps me chaste. I still have the the occasional wet dream and even more infrequently the temptation to masturbate. But in my case the incidence has gone from frequent to infrequent, which is very good for a guy with POIS.  [:)]

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« Reply #214 on: 06/01/2008 03:22:23 »
I quit testosterone, no effect on POIS. But now my libido is waaaaaaaaaay down. I feel that my approach of taking Levitra works well on POIS. I need Levitra for ED; I suggest you DON'T try it if you don't need it, it may cause a stroke if you don't need it for ED, according to one source. Levitra works successfully on POIS (qualifiedly: for me)  - and, you know what? Even though I finally have a "solution" to POIS 25 years later, I'm EXHAUSTED, it's become anti-climactic (yes, I know it's immature, but I'm pissed off at the world for giving me this pathetic syndrome - it's ruined a good chunk of my life) - so, for now, I'm not even bothering to take the steps necessary to improve my libido, either short term or longterm.

Sorry, everyone, to be so negative, but I suspect some of you might understand firsthand what I'm going and have gone through. Maybe my mood will improve. Just for now I'd like to throw the whole sex business in the garbage.
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« Reply #215 on: 06/01/2008 05:39:28 »
Hello everybody,

This is my first time posting to this thread, although I have been reading it for a couple of months now.  Although it has taken some time to overcome my hesitancy about publicly discussing my POIS symptoms, I have been very encouraged by everybody's ideas and supportive messages.  I will begin by describing some of my symptoms--most of them are pretty similar to what other people have said, although I've listed a couple at the end which I haven't seen mentioned before.

History: I am currently 28 years old.  I first started noticing POIS symptoms around age 23.  Before that age, I don't recall noticing any significant after-effects following orgasm.

Duration: The symptoms usually last around 24 hours after an orgasm.  Typically, if an orgasm occurs in the evening/night, I'd feel drained the next day, but I'd have recovered by the day after that.

Physical:  I feel physically fatigued and drained.  When I wake up in the morning after having had an orgasm the night before, I feel extremely drained and find it difficult to get out of bed.  The extreme fatigue and heaviness-feeling lessens a little once I do get up, but it still remains significantly impairing throughout the day.  I am also physically sensitive during the POIS period: I don't like to be touched.

Cognitive: Concentrating as well as verbalizing and communicating with others are much more difficult.  There is definitely a strong feeling of brain fog/derealization.

Emotional: I find that I am more sensitive than usual: things will upset me more easily and I get irritated with other people more easily.  This makes interactions with others during the POIS period more challenging.

Other symptoms: a somewhat strange symptom of mine, which I haven't seen mentioned by anyone else, is that during the POIS period, my eyes are involuntarily drawn towards women, much more than during non-POIS periods.  It doesn't even seem to be a matter of typical sexual desire, since the POIS  normally leaves me lower sexual energy than usual.  It is hard to explain, but somehow it seems more like a matter of visual attraction to the shape/appearance of women's bodies as opposed to sexual attraction.  Has anyone else experienced something like this?

Also, apart from the POIS, I suffer from premature ejaculation, which (since it is also a sexual problem) could be connected to the POIS symptoms.  Do others also experience PE?

OK, I will post more soon, describing my attempts at treatment thus far. 

Again, I'm very grateful for everyone's contributions to this thread.  Let's keep up the ideas and the mutual support and encouragement!

best,
Guthrie

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« Reply #216 on: 06/01/2008 08:10:16 »
More cases :

16/  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AkuYeRLHvLVorgGkeUM1KeIjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20060713182235AANHC0z

Does ejaculation make us tired?
I feel tired for about three or four days whenever I ejaculate, so I should sleep more during this period, is this normal? if so is there anyway to prevent such tiredness?
I feel tired for about three or four days whenever I ejaculate, so I should sleep more during this period, is this normal? if so is there anyway to prevent such tiredness? (I can experience very energetic moments when I haven't had ejaculation for a week or so) --------- Why champion sportsmen (like football players) stop having ejaculation before and during contest period? does it make them to have more energy for playin?

17/  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Air.yHwZYWnJgBcgKqHc.C4jzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20070621210406AAWMgye

Why is it that i get tired, no energy for 1 week, afraid of cold, cant concentrate, sweating all over the body, sore back, need multi-vitamins to gain back the strength for 1 week, stomach hurts, after ejaculation while i was sleeping ? What kinda of doctor should i go see? I'm so afraid of it right now because its been bothering my life.

18/  http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/sexinfo/?article=faq&refid=029

am a 27 year old male with good physical health. However, i feel that after masterbation, i really feel very tired and my body hurts like i am
suffering with fever specially my back. Would u tell me what could be the cause of this tiredness which remain sometimes for more than on day after masterbation??? In addition, my penis also hurts sometimes??

Update : the link has been deleted. I certify it was a real case. I just make a copy of what i found, no modification. All cases here are real.


19/ http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/Archives/Archive-000011/HTML/20030420-107-000294.html

Okay... I don't just get sleepy immediately after I masturbate, I actually feel more tired like the whole next day if I don't get a good nights sleep.
Or to put it more clearly, unless I have time to sleep sleep sleep (like 9 hours instead of 6-7 I guess), I will feel more tired in general if I jack off every single day.
I also noticed that if I jack off without being aroused I feel more tired... ie. it's harder on the body.
Does anyone else notice this? I think I do a lot better when I listen to my body and see if I feel I need to masturbate. Or usually wait a day or two in between.
I don't know if it's different with sex cause I haven't gotten laid much.... Is this just ME? Anyone care to comment on the above?

20/  http://www.sexinfo101.com/forum/sexual_health_men/18603-tired_second_day_after_sex.html

Tired the second day after sex
In the next day after making love, I feel very tired...even more tired than in the day when it was - I don't have the same concentration power I used to have if nothing had been happened a few days ago.
What can be done to regain the energy?
Can you recommend any diet to speed up this process?
I'm a male!
This happens only if ejaculation occured, whether is sex, wet dream or smth else.
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"the 2nd day" : evidence is we have the same problem...

21/ http://www.yinyanghouse.com/node/1766

Hello. I'm a 22 year old male. I have noticed that whenever I masturbate, I seem to be more anxious and tired the next day than normal. I feel like lacking in energy and just tend to be easily frustrated. What could cause this? I've been to acupunture several times because of restlessness&tiredness and general depressiveness. It has helped somewhat, but not that much that sometimes I don't feel very frustrated and hopeless about the way I am. Anybody want to offer insight? Oh, and I excercise regularly (lately astanga yoga and sometimes hiking)

22/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic116973.html

What could be causing extreme fatigue and muscle weakness after orgasm?

I understand that men are always tired after sex, but it is more than being tired... It is not a feeling of wanting to go to sleep but feeling physically weak, continuing into the next day or longer. It impairs other cherished activities such as going for a run or working out the next day. This occurs after masturbation and sexual activities with a partner.

Is this abnormal and what could be causing it?

Any answers would be great... this has been very bothersome.

23/ http://tperkins.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=1520&sid=19452c0c56d3aa44f65012567bfa87fe

Recently, I have gotten a problem after ejaculation. It seems I loose too much energy after ejaculation that I feel too weak even to do a simple job. I have to take multivitamins and food supplement pills to feel better. This feeling continues till one or two days and then I become normal again. I have ejaculation once a week and that seems to be too much for me. I don’t know what to do. I do sports and feel healthy during the normal days and I have had ejaculations since I was 11. It is a terrible thing for a 26 year old guy. It’s really affecting my normal life I am very worried. Do you have any idea what I should do? Besides I have examined to take food supplement pills for some continuous time but it didn’t cure it.
Exactly, I had depression and anxiety problems three years ago and it took me a lot of time to get over it. As a matter of fact, it’s not finished yet but I am feeling very much better but I didn’t have such problems until 2 or 3 months ago. I thought maybe it’s good for me to use your male energy work to feel better. I don’t have any sex partners or even a girlfriend at this moment. My life is like, working a lot, study to get my masters at the same time, doing a little sport. I am a successful guy outer side but inner side, I don’t seem to enjoy life very much Crying or Very sad .

24/  http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Av9wbbzp1NUICmJ6Fwm2o07pFQx.;_ylv=3?qid=20070420151943AAcpYhX

Guys - do you lose a lot of energy from ejaculation?
I know we all feel wiped temporarily right afterward. But I have personally found that for the next day at least I am a lot more tired, sleepy at work, and have much less energy to work with. Also, if I am sick, and I ejaculate, I always get significantly sicker. I would like to hear from other guys. Do you lose significant energy for a more extended time than the next hour or so? If so, for how long before you feel "normal," and how much energy would you say you lose (%) ? Thanks.

25/ http://www.whfhhc.com/Depression/21062.htm

Ejaculation frequency and depression?
It seems like my mood is connected to the frequency at which I ejaculate. I know ejaculation takes away lot of energy from a man. I'm 26 male and single, and it I go two weeks or so without ejaculating I'm pretty upbeat and my moods are generally good. But, if I ejaculate once or twice a day, everyday for a week or two I feel low on energy, irritable, and feel very depressed about myself and things in my life.
Anyone else dealt with something similar? Any ideas on how to respond to this? I'm very concerned about how frequent sexual activity causes me to feel depressed.

26/ (Rare : a woman)
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AgS6NjTmJUcE3VHCz5dGJhAjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20070920060204AAPn2nO

After I do masturbation, I feel myself very tired. If I do it twice in a day, a day later I feel myself?
very tired too. As a result, I am scared to have sex because if I do it with a male, I think I wll become more tired. So I dont want to get married.
Do people who have sex feel tired after sex during the day?
I am 35/female
I am virgin. I believe sex after marriage. Moreover, I have a very busy job.

27/  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AlPP988oeapWvWY0AXCUBgYjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20080129152024AAJ6ZNi

Does ejaculation actually have any negative effects?
I'm in an on-going debate with someone so I'm trying to find some proof that ejaculation (specifically losing sperm) doesn't lower your life span or make you less intelligent or able to focus. I already know that after men ejaculate that they get tired, but I have serious doubts about it shortening their life or making them unable to focus for days after (as this person is implying). I really believe that it's due to other reasons and an unhealthy life style, not losing sperm.

I haven't found any articles supporting the idea yet. If anyone can find one that proves this as a myth or not that'd be a great way to answer my question.

28/ http://www.youqa.com/mens-health-5/737-mens-health-6.html

everytime I have sex with gf I feel a little sick afterwards for a few days then I feel fine again. I had myself tested and her tested for STD's and she has none. Maybe I just am getting use to her germs? How sick I get aftewards seems less and less each time.
The first time we had sex her STD status was unknown and I got scared when I had slight symptoms of the flu. So I got her tested and she was clean. I got myself tested and no pressence of STD's either. I had myself tested 3 months later and still clean.
The first couple sexual encounters I experienced slight stomach pains within 1 hour hour afterwards, a slight fever I think, tired, and just not myself. Now with many sexual encounters this feeling has gone away and I no longer get that anymore, but I still feel a very slight illness everytime I have sex with her or even when I masturbate.

29/ http://www.steadyhealth.com/Feeling_weak_and_dizzy_after_sex_t77221.html

For the past 6 months or so my boyfriend has been feeling very weak, dizzy and faint after he ejaculates from having sex, he complains of an almost out of body experience. It seems to be more of a problem if he does all the "work" and gets exhausted. He doesnt have any other sexual problems, altho he was preliminary diagnosed with pre-cordial catch (i think thats the correct term). I dont think this problem occurs if he maturbates.

Once again : "out of body experience" refers to me to "DEPERSONNALISATION"
when my "i feel like sleeping" refers to "DEREALISATION" (most advanced state)

30/ http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=3631

I also was dating, and had normal regular sex with my girlfriend, as well as "self stimulation". Well I was doing this for about four years out of high school, then I noticed I was feeling tired alot. Then one evening, I was out a a local beach party, I had a couple of beers, when I went home that night I "self stimulated" twice finishing off both times. The second time something very weird happened, I felt something like a mental energy drain, like some kind of vitality exited my body and/or mind. I immediately felt exhausted and felt strange bodily/nerve pain sensations. To make a long story short these continued for years after this, resulting in problems sleeping, fatigue on and off all the time, and pains in what felt like the nerves on and off.
The one I am most concerned about is that after I ejaculate, be it with a girl, "self stimulation", or a wet dream i am physically drained for days, and I experience aching under the ribs on the sides-alleviated most of the time when I urinate.

31/ http://www.bodybuilding-tips.net/s20/t9005.html

I tend to believe that ejeculating will lead to less test as I've nnotcied after ejaculation I feel tired amd lazy and lack energy.

32/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080220023808AAVslYH

Weak after sex...help?
my and my boyfriend had sex 2 days ago..he is feeling very weak and also very hungry...i know that men feel weak a few hours after sex...but 2 days straight is too much...btw we have had sex for the first time..what is the cause?

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« Reply #217 on: 06/01/2008 09:06:57 »
First of all, a big welcome to all of the new voices around here sharing their experiences with POIS. I find that sharing the smallest of details about our particular situations helps keep us thinking and searching. No thought is too small or irrelevant. We have a very very troublesome enigma before us and we must be willing to take some exploratory steps in order gain some new ground. I thank all of you for your thoughts.

I must comment concerning what imre1 has provided, one method in particular. It's subject to further testing, but I had a successful run with the start/stop method he previously suggested. Originally, he mentioned a 3-4 hour "exercise" but really, who has the time to masturbate for 3-4 hours? I had tried this some years ago to help remedy my premature ejaculation (Guthrie, this answers your question) but I was never able to endure such a build-up without relief. I always gave in! I decided to try this again, this time consciously aware that if I let off too early I would have to pay the piper severely. I held out for about 30 minutes and to my surprise the next day was almost normal. I felt a little fatigue but experience a sexual relaxation I hadn't had in a while. I experienced no mental fog or debilities, I was just a little tired. The day after that it was as if I had not ejaculated at all. Interesting huh?  I would say my person was at about 85%. I tried it again a week later but did not follow the same procedures and it didn't work. I just finished a recuperation cycle and am getting reading to try this again by the end of next week to somewhat conclusively determine if the start/stop method actually works. I will be sure to keep all of you posted. By the way, has anyone else tried this?

This method has not been my only ray of hope. I am also taking a some important and detrimental supplements. As I mentioned before, I credit St. John's Wort with alleviating my depression and mood swings, especially during POIS. I've also been experimenting with Spirulina with considerable success. You see, I sometimes feel that all of this POIS causes some sort of brain damage, I just don't feel right even after I'm back to normal. Its almost as if my brain is atrophied or anemic from the all of the trauma it has undergone during POIS. Spirulina has helped me put those broken pieces back together, I feel. From what I've read, it provides the brain with essential nutrients for mental function. I can share the specificity of the bio/neuro science at work at another time. All I know is that it has brought mental clarity and focus back into my life and I can set my eyes on something else besides myself for longer periods of time. For now I have to conclude that it has helped me tremendously. Spirulina has not only provides my brain with what it needs to function properly, I can tell it has had a reparative effect on my cognitive functions. Let me know what you think.

These three in particular have produced the greatest success for me and I hope it helps. Try them and tell me if you have experienced some of the relief that I have been enjoying. I'll be checking in and will make sure to post further results as soon as they are available. Until then, I wish you all milder symptoms and speedy recoveries. Its a catch-22 gentlemen, but we have to keep searching. Keep up the good work!

Sincerely yours,

Gonzo

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« Reply #218 on: 06/01/2008 12:54:08 »
Guthrie,
Your symptoms sound similar to mine except you recover quicker and I don't have the physical symptoms, only mental (although it's hard to find ambition to get physical in that state). I understand your hesitancy to post, it's a very private subject.

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« Reply #219 on: 06/01/2008 15:58:51 »
Hi everybody,

Thanks for your words of welcome.  I'll now talk about some of my efforts to combat POIS.
 
Starting around 12-15 months ago, I began researching different supplements.  For a while, I supplemented with soy lecithin, and then with zinc, but these didn't seem to have much of an effect. 

However, starting this past July, I started supplementing with Vitex/Chasteberry, using “The Vitamin Shoppe Chasteberry (Vitex) Extract” capsules.  The label says that each capsule contains 200 mg Chasteberry Extract and 300 mg Chasteberry, and it recommends taking 1 to 3 capsules per day.  For 3 months, I took one capsule every morning.  Then, for one month, I took two capsules every morning.  For the past two months, I've been taking two capsules in the morning, and one at night.  (Since July, I have also been taking Omega-3 supplements: flax oil, as well as DHA/EPA supplements.  However, I think that it is the Vitex, rather than these, that have been the crucial agents.)

From what I've read about Vitex, it can take a number of months to start having an affect.  I feel like taking more than one capsule per day has been more effective, but it could also be that the Vitex only starting kicking more once I'd been taking it for longer.

The POIS symptoms have not gone away entirely, but they have definitely improved.  Now, if I've had an orgasm the night before, I am still affected the next day, but the degree of the symptoms is lessened: I don't feel as emotionally sensitive, and the brain fog and verbalization symptoms are not as severe.  I think I tend to feel a little less physically fatigued.  Overall, I certainly still don't feel 'good', but I can get through my day more successfully.  So that has been positive. 

Interestingly, I've also noticed that, in a typical post-orgasm day, the symptoms are lessened throughout most of the day, but they increase sharply in the evening, starting around 6 to 8 p.m.  But when this happens, this more severe stage often only lasts for an hour or two, so that I am feeling better again before I go to sleep.  I find it strange that the symptoms would increase after having been less severe—-I have two theories as to why this might occur: 1) the Vitex is helping to combat the POIS symptoms, but it “runs out of steam” after a certain number of hours, allowing the normal POIS severity to return.  Or, 2) Whatever hormone/neurotransmitter imbalances are causing POIS naturally increase in the evening as a result of circadian rhythm changes.  In this case, the Vitex continues to work at the same level, but it has more to fight against, and so is less effective overall.

I'm not sure of the next step to take.  I will continue taking the Vitex, and I'll see if the symptoms get progressively better, but the improvement may have plateaued.  In different scientific studies, Vitex has been shown to lower prolactin, and it's possible that the POIS is in part caused by overproduction of prolactin after orgasm, which in turn inhibits dopamine and causes the fatigue/cognitive effects.  I had my prolactin level tested a year ago (during a non-POIS period), and it was normal.  I may go back and have it tested in the middle of a POIS period, to see if there is elevated prolactin.  If this turned out to be the case, it could be that POIS is linked to a form of latent hyperprolactinemia.  But, again, this is speculation, and I don't have any hard data at this point.

Along these same lines, I noticed that, on the link posted by B_Jim to discussion on the ISSM, one doctor says that Wellbutrin XL (Bupropion) helped one of his patients.  That doctor doesn't mention the prolactin/dopamine dynamic (he only talks about Bupropion's anti-anxiety and energizing qualities), but Bupropion is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, so it could have the effect of correcting for a dopamine deficiency caused by too much prolactin.  I have been thinking about asking my doctor about prescribing Wellbutrin, but I am hesitant to do so, since I am somewhat concerned about the potential adverse side affects of psychoactive antidepressants (even though Wellbutrin is different from SSRI's, which, from what I've read, have much greater side effects).  In contrast, almost all studies of Vitex that I saw reported that it had an extremely low level of side effects, so that's why I decided to try it first.

B_Jim, in your response to my symptoms, you thought that serotonin could be the main problem.  From what I had read, it struck me as similar to the induced dopamine deficiency described here.
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/162/9/1755
But, your serotonin hypothesis could also be correct: I wonder if there is a clear way to determine between the two based only on the symptoms.


Also, in terms of getting in touch with other POIS sufferers, when I was searching the web, I found a blog in France devoted to POIS, which has a pretty large number of postings:
http://fatigueapresorgasme.over-blog.com/
If you read French, you can check it out, or you can use online translation tools such as Altavista-Babel Fish or Google Translate.  Most people who have posted there have not reported success in alleviating the problems, but there is one person (Témoignage #12) who reported that his POIS symptoms disappeared entirely after taking the SSRI Sertraline (in the same drug-class as Zoloft).
I think I will write to that blog, and let them know about this Naked Scientist discussion thread.


I'd be interested in hearing anyone's insights or responses to all of this!

Guthrie


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« Reply #220 on: 06/01/2008 16:33:15 »
My responses to B_Jim's survey:

1)- Number of days after orgasm you have problems : 1,2,3,4...: 1 day
-How many hours after orgasm start symptoms ? The symptoms do not start in their full severity right away—I would say, about 2-3 hours.
- In the first hours after orgasm, how do you feel ?
(well, happy, cold, nervous, headaches ,agitated ....  ?)  After orgasm, I feel strange, and somewhat disconnected from things, but not 'bad' per se—-the 'bad' parts (painful brain fog, fatigue) start a little later.

2) Symptoms :
Give a mark for each symptom :
0=No   1=Very Low   2=Low    3=Average   4=Severe   5=Very Severe

-Physical tiredness
-Mental tiredness:4
-Lethargy/Derealisation (I cant wake up!):4
-Lack of concentration/Brain fog:4
-Sweatings and heat feelings:0
-Cold feelings/cold hands/cold body:0
-Myalgias:0
-Anxiety:4
-Depression:3
-Agoraphobia/Social phobia:3
-Not motived:3
-Memory problems:4
-Difficult to speak/communication:4
-Insomnias/sleep problems:1
-Headaches:1
-Stomachaches:0
-Restless/agitation:3
-Blurred vision:0
-Buzzing ears:0
-Dizziness:0
-Muscle tremors:0
-Diarrhea day1:2
-Hair problems:0
-Mouth problems:0
-Skin problems:0
-Eyes problems:0
-Short breathing Day1:3
-Premature Ejaculation:5
-Sexual pain after sex :0
-Erection problems:0
-Libido problems:0
Others Symptoms ?  My eyes are 'drawn' towards women, but almost as a visual rather than a normal sexual attraction.  Also, I find I can get sucked into surfing the web and find it harder to break away.

3) What medical test you made ? In the days following orgasm ?
-Thyroid ?
-Prolactine ?
-Testosterone?
-Blood pression?
-Others..
I have had my prolactin and testosterone tested, but only during a non-POIS period.  My prolactin was 7.6 ng/mL and my testosterone was 555 ng/dL, both of which were within the normal range, according to the doctor.


4)What meds did you test ? What effect on POIS ?
-Ssri ?
-Stimulants? Dopaminergic ?
-Benzodiazepine ?
-Piracetam ?

I have not taken any prescribed medications so far.  Only Vitex, whose effects I described in my most recent post.


5)Others
-What about you diet ?  I don't eat meat, dairy, or eggs (vegan).
-Sport ? Some aerobic activity; I walk a lot.
-Heavy Computer user ?  I use the computer a fair amount, but not excessively.
-Coffee user ? No.

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« Reply #221 on: 07/01/2008 10:50:15 »
More POIS cases :

33/ A woman : http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070607163708AAUIu19

Why do i feel so weak after sex especially the next day?
im only 20 years old but after sex i feel like i have the flu and then the next day i feel like i got into a fight or somthing and i notice i bruise easily too. like the guy im with will squeeze my -b-r-e-a-s-t and i dont feel bad at that time but today i noticed i have a bruise now is it normal to feel this weak? ive noticed also that when he f--i-n-g-e-r-e-d- me i bled also then it stopped .im going to get that checked out by a doctor but i am not a virgin but i know that its been a year since ive been penatrated since when i m-a-s-t-e-r-b-a-t-e i dont hardly finger myself or use somthing for insersion but is it normal to bleed somewhat since i havent been penatrated in a while and it was kinda vigarous ? it didnt hurt when he did anything really he noticed that i bled and then told me . i have no problem with lubracation and incersion is much easier now then it has ever been but i am worried though

34/ http://www.youqa.com/generic-health-2/722-9-youqa.html

Man feel weakness after sex?

Question:
Is it normal for man to feel weakness after sex? especially when he does more than 1 round every-day, or twice a day for 2-3 days. He is only 25.
How he can improve his health? or any other advice related to this?

35/ http://www.doctorndtv.com/faq/detailfaq.asp?id=2331

 What causes fever after sex?
Q. I got married 2 years ago. I have a problem for the last 6 to 7 months. During sexual contact with my wife, as the semen comes out I become very weak. I feel pain in all my veins, bones of legs and hands, a headache and then my body temperature becomes very low so that I have to cover myself with 2 to 3 blankets. After some time i got heavy fever. When I see any sexual things like movies, photos then the semen comes out slowly from the penis. After some time I feel some coolness in my underwear only then I realise it. Please comment.

A : "There is no disease like" ...
=> Your disease does not exist in my medicine book : it's psychologic ...  [::)]

36/ http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/328183

FEVER AFTER SEX
i had sex nights ago for the first time in about 6 months, next day  afternoon i developed a fever and i feel weak  fever is the only problem i have..can it be hiv or any other im very scared .!:(


37/  http://www.medhelp.org/forums/urology/messages/32047.html

I am a 28 year old male and since last once month I have been experiencing extreme lower thigh and limb muscular weakness and fatigue after ejaculation. Since then i have deteriorating muscle strenght in my legs and increasing fatigue. Earlier I used to feel weak after ejaculation but i guess that is normal. But these days after ejaculation or masturbation, eel my mind not being at ease and after a few minutes I start to expericence severe muscular painsand stiffness in my limbs. I'm suffering from extreme fatigue these days. Could it be some kind of harmonal imbalances? I have checked up with my GP for possible causes(any viral infections, thyroid, rheumatoid disorders, gravis, muscle wstage, anxiety and depression disorder). and so far everything has come out normal. I am at loss to find out what is causing this muscular pains in my legs triggered a month ago by ejaculation. The pain is quite similar to being as if I have run on a treadmill all day long. I will be meeting a neurologist next week.

38/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AkxiHqxIgXnOm.deI3yfdbHsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20071221163832AAmpKe4

What causes tiredness and low energy after masturbation?
I feel very tired most of the time and have very little energy. I find that i have more energy if i go without masturbating for a while, but as soon as i do it again i feel quite bad again and not just afterwards but for days. I know i had low hormones at one stage, but they arn't supposed to be affected by it. Does this happen to anyone else and what is it that causes it?

39/ http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Fatigue/Archive/FatigueCause/Q166244.html
http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Fatigue/Archive/FatigueCause/Q90074.html
(aids forum, but intersting)

Dr. Frascino, I am a 50 year old male, positive, officially, for 18 years, but probably longer. I have responded well to drug therapies (mostly HAART) and have had zero viral loads and T4 counts in the 800s for years. I exercise regularly and have mostly perfect lab results (done 4 - 5 times a year--even got my lipid profile down to normal by diet). I have LOTS of sexual desire, but unfortunately have a problem with severe post-ejaculation fatigue and insomnia. It really ruins a good night sleep and limits the spontanaity of sex for me. I have an excellant Dr. in Miami that I trust implicitly, but he claims to have never heard of this problem in other patients and has no ideas as to why I get so completely drained after ejaculation.Even after 8 hours sleep, I wake up exhausted and my eyeballs ache all day. I used to think that maybe it was a protein drain, and sometimes drink alot of milk before bed, but it only partially works. Can you help me, PLEASE?

Dear Dr.F: I have noticed a change in my "recovery time" after orgasm (specifically as my health started to decline in the late 90's). After orgasm I am wiped out often for days afterward and my mood is no picnic either. I am often moody and irritable with a capital I. I am presently taking testerone supplements and I still experience a surprising level of fatigue after orgasm. I am baffled at the level of fatigue I experience given the relatively short and sweet nature of this event. Do you have any suggestions about this?

40/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080427142640AAjfMwh

Headache/migrane ? lack of concentration ? after sex?
by means of a wet dream, masturbation, or anything else results in a lack of concentration. Basically, for 5 to 6 days it becomes extremely difficult to concentrate on anything, I simply cannot sustain a train of thought to think things through. I become extremly absent minded. This makes it difficult to read, hold conversations, follow lectures, take tests, remember things, and learn things. I feel extremly tired and jittery, both physically and mentally. I also become depressed during this time. Its like being totally burned out in the head; much like how people after an epileptic attack are. Also, I get strong headaches after masturbation. Allow me to repeat, these symptoms last 5 to 6 days! So its having a huge affect on my life. I've gone to a neurologist, but he doesn't seem to know whats wrong. He prescribed an ssri, but only because I mentioned I get depression after an orgasm.
If anyone has any idea of what I can do to fix this, or any information at all, please respond

41/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080623054957AAoc5Iy

I Feel Tired and Sleepy After Sex?
I get too tired after halving sex. It makes me feels as if i have gone for a long walk or excersie for a very long hours. My whole body becomes weak, I feel like i have taken some stress out of my body. I feel happy and relaxed but my body becomes very weak and makes me feel sleepy. Because of that i cant go many rounds. sometimes i end up going only one b,cos i feel tired and sleepy.

How can i go many rounds like the way others do, am a young guy of 25 years. and is it normal to get tired and sleepy?

42/ http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/98429-post-orgasmic-illness.html

Symptoms are high intense brain fog, headaches/migraines, memory problems, impaired thinking, flu and fever like symptoms, sore joints/muscles, fatigue/exhaustion,
anxiety, tension, sensitivty too light and many more.

These symptoms can last from 1 - 7 days after an ejaculation from either
Sex or Masturbation. Females have also reported these.

Does anyone know any good practioners that could help me and many others with this rare but serious illness?

I do have high Prog, Estrone levels, low cort and dhea but a few other people have good healthy hormone levels yet suffer from POIS too,

I notice that the following hours after ejaculation blood pressure increases for 12-24 hours, shortness of breath, strong anxiety issues, face, neck and shoulder cramp also.

43/ (woman)  http://malaysia.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070920060204AAPn2nO

After I do masturbation, I feel myself very tired. If I do it twice in a day, a day later I feel myself?
very tired too. As a result, I am scared to have sex because if I do it with a male, I think I wll become more tired. So I dont want to get married
Do people who have sex feel tired after sex during the day? I am 35/female

44/ http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=173788

 fact or fiction: frequent masturbation causes lethargy?
over like, i dont know, since the 9th grade (4 years ago), ive been combatting constant lethargy. I eventually got used to it though.
I recently heard from a friend that frequent masturbation causes lethargy. Now, this sounded like a myth, but now im thinking maybe it's true.
In middle school, i woud only masturbate a few times a week. Since highschool, it's been around 6-7 times a day.
Is this why ive suddenly become more lethargic throughout highschool?

45/ http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080123033115AApdikY

Very frequent masturbation - a cause for poor memory and concentration?
Hey ppl.....Things were going the right way till i entered my college. I was a 'weekend masturbator' during my school days. But, for the past 2 years i'm very frequently masturbating ( say about 1 or 2 times per day i.e about 7 - 10 times per week).
I feel lethargic. I lack concentration and have very poor memory. Sometimes i fear public speaking or looking at a ferson face to face. Anxiety & depression reduced me to the extent i kept 3 arrears in my college I year(contradictory to my 90% when i passed out from school).
Is it correct to relate these symptoms to masturbation. All over the internet, internet is always said as a habit which is good. But i experience these problems....pls leave your suggestions for me.

46/ http://www.steadyhealth.com/viewtopic.php?p=609156#609156

  I had the same experience but mine just last only about a day to recuperate. I'm 47 yrs old but it's my first time to experience these, last year. I suspect that I've been consuming a lot of fluoride. My periodontist gave me 5000ppm tooth paste after my gum surgery. I used it and never miss. I believed the accumulation of this toothpaste by not rinsing out the fluoride mess up my system, health, etc. You would not believed how many of the foods we eat that are loaded of fluorides. I suggest check your consumption of fluoride, it might be poisoning you. Hope this help!!!

47/ http://forums.menshealth.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/216109121/m/692107331

"Here's my problem, i'm 25, i feel soo tired, no energy( whole bosy is soo weak), after ejaculation and it takes 4 days to recover. if i take vitamines, it takes 2 days. also, my hands and feet feel sweaty, cold and my stomach digesting soo fast. The amount was very little too. now these dyas, i cant drink cold water.My joints have cracking sounds. What's the problem anybody know? i cant focus during work or anything. It has stoping me from getting to know girls. What shoudl i do?"

48/ http://tperkins.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=1520&sid=19452c0c56d3aa44f65012567bfa87fe

"Recently, I have gotten a problem after ejaculation. It seems I loose too much energy after ejaculation that I feel too weak even to do a simple job. I have to take multivitamins and food supplement pills to feel better. This feeling continues till one or two days and then I become normal again. I have ejaculation once a week and that seems to be too much for me. I don’t know what to do. I do sports and feel healthy during the normal days and I have had ejaculations since I was 11. It is a terrible thing for a 26 year old guy. It’s really affecting my normal life I am very worried. Do you have any idea what I should do? Besides I have examined to take food supplement pills for some continuous time but it didn’t cure it."

49/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071104031554AAjkbH2

"What to do i feel lazy and weak after masturbation ?
i am a 16 year old boy
my height is 5"5inches
my weight is 45kgs
suggest me something
i tried to leave this but after 2 days or more
i get involed again "

50/ http://www.doctorndtv.com/FAQ/detailfaq.asp?id=8422

" I am 25 years old and have been masturbating for the past 10 years. After masturbation my head starts paining and this pain lasts for 5 days. I become physically very weak and cannot concentrate on anything be it my work, reading or even driving. My shoulder blades start paining and I cannot sleep sideways. The semen that comes out after masturbation is passed along with stool in the subsequent days. I experience pain in knee joints, hip joints after masturbation. My girth increases by half an inch after every time I masturbate and I also get temporary relief from constipation. My frequency of urination also increases. Please advise."

51/ http://www.youqa.com/mens-health-5/502-mens-health-6.html

"Do masturbation leads to weakness?
i m 15.whenever i masturbate(twice in a month),i feel weakness in my body for 2-3 days.i become staminaless.
my friends also says that masturbation decreases the stamina.is it true?then what should i do? "

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« Reply #222 on: 07/01/2008 13:05:14 »
DRY FINGERTIPS

Does anyone else experience extremely "dried up" (hard to describe) _fingertips_ during POIS period? Thank you.

I have an extremely dry flakey scalp during POIS period.

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« Reply #223 on: 08/01/2008 00:01:05 »
Thanks, Bizzy, your drying scalp during POIS period tells me I'm not alone/crazy. I even went so far as to consult a dermatologist, who confirmed that, indeed, I sometimes get dermatitis on my fingertips during POIS!

Maybe we should change the name to POISon [;D]
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« Reply #224 on: 08/01/2008 00:35:24 »
...I've also noticed that, in a typical post-orgasm day, the symptoms are lessened throughout most of the day, but they increase sharply in the evening, starting around 6 to 8 p.m.

I find the same pattern of increased POIS symptoms late afternoon to early evening.

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« Reply #225 on: 08/01/2008 23:28:43 »
Much has been said here about serotonin and dopamine, and it makes sense. Does anyone have a theory why Levitra works for me? Is there any relationship? As far as I know, Levitra simply improves blood flow. Thank you!

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« Reply #226 on: 09/01/2008 06:20:28 »
I'm glad to have found this post. I have a condition that definately involves the orgasm. Every since I started masturbating as a teenager I've been depressed and been a shy introvert. Before that I was an A student and very active in sports and had alot of friends. I just all of a sudden changed. As I've gotten older (I'm 32 now) I've developed alot of other problems like insomnia, social phobia, nervous ticks around people (like eye burning sensations or light sensitivity sensations in my eyes), nervous talking, neck muscle pain and stiffness, etc. The thing is I find that when I haven't had an orgasm for a while I seem to snap out of it and become happy again and socialable and most of those symptoms just vanish. When I mean for a while like not having an orgasm for about four of five days usually. I'll feel good and confident around people and usually sleep good. I also workout daily and jog so to keep me feeling good and improve my health and physique. However after a few days of no orgasms I become horny (naturally) and eventually start to play with myself until I come and the whole cycle starts over again. The good thing is I can usually have a single orgasm in about a four or five day stretch without much of the symptoms coming back. But often when I give in to masturbate once the horniness lingers on later in the day or night and I masturbate again a couple more times and until all the need is gone. I then develop all these symptons again and it takes days for me to recoup. I definately think that the orgasm combined with my brain chemistry can be proven detrimental in excess or even what is considered the norm in todays world and I really wish there were doctors that could diagnose and treat these problems. SSRI's have again and again proven unsuccesful with me. Seems like serotonin has nothing to do with my problem and only seem to make some of my symptons like insomnia and anxiety even worse.

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« Reply #227 on: 09/01/2008 16:33:08 »
Welcome Tate. I send you the questionnaire. If everyone is ok, maybe should i post our results in a jpeg file ? Clearly some case seems to have no benefits with serotonin rebalance. Which ssri did you test ? Look at agjchs post (page8). Wellbutrin (blocked depression after 4 or 5 ssri failiure ) and DHEA blocked pois symptoms. Compared to ISSM article :
"Dr. Moser suggested success with Buproprion having anti-anxiety properties with no negative effects on sexual functioning."
(Bupropion = Wellbutrin).

Can the moderation send a private message to agjchs ? We really need to know how his recovery is progressing and the role of DHEA on his symptoms.

Hi B_Jim...

No problem at all about posting as a jpeg.

Though there may be an issue if it's a large file depending on how you post it. If you upload it directly then your limited to 128k....if you do it via a photo hosting site then there should be no problem with larger files. We do have cases though where some people access the site from work...in some of these cases the pictures posted as links from photo host sites do not display properly.

Just thought I'd let you know.
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« Reply #228 on: 10/01/2008 16:12:34 »
Much has been said here about serotonin and dopamine, and it makes sense. Does anyone have a theory why Levitra works for me? Is there any relationship? As far as I know, Levitra simply improves blood flow. Thank you!

I think levitra may work by exerting an effect on the pituitary via the hypothalamus. Levitra tells the hypothalamus to send instructions for the manufacture of oxytocin at the pituitary. If the pituitary is busy making oxytocin then it may make less prolactin soon after orgasm. Reduced prolactin means more dopamine and serotonin and so a better brain chemistry.
The so called prolactin inhibitors such as bromocriptine are useless. These medications are of the dopamine agonist class. They keep dopamine receptors switched on with the affect of stopping prolactin. Keeping dopamine receptors switched on can eventually cause serious mental illness such as depression and psychosis.
In my mind theres little doubt that the POIS problem originates at the hypothalamus. A medication that helps better regulate the hypothalamus may provide excellent treatment.
What I have written here needs more research.
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« Reply #229 on: 10/01/2008 23:53:11 »
Much has been said here about serotonin and dopamine, and it makes sense. Does anyone have a theory why Levitra works for me? Is there any relationship? As far as I know, Levitra simply improves blood flow. Thank you!

I think levitra may work by exerting an effect on the pituitary via the hypothalamus. Levitra tells the hypothalamus to send intructions for the manufacture of oxytocin at the pituitary. If the pituitary is busy making oxytocin then it may make less prolactin soon after orgasm. Reduced prolactin means more dopamine and serotonin and so a better brain chemistry.
The so called prolactin inhibitors such as bromocriptine are useless. These medications are of the dopamine agonist class. They keep dopamine receptors switched on with the affect of stopping prolactin. Keeping dopamine receptors switched on can eventually cause serious mental illness such as depression and psychosis.
In my mind theres little doubt that the POIS problem originates at the hypothalamus. A medication that helps better regulate the hypothalamus may provide excellent treatment.
What I have written here needs more research.

FASCINATING, BIZZY! THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

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« Reply #230 on: 11/01/2008 00:32:55 »
DENIAL

Just curious if anyone else has "been in denial" about POIS? For me, even continuing to now, the present - - I could somehow "never believe" this was happening to me. I know it's crazy to do this for 25+ years! But I somehow could never accept/believe it and continued to go through POIS, at many times when it was unecessary to have a release. Each time, I would think "this time it will not happen".....and it does! Always! (except for the current success with Levitra).

Who else here has experienced this?

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« Reply #231 on: 12/01/2008 01:26:30 »
I was never in denial about any POIS. It was more a matter of not knowing that the symptoms were linked and caused by the orgasm. Sure I felt very weak, depressed, psychotic, OCD went through the roof, awarness dropped and muscular weakness. All after an orgasm. But for a large part of my life I didnt know that the orgasm was causing it. The symptoms of POIS, for me, take anything from a few hours to a day to emerge. Over a period of two decades I came to the slow realization that I had a post orgasmic illness. If I not had this illness my life would have been very different. This is a very bad illness and has taken so much away from me. In particular because it affects your mood and changes your personality. You change from a normal person into something else. The simplest way to put it is that you become mentally ill.
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« Reply #232 on: 12/01/2008 21:35:48 »
hi folks.... is it ok for a woman to ask some questions of you men out there...? thanks!

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« Reply #233 on: 13/01/2008 00:00:13 »
Interested, of course, ask away!

Bizzy I agree, mentally ill is a good description.

Denial: I'm sure that accepting that you are mentally ill is difficult for anyone to accept, so denial can be present at times especially when the doctors you are complaining to don't accept that it is real. Much of my life I didn't have a clue what was wrong with me, but when I was in the intensity of the illness there was no denying it, I KNEW. At those (many) times denial would be like cutting your hand off and pretending it is still there. Yet later on when I had "healed" I would once again entertain the idea that it was all in my head somehow, after all how could something so unique and horrible be unheard of? How could there be no tests that would demonstrate what was so obvious to me? So over the years I would flip back and forth, always returning to the firm resolve that there was something seriously wrong with me.

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« Reply #234 on: 13/01/2008 07:22:23 »
More cases :

52/ http://au.answers.yahoo.com/answers2/frontend.php/question?qid=20071220140056AAdnyjE

Why does sex cause tiredness and lightheadedness in men....?
After having sex i usually feel dead tired, and my i usually can't think straight for atleast 2 days afterward, but girand going.I also notice that if i have sex too often it decreases energy level, staminals can just keep going , ability to focus and concentrate, memory etc. Do other guys also experiance this, i find i think best during periods where i have abstained from sex or "autoeroticism" for atleast a month.
has anyone else noticed this...it obviously does not apply to women.
why am i sharing this information on the internet, wtf...who cares.
 think some of you have missunderstood me, i am quite fit, i could easily have sex up tp 10 times per night, but it affects my ability to think clearly and seems to zap my stamina substantially.
 
53/ http://www.luckhealth.com/html/mens-health/20071104/mens-health-3757.html

"How do u feel after you masturbate up to 24-48 hours.
what is your behavior after masturbation up to 24-48 hours.
your mental, physical, behavioral changes please put now only.
I always feel very weak 24-48 hours after masturbation, mentally and physically, which is why I stopped masturbating. This is some information I have gathered on my own:
Loss of semen drastically lowers testosterone levels and slows the metabolism."

54/ http://www.medhelp.org/forums/MensHealth/messages/659.html

Why Do I Feel Drained After Sex?
For at least 1 or 2 days after i ejaculate (sex or masturbation) i feel very drained and tired, and may even get a headache. Is it beacause i'm loosing some important fluids ? what's in ***)? s there a way to replenish quickly or beforehand so I don't feel so bad?
wish I didn't have to limit the number of times I go at it.

55/ http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t24607.html

I came across this forum looking for selegiline experiences and stumbled onto this thread. I had seen that website and many others and have tried several therapies to this phenomenon. The most effective has been abstinence.
My situation may be unique in that I do not need a two-week period of abstinence to feel good/confident/affable and waiting that long does nothing for me. I am normally this way but immediately after ejaculation and for about 24 (give or take about 6) hours afterwards I fall into a deep depression. I can orgasm multiple times without ejaculation but have always ended up ejaculating so I can't say for sure which is responsible for the depression. Working out heavily, increasing my calories and sleeping seems to help me cope to some degree but it is really debilitating. I have found over the years that it is best to stay away from social contact during these times. ......

56/ http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-5016.html

Well, this is very personal and I feel since i am pretty anonymous i can talk about this.
I have masturbated since i was 15, everyday at least, up to 3 times a day. the longest i had gone without doing this was like ,2-3 days. That \'addiction\' continued to dec. 30th (i am 18 now) when i made a new years resolution to quit until college resumed on jan. 6th.
I want to do an experiment to see if masturbation has made me shy and withdrawn. I think this could be a possibility and its been 3 days... one side effect i am noticing is depression, and slight anxiety, more than usual. I usually do get those though.
I also am wondering if masturbation has stunted my physical growth... i am 18 and look 16, physically too (hair growth), maybe younger.
But, I have smoked pot occasionally during ages 15-now, so maybe that has something to do with it. I doubt that, though.
I also wonder if masturbation lowers or raises testosterone?
Thanks in advance for informative replys.
i agree with druid
btw... i felt weird, depressed and anxious when i went without doing it for 4 days... thats all i could take. I will now limit myself to 3 times a week.

57/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic116973.html

What could be causing extreme fatigue and muscle weakness after orgasm?
I understand that men are always tired after sex, but it is more than being tired... It is not a feeling of wanting to go to sleep but feeling physically weak, continuing into the next day or longer. It impairs other cherished activities such as going for a run or working out the next day. This occurs after masturbation and sexual activities with a partner.
Is this abnormal and what could be causing it?
Any answers would be great... this has been very bothersome.

58/ http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080625162212AAUOWg0

After ejaculation I feel sick and dizzy and hot?
More after sex....is there any reasoning to this? ifeel very faint, sick, and dizzy... any help??

59/ http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1727&sid=5c9a9eef35d73b81660668a435aa42c6

been off fin for over a year.

I feel good but when i ejaculate then for about 3 days i have very bad brain fog.


day 3 it lifts and i am fine. if i Ejaculate again same thing happens.
I can plan this over and over and over.,

what the hell??

60/ same website

I have the same problem. Every time I start to feel good/normal I think I can have sex like before. Then when I ejaculate and I hit a wall and the brainfog/bad feelings come back and lasts for about a week.

61/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AhlE0K.Xg4MFu1adnTW2Lg4jzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20080328150941AAsdtUl

How do I get my energy back after mastubating? I masturbate excessively (more than twice each day sometimes).?
I am 100% sure that masturbating two or more times a day will make me extremely extremely tired, and this tiredness will last for at least 36-48 hours after the 2nd or 3rd masturbation. I'm in my early 20's. Sometimes I take a break for 3 or more days and the energy ALWAYS comes back after 36-48 hours.

This tiredness causes come back pain, and sometimes my thighs get so tired that it's very hard to stand up, and I don't feel like thinking. I read that others on the net have this problem. (And the energy decrease is extremely significant, and occurs as a direct result of maturbation.)

MY QUESTION: I don't want people to tell me not to masturbate...but what can I do to either "prevent" future decreases of energy after masturbating ... OR ... what can I do to get my energy back quickly afterwards?

(ps. Sleeping 1 to 2 hours helps sometimes, but I don't have much time. Other answers would be appreciated.)

62/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Al.lzyluzMP17IlmiIsUZ_gjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20080129152024AAJ6ZNi

Does ejaculation actually have any negative effects?
I'm in an on-going debate with someone so I'm trying to find some proof that ejaculation (specifically losing sperm) doesn't lower your life span or make you less intelligent or able to focus. I already know that after men ejaculate that they get tired, but I have serious doubts about it shortening their life or making them unable to focus for days after (as this person is implying). I really believe that it's due to other reasons and an unhealthy life style, not losing sperm.

I haven't found any articles supporting the idea yet. If anyone can find one that proves this as a myth or not that'd be a great way to answer my question.

63/   http://www.mathrubhumi.info/static/health/showAnswer.php?id=417&cat=2&cat_name=

 Dear Doctor My problem is getting very tired next two days after ejaculation or intercourse (after discharging). I feel very tired, lazy, feel sleepy and no interest in my work or sex for few days. But no problem in erection or ejaculation again next day or after. This problem was started from my teenage and I was masterbating very occassionaly only. But it was discharging during night time after every ten or 15 days in my sleep. Now I got married and facing the tiredness problem. I am afraid that I may not be able to satisfy my partner. She is co-operative and giving me strength by words. But how long she can suffer me........please help me doctor......... Why this tiredness comes? Is any problem by discharging semen? Which specialist I have to consult? Is it common phenomena? My friend says that he masterbate allmost all the days. But I can't even think about it............! Malik, U.A.E
Malik Aazam

64/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic43417.html

Hi, i'm new here. I got a couple of masturbation problems. For the past few years, my masturbation sessions are very bland. My orgasms are only enjoyable, if i'm doing it in the shower, have to pee really bad, or horny out of my mind (which is rare), for some strange reasons. Most of the time, my orgasms are very bland, nothing special.

Next problem, just about every time I masturbate, after I come, I feel burnt-out for days, sometimes weeks. Like if I plan on doing something, it wears me down, and I lack motivation. In addition, a lot of times after I masturbate, it takes me days, sometimes weeks to even get back into the mood, to masturbate. I don't mean it takes that long to get turned on again, I mean turned enough to want to mastubate.

Can anyone explain why, or relate, or thoughts? Thanks.

65/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081002063819AAvfb7R

How to remain feeling good and not tired after masturbation?
I always feel guilty after masturbation,but sometimes I do not feel guilty but I'm so tired and lose concentration. How can I prevent from all of this feeling?

66/ https://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/152725/

Ejaculation/ tired for 5 days
   From bronte   on 2008-08-11
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i am 18 year old male. My problem is that when ever i seem to ejaculate i feel tired not juss on that perticular time buh the effects last for about 5-7 days. What i feel is extreme tiredness unmotivation brain fog, untalkitivness, lazy, as if brain not working properly meaning cant answer people correctly (conversation problems). This is how the cycle goes of these problems .The day of ejaculation after which next day feel ok juss a lil tired, lazy and brain fog day 2 it gets worse, day 3 gets better, day 4 gets worse again, day 5starts to get better and about on day 6 i am feeling great i get all my personality back brain fog goes away , iget my sense of humor back i becom social... i have noticed all these rollercoster effects every time i ejacualte ... i ha ve stopped masterbating because of it and now i get wet dreams which i dont wanna have because of this problem.. so plz help me thnx in advance

67/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AkOSaTgjWNWsRN1pWGPfXm8jzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20081129104042AAeIuta

Does orgasm have a negative effect on concentration?
Whenever I masturbate and orgasm, I always feel as though I cannot concentrate afterwards - pretty much for the entire day.
My eyes become tired and have difficulty focusing when reading, and just overall, I become easily distracted.
I have no guilt with masturbation, so it's not psychological like that. However, everytime that I do orgasm, I do notice a significant difficulty in working, that is not present when I do not.

68/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AhGf_YM0S4767tN269KlEcwjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20080427142640AAjfMwh

Headache/migrane ? lack of concentration ? after sex?
by means of a wet dream, masturbation, or anything else results in a lack of concentration. Basically, for 5 to 6 days it becomes extremely difficult to concentrate on anything, I simply cannot sustain a train of thought to think things through. I become extremly absent minded. This makes it difficult to read, hold conversations, follow lectures, take tests, remember things, and learn things. I feel extremly tired and jittery, both physically and mentally. I also become depressed during this time. Its like being totally burned out in the head; much like how people after an epileptic attack are. Also, I get strong headaches after masturbation. Allow me to repeat, these symptoms last 5 to 6 days! So its having a huge affect on my life. I've gone to a neurologist, but he doesn't seem to know whats wrong. He prescribed an ssri, but only because I mentioned I get depression after an orgasm.
If anyone has any idea of what I can do to fix this, or any information at all, please respond

69/ http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/628280

I am a 37 year old male, have had a complete blood work up and all checked out normal.  Here is my problem...every time I have sex after orgasm I get severe cold chill and diarrheas that comes on within minutes of having sex and can last all night.  I have been to doctors and been given stomach pills, viagra etc and nothing works.  It has gotten to the point that my wife and I seldom have sex because it's not worth a night of being sick omeone please tell me I'm not insane and that there is a name for this and better yet a cure!

70/ http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/653913

extreme tiredness after ejaculation
When having intercourse I hold back because if I ejaculate I am basically exhausted all week. Obviously this is affecting my performance. This happens even if I masturbate however if I ever have a wet dream the same response doesnt happen. Help please.

71/ http://www.doctorndtv.com/faq/detailfaq.asp?id=2331

 What causes fever after sex?     
Q. I got married 2 years ago. I have a problem for the last 6 to 7 months. During sexual contact with my wife, as the semen comes out I become very weak. I feel pain in all my veins, bones of legs and hands, a headache and then my body temperature becomes very low so that I have to cover myself with 2 to 3 blankets. After some time i got heavy fever. When I see any sexual things like movies, photos then the semen comes out slowly from the penis. After some time I feel some coolness in my underwear only then I realise it. Please comment.

72/ http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/472100
fever 2 days after having sex
I am 43 years. I always having fever and pains days after have sex with my wife.

73/ http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ab-menopause&tid=1448

Hi, I am 30 years old.  liked to ask, after having sex, I always got a fever, seems like I'm not feeling well. My boyfriend likes to having sex more than an hour, he is quiet hard to get orgasm. What's wrong with my body? Is it normal to having sex as long as we had? ( I was too tired after that:( ). Somebody help me please???

74/ http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1072748

 Is heavy fever,chill,body and leg pain after sex normal?After cuddling  him i feel heavy fever,chill,body,hands or leg pain is this normal?Maybe after some days or next day it happens why?He is alright but i am not why?

75/ http://www.steadyhealth.com/viewtopic.php?p=650970#650970

My boyfriend and I have been together for some time now and decided about a month ago it was time to do some more sexual things since we both felt ready. We have been doing things for about a month now and everything was fine until last night. He felt fine before I started to **** him off but after we had finished, he was really unwell. He felt extremely sick though at the time, he was really enjoying it but afterwards, things just weren't right. He was extremely hot, which is understandable and this can lead to sickness but is that what was wrong? Opinions please....

[The thread has been banned because too old  [:(!]
You can read the google cached link for few time ]

76/ http://www.steadyhealth.com/viewtopic.php?p=650972#650972

sickness after male ejaculation
I feel sick for 8 weeks off and on after ejaculation. It drives me nuts. Any ideas?

77/ http://www.medhelp.org/forums/urology/messages/32047.html

I am a 28 year old male and since last once month I have been experiencing extreme lower thigh and limb muscular weakness and fatigue after ejaculation. Since then I have had deteriorating muscle strength in my legs and increasing fatigue. Earlier I used to feel weak after ejaculation, but I guess that is normal. But these days after ejaculation or masturbation, I feel my mind not being at ease and after a few minutes I start to expericence severe muscular pains and stiffness in my limbs. I'm suffering from extreme fatigue these days. Could it be some kind of harmonal imbalances? I have checked up with my GP for possible causes(any viral infections, thyroid, rheumatoid disorders, gravis, muscle wastage, anxiety & depression disorders) and so far everything has come out normal. I am at loss to find out what is causing this muscular pains in my legs triggered a month ago by ejaculation. The pain is quite similar to being as if I have run on a treadmill all day long. I will be meeting a neurologist next week.

78/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AuxHDMraxQV_xHCcXJUy3l8jzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20070223023352AA45FsQ

Is it healthy or normal?
I'm in the mid 30 yrs old. I feel exhausted and lost my desire for sex for the couple of days after ejaculation. Regardless the ejaculation is from sex or masturbation. Is that normal? When I was younger, I never feel this way.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #235 on: 13/01/2008 10:29:05 »
hi john21, b-jim...

thanks! it isn't actually about me, I do not suffer from this. it is about a friend of mine (male),

not sure how to put this since i am interpreting something that i haven't actually experienced. please bear with me, here goes...

the symptoms seem to be similar to many of the ones described in the various posts. it comes on immediately following orgasm - within a matter of minutes. and lasts for anything up to two weeks, in which time he is really down, and any thoughts about sex fill him with disgust... self-disgust. so he doesn't think about it. avoids any mention of it. he feels really depressed during this time, and has really negative thoughts. over this time it gradually "improves" and he is back to "normal", then the cycle starts again... the only way he has been able to describe it / explain it is like a release of hormones... which seems to correspond to the dompamine, etc. theory.

he has had this for ever, each time, to a greater or less degree. his this self-disgust something others experience? any tips about avoiding it?

thanks a lot!

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #236 on: 13/01/2008 11:32:47 »
More cases :

79/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Anp9mxZbdqFss4H07fFmhOcjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20070921011149AA9L41I

My girlfriend gets too tired after intercourse ???
my girlfriend feels very exhausted and tired after having sex ?? she reach orgasm then I have to leave the intercourse and start massaging her back and shoulder??? I am going to be NUT
ANY BODY HELPS ME

80/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AnH1a3b85wQvPs.8uEIbpSgjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20080723132933AA9Bop9

Masturbation drain body wellness?
I am 34, not married and everytime I do masturbation after that my physique becomes extremely exhausted and my head aches and I experiences brain fatigue. I ended up sleeping for hours to recover and my mood is totally ruined for the day, Why is this?

81/ moderate case, no fatigue (or they don't say)

http://www.steadyhealth.com/Constant_stomach_bloat__headache__abnormal_stool_after_masturbation_t82069.html

Constant stomach bloat, headache, abnormal stool after masturbation

I am 26 year old male and i am having this problem for the last 5 or 6 months.
Well, i am having a constant bloat in my lower abdomen. I have to go to restroom twice daily. Even after that my lower abdomen feels bloated, like something is blocking. If i try harder, my whole head starts to ache a lot. One more thing is, whenever i masturbate, after 15 minutes, the bloating increases a lot, my head fells like its about to burst, and for 2 to 3 days i suffer from diarrohea(its not loose motions, but abnormal stool thats not solid or loose).
Does anyone suffer from the same symptoms. It would really help me if u have suggestions, since this is driving me crazy for a while now. Thanks a lot.

82/ same website

I have these same problems. I feel bloated and have stomach pain
a few days after masturbating and sometimes feel sharp pain near the left kidney (sometimes right). I also sometimes feel pain above (usually left) testicle. This situation started suddenly about a year ago after a day of excessive masturbation (don't laugh;)). From that day I also get similar symptoms after drinking coffee. Is it possible that my bowel got irritable in only 1 day? Because I couldn't find on web any connection between Irritable Bowel Syndrome and sex/masturbation. Can anyone help?

83/  http://www.justanswer.com/questions/177qx-male-masturbate-feel

I am a male and after I masturbate, I feel like I have the flu the next morning, sore throat and tiredness.... (typical flulike POIS)

84/ http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=332030

I believe I have a medical problem related to sexual activity. I feel
awfully tired and unmotivated after I have masturbated. I also feel
more thirsty and hungry on days when I masturbate. And the story
doesn't end there. I have noticed that I become increasingly
vulnerable to disease after I've masturbated. I don't remember a time
when I caught a cold or a flu and I had not masturbated just before
catching it. So Doctor, please let me know how to get rid of this
problem. I have tried stop masturbating but without success. Since I
can't stop it, I would like to have some other remedy for my problem.
Thanks for your time.

Orgasm and Immunity :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/319070.stm


85/ same website

I am very sympathsized with you... as I suffered similar problems +
lower back pain. Went to Urologist and got several check up. Doc
initially think I have prostate enlargement problem, but nothing shown
up at the report. I told my Doc about my problems with excessive
masturbation which I started at 13. My Doc shown signs of disbelif and
laugh it over.

86/ http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-183491.html

Well, when I masturbate, lets say twice before the day I have a tournament(and I havn't done it in 2 weeks), my stamina and focus is decreased. I tried searching about it internet, and found that although, physical stamina remains, mental enthusiasm drains. Some say it is b/c of unneccesary guilt. What do you think?
I guess you are right....but why do we feel weak after ejaculation?

87/ Very light case (or he din't say all symptoms ).
http://forum.santabanta.com/showthread.htm?t=98341

Hello Dear Aunty...
I have read many topics about Masturbation and in every topic i came to know that masturbation has no effect on Health. But i want to Ask a Question that whenever i Masturbate twice a day or after a long Interval i feel Pain in my Back and Knees, so what does it Indicates..

88/ Same case. Maybe shouldn't i add such a light case in our database ? Dunno.
http://www.revolutionhealth.com/forums/relationships/sex-intimacy/109678

    what causes weak knees after sex?

89/ http://doctor.ndtv.com/faq/detailfaq.asp?id=356

After sex I feel very weak resulting in a headache. I do not like to work after having sex because of weakness. I am otherwise healthy.

(i don't copy the answer of the "doctor" because it make me crazy... )

90/ http://askville.amazon.com/Hey-guys-men-making-love-orgasm-make-feel-tired-day-days/DiscussionBoard.do?requestId=17540383&page=1
      
"Hey you guys and men out there, can making love and having an orgasm make men feel really tired the next day... or days?"
I know it's a dumb question. But I'm really naive and clueless regarding this matter. My husband gets really tired the next couple of days. And may I add; his job is really physical!

91/ http://www.justanswer.com/questions/1n64p-really-sick-orgasim-sorry

I get really sick after an orgasim(sorry for the spelling) sometimes after intercourse./ I get dizzy, sick headache what could cause this?

92/ http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/711645


Medical or psychological? Fatigue after ejacluation
Hello Doctor,
I will have him schedule an appt. with a doctor when he has time, but I wonder if this is normal, or physical or psychological ?I am asking on behalf of my boyfriend. Whether masturbating or having intercourse my boyfriend only allows himself to ejaculate only about once a week. He will have an erection, but always stops short of an orgasm. Even daily or semi-daily, but never to the point of  orgasm. The reason for this is that he says that if he has a full orgasm he's extremely tired for days, and he has a demanding job so he needs to be awake for work. To me, it seems strange and unhealthy. He also has depression and fatigue that last days; he has headaches,and it's almost as though he is sickSick sinus syndrome, etc. He is nearly forty years old. I suggest that he practice orgasm more often so that his body is more acclamated to them, such as if he tries masturbating more regularly so that his body doesn't act as though it's going through trauma afterwards. Have you heard of this, or does it sound like a problem? I always thought that men needed to ejaculate more, and that it's even healthy for their prostate gland...

93/ http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/663286

fatigue after ejaculation
hello! i am 17 and i want to clear some confusions. we all feel fatigue after ejaculation, after how many days does one restore his normal body state? over masturbation is not good, if i masturbate today, after how many days is it advisable to masturbate again? thanks

94/ http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/662368

fatigue after ejaculation
hello i am 19,
for about the last 6 mounths every time i have sex or masterbate it seems that my body just collapse. It is almost like my become very week mostly my arms and neak. during sex is when i collapse on top of my partner and dont have the strength to push my self up off her.
i am a very fit person, i weight train 4 days a week for close to 2 hours.

95/ http://www.aznlover.com/vbulletin/mens-issues-topics/25149-does-ejaculation-make-you-feel-shitty.html

Does anyone else feel shitty after they've ejaculated? I mean physically. I don't know how to describe it. I usually start to feel it about 20 minutes after ejaculation and then it gradually increases intensity for about an hour and then gradually an equilibrium is restored and I feel normal again. It's not a religious thing either since I didn't grow up with religion. I'm horny all the time like anyone else and experience the pleasure of orgasm like anyone else but there's something about that weird shitty feeling that holds me back from actually wanting to engage in sex (or masturbation) all the time. I'm in my 40's now and I've felt this way ever since my first ejaculation at 12 years old. But I've never talked about it because no one else ever mentioned it. It's not like an intolerable shittiness either - just a vague discomfort and a gray moodiness (bleh, whatever that means)

I think xqzmi described it perfectly - it is flu like. As a matter of fact about 8 years ago I began noticing getting flu like symptoms the next day - sore throat, fatigue, headaches, etc. I hope it's as simple as vitamin deficiency. I'm going to try taking the B complex and Omega 3 for awhile and see what happens. Thanks xqzmi - you don't know how relieved I am!

96/ http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Fatigue/Archive/FatigueCause/Q90074.html
fatigue and orgasm
Dear Dr.F: I have noticed a change in my "recovery time" after orgasm (specifically as my health started to decline in the late 90's). After orgasm I am wiped out often for days afterward and my mood is no picnic either. I am often moody and irritable with a capital I. I am presently taking testerone supplements and I still experience a surprising level of fatigue after orgasm. I am baffled at the level of fatigue I experience given the relatively short and sweet nature of this event. Do you have any suggestions about this?

97/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic61692.html

Over Masturbating Damage
Hi. I've stimulated myself since I was 12/13 and now i'm almost 20. I havent had a specific patter though it was many times a day in the earlier years. Then I would stop for awhile and go back to it. As of a year or so now i've been trying to quit but have had little success. It's affecting my life and with the college work i'm finding this extremely difficult. I can't focus on my work, I cant remember things, and the easiest of tasks have become extremely hard. I exercise regularly and it doesnt help. Infact I head that its bad to masturbate and exrcise.
I really need to stop damaging my body and find a way to fix what i've done. How bad is the damage from what i've explained? What should my diet be? What can I do? I hate this addiction and want it to go away! My life is in ruins and falling apart more and more each day b/c of it. :(

98/ http://en.allexperts.com/q/Masturbation-1658/2008/8/Masturbation-problems-2.htm

I am a 14 year old male 5 foot 9 inches, 120 pounds. Since I was 11, I have been masturbating about once every day. I'm not sure when, but some time into it, I started to experience constant fatigue and impairment of my concentration and memory skills and developed dark bags under my eyes. At age 13, I cut it down to only about 4-6 times a week but the problems still remained. I'm at 14 now which is 3 years later and I'm wondering what I can do to get back to my normal mental and physical states without involving my parents. Do I need to stop for a few months or what?

99/ http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090101222819AAZEP8Y

After masturbation, what damage of body ?
After masturbation , i felt some sick and tired so much .. What happen after masturbation .. please explain me or advise me ..

100/ http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/577660

masturbation and back ache and weakness

This is Rahul here.I am a 24 year old boy and I have completed graduation and will start working in three months time from now.I'm sorry my mail is lengthy but i think I need to describe my problem in detail.

          At an age of 12 or 13 I started masturbating occasionally.As I grew older ,without knowing its ill effects i started doing it more frequently.In the early stages I used to do it thinking that it would stop my nocturnal emissions.When I was 16,17 & 18 I started feeling very weak after regular masturbation.As a consequence the frequency of nocturnal semen emissions increased further.I was a shy kind of a guy so I could not discuss the problem with my friends.By this time I lost concentration and started performing badly in studies and simultaneously i got used to watching adult fims.This addiction has grown ever since .In the mean time I have consulted various ayurvedic doctors and learnt about the ill effects of masturbating and i have also taken various ayurvedic medicines.The medicines have helped me and i have stopped masturbating but once I watch an adult movie I invariably feel weak and give into masturbation. My physical condition is such that I feel weak all the time and my knees eels weak.I have a lower back ache which increases when i masturbate.My energy level is very low.There is a weakness in my legs also.I have also developed an uneasyness in my head im not sure if its relevant.I want to become a good man and want to be fit when i start working.kindly suggest how will i be able to rejuvenate my body ache and sexual health and gain my childhood energy.will

101/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic8464.html

Can masturbation be source of any kind of sexual weakness.I am 23 and masturbating since I was 15 now I have pain in my back along with stiffness, also I feel I dont get hard-on as I used to


102/ http://doctor.ndtv.com/faq/detailfaq.asp?id=11046
( Only joint pains )

Why do I get knee pain after ejaculation?
I am a 20-year-old bodybuilder. My knee joints hurt usually after I ejaculate. Why is that so? I hear strange cracking noises when I squat. Does ejaculating a lot affect knee joint lubrication? Do heavy weights affect squatting? What can I do to make these sounds and pain go away? Should I limit my masturbation to a month or week? Should I take any joint supplements, even though the doctor has told me that I am too young for Glucosamine? I do need to use heavy weights when training my legs. Please advise.

Doc's answer : The only probable connection between your ejaculation and knee pains might be that the strong muscular contractions of ejaculation can cause some musculoskeletal pains. There is NO other connection.
 [;D] Funny non-scientific answer.

103/ http://www.healthask.net/html/Diseases___Conditions/20070724/I_get_ill_after_sex__Everytime___Itchy_eyes__fatigued__achy_muscles__flushed_ski_11456.html

I get ill after sex. Everytime. Itchy eyes, fatigued, achy muscles, flushed ski


I get ill after sex. Everytime. Itchy eyes, fatigued, achy muscles, flushed ski
It lasts for about 3 days. Sore throat, tight head muscles, oh and right after orgasim, I can tell you exactly where a canker sore will break open in my mouth. Go figure that one out. Its NOT psycological AT ALL, its physiological. Its been going on It lasts for about 3 days. Sore throat, tight head muscles, oh and right after orgasim, I can tell you exactly where a canker sore will break open in my mouth. Go figure that one out. It

104/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic38502.html

Loss of Energy From Ejaculation
I had a question for anyone who can help. I'm a healthy 23yr old male and when I have sex too much with my girlfriend I lose all my energy. I was wondering what I can do to counter that. I eat healthy and I excercise and I don't drink or smoke. What gives? Am I not getting enough of something in my diet that helps make more sperm? I'm lost with this and I love to have sex all the time so this serves to be a considerable problem. Thanks

105/ http://www.healthboards.com/boards/archive/index.php/t-365753.html

Masturbation, feeling sick
Hi! Im an 21 year old boy, and it seems ive got a problem with masturbation:
After doing it, i feel really bad for days, i feel week, have a lot of headaches! and my libido is at 0. Also, the days after ive got a lot more of PVC's (heart related).
Then, if i don't masturbate at all for about a whole week, then i start feeling good, energetic and my libido is up again, and i suffer from much less PVC's.
On Friday ive got an appointment for an Echocardiogram...
Do you think is heart related? or maybe hormones?

106/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic16571.html
Always Feeling Weak After Sex
I've been a married housewife for over 10 yrs now and everytime after sex, my body becomes weak leaving me forced to lay down in bed resting.
If I have sex at night and go to sleep after, the following morning I would be generally weak. I've seen a doctor and had blood tests done and results was all good. I take multivitamins everyday but problem still persists.
My question is, what is this condition called and what can I do about it ?

107/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/feeling-sick-after-orgasm-t137390-a1.html

feeling sick after orgasm
Whenever I have an orgasm, I have issues having a b.m. and I feel sick to my stomach. I also have trouble peeing most of the time. Followed by a migraine. It has been happening for years, I dont have an STD but I am just worried that it may be something more serious, that I have never heard of..

108/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AtAdSzb0D.A8opvlyU4yDkgjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20080730093253AAYXjHH

Is it normal to feel sick after sex? And to even have bowel problems?
Sometimes my stomach is upset after sex. Usually after I eat so I sometimes have to wait a long time after I eat to have sex. And recently after sex I had bowel problems and even had to miss work. Does this happen to other people or should I see a doctor or is it no big deal?

109/ http://www.problempages.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5067&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Feeling sick after sex
I know this is going to sound really strange. I 've been with my partner for over 3 years and recently everytime after sex i feel really ill and sometimes even physically sick. :(

As you can imagine this is worrying both me and my partner, i've been to the doctors and so has he and we're both healthy in all parts of the body. But i cant help but feel absolutely terrible after sex, its really getting me down and i feel as though he might end up getting really annoyed with me and go off with someone else.

Please has anyone ever experienced this? :cry: Or can anyone offer me any advice?

110/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AkKZJ_ROhdoGFPkHwkXishsjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20070703053619AAALQ12

Masturbation sucks energy out of you?
I don't know why everywhere on the internet they say it is healthy,natural,normal......blablabla......
my personal experience taught me that it makes me feel tired, unbalanced, acne, dark spot under the eyes, affects sports....etc.
and it takes so much time to recover to normal full health, i think it takes over 2 months....
the occurrence of wet dreams takes more than 2 months after stop masturbation.
i prefer to forget about it and do something else when i feel horny
aren't wet dreams the natural way instead of masturbation?

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« Reply #237 on: 13/01/2008 12:07:45 »
thanks for getting back so quickly!

no he is on no meds, never has been. he has a major aversion to all things prescribed by doctors or even bought over the counter.

really down as in, the world is a big black hole, he cannot concentrate, cannot work properly, cannot communicate properly, his speech is even slurred now that i come to think of it. certainly cognitively impaired... one time he even forgot his own name! he goes about his daily activities as if in a dream... brain fog i suppose. he really hates himself during this period, I guess. and is paranoid, thinking the world is out to get him, trusting no-one. he is woken at night by these thoughts.

never put it in these terms before, so concisely... seems to make for some kind of mental illness. he is otherwise an intelligent, creative person, although he is immensely insecure, especially during these "pois" episodes if that is what they are.

he has never seen a doctor about it. 

even just writing all this down helps!

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« Reply #238 on: 13/01/2008 13:06:06 »
This does sound similar, perhaps it is POIS. It might do him some good to get involved here and post about his experience. By the way I understand his aversion to meds, I am the same way.  It's great that you are being supportive.


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« Reply #239 on: 13/01/2008 13:23:31 »
hi john

i'll try! thanks.

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« Reply #240 on: 16/01/2008 15:39:47 »
DENIAL

Bizzy and John21, thank you very much for sharing your experiences with denial. It is amazing to read everyone's posts about POIS; it's like reading your own thoughts, feelings and actions!

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« Reply #241 on: 19/01/2008 07:47:26 »
thanks for getting back so quickly!

no he is on no meds, never has been. he has a major aversion to all things prescribed by doctors or even bought over the counter.

really down as in, the world is a big black hole, he cannot concentrate, cannot work properly, cannot communicate properly, his speech is even slurred now that i come to think of it. certainly cognitively impaired... one time he even forgot his own name! he goes about his daily activities as if in a dream... brain fog i suppose. he really hates himself during this period, I guess. and is paranoid, thinking the world is out to get him, trusting no-one. he is woken at night by these thoughts.

never put it in these terms before, so concisely... seems to make for some kind of mental illness. he is otherwise an intelligent, creative person, although he is immensely insecure, especially during these "pois" episodes if that is what they are.

he has never seen a doctor about it. 

even just writing all this down helps!

Classifies as POIS for me.

For externally noticing things wrong. Does he drop things like glasses? Does he fall down the stairs? Does he bump or cut himself more easily?

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« Reply #242 on: 19/01/2008 17:15:17 »
Classifies as POIS for me.

For externally noticing things wrong. Does he drop things like glasses? Does he fall down the stairs? Does he bump or cut himself more easily?

hi imre1

good questions! shall have to observe that... not sure off the top of my head...

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« Reply #243 on: 21/01/2008 17:04:56 »
Thank god.  I can't believe I found this thread.  For the last few years I've had the EXACT same symptoms described here. 

After orgasm;
fatigue especially in legs, flushing, depression, fuzzy thinking, tired to point of feeling fluish, insomnia, sore throat, emotionally sensitive... that improves after a day or two.  Protein bars seem to help but it may just be the sugar content?   I also drink lots of organic milk and I thought I read in a post that someone improved after cutting out milk. 

I few years ago I took amino acids for thyroid support, way too much, and that is when my POIS started.  I probably burned out my thyroid by accident.  I also masturbated lots when younger.  Hmmm.  My symptoms are much worse when I masturbate as opposed to wet dreams...could be emotional response then to being alone??

10mgs Paxil nightly to help sleep.
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« Reply #244 on: 21/01/2008 21:10:08 »
HELLO EVERYBODY! I'M 22 AND I HAVE SIMILAR CONDITION LIKE YOU GUYS, I DISCOVERED IT LAST SPRING BUT NOW I KNOW HOW TO MANAGE IT. WE "FORGET" TO BREATHE PEOPLE. WE NEED TO BREATHE PROPERLY TO CREATE ENERGY FOR LIFE. AFTER YOU HAVE AN ORGASM, TRY TO MAINTAIN YOUR BRATHING RYTHM, BREATHE WITH YOUR STOMACH, AND MAKE IT A HABBIT TO BREATHE ALL THE TIME PROPERLY, NOT WITH SHORT BRATHS, AND YOU'LL SEE HOW MUCH MORE ALIVE YOU'LL FEEL. GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY!

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« Reply #245 on: 21/01/2008 21:24:59 »
El Stonio,

Did you get my reply to your PM? I hit "Send message" and nothing seemed to happen, so I tried it again and got the same result. You had asked me if DHEA still helps - yes, it does.  It's funny that I got your message today because just this morning I was reading articles on the 'net about studies showing that people are being treated for depression with 30mg-90mg daily doses of DHEA (an endocrinologist I consulted said I could safely take 25mg-50mg daily).

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« Reply #246 on: 21/01/2008 22:09:58 »
111/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Am31DyM_OlhLgQFwvOZXlOQjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=1006053019202

Does masturbation make the body weak?
My 17 year old friend told me that before he would masturbate up to 4 times a day. He would do it when he felt the need to do it. After masturbating, his body would feel with weak. When he would go out to do a workout (he's in track) his body would feel tired even before the real workout started . At school he would be very sleepy since according to him he masturbated in the morning. Now he stopped and his body never feels weak anymore and he feels with more enery and feels great on those workouts for track. He also doesn't get sleepy during school. I kinda agree with him because i feel the same way as well but I don't know.I feel better when I don't masturbate my body is just more energized for some reason. Any comments or ideas on if this could be true.

112/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjK58MBKtxY1hEIkuEC.g7UjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20080520173114AAFmrkS

Masturbation vs dark circles?
is there a relation between masturbation and forming dark circles? i am 29, male and i am not married. i am masturbating nowadays so frequently. i have been observing that if i masturbate once in a day and 3 days continously, i am seeing that my eyes going inside and looking awful and feel tired. is there anything suggested to do after masturbation so that it doesnt give bad effects like said above. just for the confirmation if i stop masturbating for 10 days, my eyes tend to look normal and energetic. any advice?

113/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AkX7qPmE1ciu1pMKmKSGcTcjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20060622121310AA4DQoq

Im 21, im masturbating frm 18 at 5days/week, is there any sexual disorder in doing so, often i feel tired.....
im male, often i feel tired after doing masturbation....
because of this im not able to concentrate my studies....
whenever i switch on my computer or tv my mind intend to watch on some porn movies.... and finally i masturbate and sleep...

Pls help me how to get rid of this problem....

114/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic20055.html

Can a Person Be Allergic to Orgams? I Know, Sounds Wierd..

Just wondering if i'm alone in this experience. I feel like a freak.
None of my girlfriends have this problem.
Do any of you get red sore eyes and blue black circles under your eyes after an orgasm?
I always do and it can last the entire day. Its just like an allergy!
This has happened with past lovers, and my hubby.
My eyes are in good health otherwise, I just had them checked, I don't need glasses, i've lived in both dry and humid climates.
It doesn't matter what kind of orgasm I have either, you know, hard, easy, multiple, light, mind-blowing, ho- hum, etc.
Also does anyone have any remedies to this problem?
I literally have to wear 2 different types of eye concealers to hide, what looks like a black eye, (people have actually asked me who decked me can you believe it!) and after an orgasm I have to wear sunglasses due to the soreness.
Please, if you know anything or if you have this too, please let me know.

115/ http://en.allexperts.com/q/Male-Masturbation-3326/2008/2/Masturbation-10.htm

I've been masturbating since I was 13 and now nearly 20. I now masturbate more than usual. I think the max I've pulled off this year is 7-8 orgasms in a day. I masturbate around 4 times a day otherwise. I've been having a problem where I get very tired after masturbating. Get big circles under my eyes straight away after the high and everyone says I look tired all the time. I feel tired also. I get headaches all the time and feel lower back pain. I am very short something I've found with people who overmasturbate. Is there any way to reverse the effects of overmasturbation? I know it definitely has done damage to my body. Is there anything that can relieve my body of overmasturbation? Vitamin pills....etc?? I see that masturbation changes your body chemical/hormonal balance completely and depletes your testosterone levels so when you try build muscle  you can't. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Back pain, tired and the black circles... :) Signs of adrenal weakness ?

116/ http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/690376

not feel good after masturbation
I am 29 years old male and our culture is not to have a girl friend before marriage. But i enjoyed through masturbation but i feel pain in my body specially in my knee and very tired. What should I do to be healthy, active and get rid of pain in my body after masturbation. Some special diet or some medicine.
I shall be very thankful to you for your kind reply.????

117/ http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1070456

What r the reasons of feeling fatigue,chill,fever,leg pain after sex and during sex i feel pain also why?Do i have germs or bacteria?Headache and leg pain is very common.Next day or after some days of sex i feel very heavy fever and pain.

118/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070721002307AA7toXq

What is the relation between sex orgasm & the knee/leg pain after sex?
* I feel pain in my knees & thighs (like I waked for 10 miles) after having sex.
** I think the amount of pain is proportional to the amount or degree of orgasm gained!

119/ http://www.steadyhealth.com/pain_in_knees_and_legs_during_after_masturbating_t75976.html

pain in knees and legs during/after masturbating
My legs start paining after 15-20 mins of being erect while stroking lightly. After ejaculating my legs keep paining and I feel week all night and a day. I tend to masturbate ~5 nights/week. Could this be due to a little to much masturbation or should I see a doc for some tests?

120/ http://www.steadyhealth.com/pain_in_legs_after_sex_t102906.html

Hi, i'm married man and 37 years old. now if i have sex with my partner after 1 week only 1 time then i feel ok but if i have sex next day then i feel stress and pain in my both legs. it's like i have some kind of weakness in my legs. this pain goes after some hours. Don't know , what treatment i need? please help me for any kind of medication. Also i can perform sex more then 1 time in one section.
Kind Regards

121/ http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/608428

Knee and lower leg pain after Sex
I am 34 years old man for the last one year i was feeling pain and dryness on my lower knee and legs ,when ever i have sex  and even normal ejaculation I  experienced  rashes on my lower under knee , i have not STD history and my entire health is ok ,but i have sever allargic to some medcines and feel when it is cold  itches on  some parts of my body specially on the abdomen.
what i am wodering is what is this pain and dryness after sex and ejaculation and alos lack of sleep may happpen some nights and headaches

122/ http://en.allexperts.com/q/Urology-Male-issues-989/post-ejaculatory-symptoms.htm

post ejaculatory symptoms
I am a 52 yr old male. At age 32, I had left epididymitis, which resulted in atrophy of the L testicle. The testicle does not seem to have changed recently.I have been treated for prostatis periodically since that episode.

My current issue involves post- ejaculatory pain & other symptoms. For the past 8 months, I have experienced the following Sx for 5-7 days after ejaculation:
- frequency, dysuria, hesitancy, nocturia
- low grade pain in pelvic area & left testicle.(3-5 on
 a scale of 10)
- low grade nausea
- night sweats, low grade fever
- malaise
- urethral and bladder tenderness to palpation
- at times, the whole pelvis area feels "on fire"

The symptoms seem to resolve after 7-10 days.
I have been through a 30 day course of Levaquin, as well as Flomax. The symptoms resolved by 80% while on the antibiotic, but have since returned. I remain on the Flomax.

This may not be related, but (through a process of elimination) I have found that the symptoms are exacerbated by NSAIDS and aspirin. I have L3-S2 epidural injections for lower back pain q 4-6 months.

CBC is normal, TSH is normal, PSA is low, UA shows a few WBCs, significant RBCs, and epithelial cells. I have been monogamous for 35 years, and RPR/VDRL are neg.

123/  http://ehealthforum.com/health/uneasy-after-masturbating-t170796.html

hi doctor
every night i will do masturbating /shagging/self-satisfaction.

next day when i wake up, for entire day, i feel uneasy, laziness and some kind unhealthy condition, i do not feel to work because of this...what is the reason for this?

124/ http://boards.webmd.com/webx?THD@@.89751933!thdchild=.89751933

Lower back pain after ejaculation
Hello. I am a 25 year old male. My girlfriend left me a few months ago , so I have been masturbating a lot recently. Anyways, I have been ejaculating 2-3 times a week. And my lower back tends to ache afterwards. Anyone know why this is? Am I not getting enough exercise? This has never happened before. My penis gets sore after ejaculating a lot, but never my back. Thanks for your help.

125/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081209220515AARNK1M

Does Ejaculation Reduce The Immune System?
I notice that everytime I ejaculate more than twice a day I tend to get flu in the next morning. So is there any medical explanation for this? I mean you know the sperm contains substances such as protein so if we throw them away a lot then maybe ... you get my point.
Additional Details
Im not saying it slowly kills you. All Im saying is that if we ejaculate too often without some time to replenish it then it will have some effect on our immune system.

126/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080523201037AAEEGLp

My knees and feet go cold after ejaculation?
i always feel something(maybe its cartillege)is coming up from my knees and at the point of ejaculation......i also have a problem of series of cracking sounds from my knees when they r bent..and sometimes when i was about to ejaculate my knees and feet go cold after the release and relaxation.what does that mean...?

127/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AqNNW0.TsPAlCxTeD_XqZTYjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20080913105952AAUObey

 Hi, why do i always feel so cold and weak after ejaculation and so often end up catching a cold ?? ?
tks for replies, i only feel cold and even sometimes close to shivering after i ejaculate, i have went without ejaculating for a period of time and during this i never got a cold so allergies is not the problem, any help much appreciated tks

128/ http://www.consultation.ayurvediccure.com/what-are-the-natural-treatments-for-the-weakness-after-masturbation-or-sex/comment-page-1/

What are the natural treatments for the weakness after masturbation or sex?
Sir, I am 21 and I wanted to know that whenever I feel sex  , I take out sperm from my penis or I masturbate. After some time of this, I feel very weak and my head and eye began to pain.Sometimes I suffer from cold. So please help me!

129/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/pain-in-knee-after-ejaculation-t175020.html
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Pain in knee after ejaculation
every time after ejaculation by the other day I begin feelin a horrible pain in my lwft knee. by the way I masterbate aproximetly every 3 days or more

I need consultation.

130/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090201211153AAjUMe0

I ejaculate alot/too much..... knee pain bladder pain stomach pain?
hello im 19 years old and i have been ejaculating ever since i was 15. and from 15 up until 18 i ejaculated mostly everyday or atleast every other day... now its 3 times a week... and now i have aot of pains like bladder pain stomach pain and ive gotten so skinny... and also i get sick after ejculating now.... so my question is- is all this happening bcause of ejacultating? and will i not be abe to father children later on in life? and will i not erect anymore?

131/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/masturbation-side-effects-t173398.html

I think i also feel weak after the wet dream or masturbation. I also feel mental weakness, concentration weakness, lack of confidence, lack of energy.
Please tell me how to stop wet dreams without masturbating. I don't want wet dreams as these affect my work and want to get rid of them.
Please help.
Any suggestion would be helpful.
Thanks.

132/ same page

Masturbation side effects ?
asked by: DoctorQuestion on March 8th, 2009
Due to too much Masterbation, I feeling memory weakness,Concentration weakness,depression,low energy level and lack of confidance.
plz tell me the solution.

133/  http://ehealthforum.com/health/damage-of-masterbation-t175159.html

I have been masterbating regularly since the age of 12. The frequency at which I was masterbating on some days was 4 - 5 times. As I reached the age of 18 this slowed down but I was still masterbating every few days.
I am now 26 and for the last few years I have noticed physical weakness in my legs. At times I feel weakness when I clench my fists. There is also rapid muscle movement in my thigh, fingers, big toes etc - not all the time, every so often. My semen has lightened so much and I have noticed that my Penis whilst resting is becoming more and more floppy. I can still get a full erection but I end up ejaculating within a minute or so. I cannot seem to last a long time. After masterbation I get a burning sensation which lasts a long time on either side of my abdomen and this is becoming the norm. I am trying really hard to stop to the point where I go on for a couple of weeks and then give in to masterbation again.
I've had a general checkup with my GP and all seems fine. I've told GP of the symptoms (but did not mention the masterbation) and after thoroughly checking me out as well as referring me to a neurologist - they could not find anything wrong with me. This then leads me to think it has to be the masterbation. I just don't know what to make of this anymore!

134/  http://boards.webmd.com/webx?THDX@@.89b8d214!thdchild=.89b8d214
 Foggy Headed after ejaculation
After I ejaculate I feel foggy headed and a loss of energy for about day. I feel normal again after a good night sleep. I have had this condition for many years. I am now 45. Right after I ejaculate I feel as if a chemical being released in my body that travels and pools in my brain, thus causing my foggy head. I feel tired, irritable, and a lack of desire to do anything for that day. Any idea as to my condition and cure?

135/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090225090149AASvHmT
Why do orgasms make me sneeze?
Lately, every time I ejaculate, I get stuffy headed and start sneezing. My nose gets stopped up, and I have all the symptoms of allergy or hay fever. This lasts maybe 30 min. to an hour, basically a/b the same amount of time it otherwise takes me to get sexually stimulated again, after an orgasm. I've heard that male ejaculation promotes histamine release, but have never seen any evidence that it was sufficient to cause this. Ideas?

136/ http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Undiagnosed-Symptoms/Contiunes-Fever-acne-headache-and-fatigue-after-sexual-activity/show/770679

Contiunes Fever,acne,headache and fatigue after sexual activity

Sir,i am experiencing heavy fever, fatigue,pain,acne on face problem from many months atleast from 6 to 20 months.
I think that i may have std or sti What do u think that i may have std's or not?This
fever nd fatigue remains constant 24 hours a day and it's very difficult to work and learn.Acne which returns within some days if i do not eat tablets.Actually,i had gay boy friend and we had sex alot.i have ****** him alot and i'm telling u all this so that it will be easily to know that what is my problem?whenever i ****** him my problem increases but he's alright.He has no problem and i have many problems.Do u think that i should not do more sex as my condition is bad?My eyesight has also become more weak then previous times.How can i get rid from this fever and fatigue?is this general disease or std's?What's this?

137/ http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1096067

Is heavy fever,chill,pain normal after sex?I'm feeling daily fever,chill,pain after cuddling  him.When i had fucked him 4 times i was all right but now i have fucked him 7 to 13 times and i have fever or chill or pain problem.He is all right but i'm not why


138/ http://boards.webmd.com/webx?THDX@@.89b8d214!thdchild=.89b8d214

Foggy Headed after ejaculation
After I ejaculate I feel foggy headed and a loss of energy for about day. I feel normal again after a good night sleep. I have had this condition for many years. I am now 45. Right after I ejaculate I feel as if a chemical being released in my body that travels and pools in my brain, thus causing my foggy head. I feel tired, irritable, and a lack of desire to do anything for that day. Any idea as to my condition and cure?

139/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/back-pain-after-intercourse-t185725.html

Hi I am a married 52m, I get a back pain after a couple of hours after intercourse, which does not affect my appetitute at time, but when I do to sleep I get teeth clenching with no noise and I wake up with my chins hurting me. I also wake up with bad appetite and i rather not eat, if i did eat something i will nearly throw up,I feel tired and internal muscles contracted.The situation continues througout the day and I hardly eat, the next day i am normal again.Pls explain what is going on and advise.
Many thanks in advance.

140/  http://boards.webmd.com/webx?THDX@@.89dc7ab9!thdchild=.89dc7ab9

I have a rare problem after ejaculation. For several days after I have a sort of allergy attack to my own body chemistry. Ejaculation is fine with the normal stress relief and pleasure for about an hour. Then I begin to have muscle tightness throughout my entire body, especially my neck. I do not sleep well for several days, have night seats and am very irritable during the days. I do have fibromyalgia and this makes the symptoms 5 times worse. My ex wife had severe PMS and I've got to say my mood swings are similar. This problem is getting worse with time to the point where I am abstaining from giving myself pleasure of ejaculation because I feel awful for as long as 8 days. I have been to several specialists but with no answer. My hormone level is normal. I treat these side effects with nitrazapam but that just allows me to function. This problem also gives me high anxiety and confusion. Does anyone else have a similar problem and does anyone have suggestions.

141/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080605153144AAsPPeM

Fever after Sex?
After having sex with my girlfriend she always get a fever after 2 days
I did all STD tests And Nothing came up
She did too Any ideas??
 
142/ http://answers.eyje.com/infectious-diseases-open-question-constant-low-grade-fever-after-sex/

Constant low grade fever after sex?

Hi I am 24 year male. I am facing very serious problem. I had a constant low grade fever after sex and also having right side testicle pain. I did sex with a girl before 6 months ago and i had a low grade fever from last 6 months. Any body can tell me plz what infection I have?? Doctors not able to help me..
and i am also having sole burning problem.

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #247 on: 21/01/2008 22:23:24 »
agjchs, I am curious to know how old you are. I have read that you shouldn't take DHEA under a certain age.

nickthegr8, I have heard that breating properly can assist greatly with anxiety problems, as some people get so anxious they lock up and unknowingly stop breathing easy. I can't see any connection to POIS though. Are you saying that your POIS symptoms went away after learning how to maintain your breathing?

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #248 on: 22/01/2008 21:54:38 »
Thank god.  I can't believe I found this thread.  For the last few years I've had the EXACT same symptoms described here. 

El Stonio, welcome and thank you for sharing your experience. I agree, THIS PLACE IS A MIRACLE!!

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #249 on: 22/01/2008 22:04:45 »
TESTOSTERONE SUBSTITUTE?

I recently stopped testosterone injections, 1) it didn't help POIS and 2) it's a pain in the neck running to nurses every 2 weeks and 3) it's controversial - some say it's dangerous, can lead to prostate cancer, so constant monitoring is not fun.

Does anyone have any suggestions about helping a flagging libido without testosterone? Thanks!