[demografx]

LEVITRA Continued

I took Levitra _after_ release this morning, and I feel my usual 75% cure of POIS symptoms. And just knowing I have a place to report this (here!) helps a lot.

[pdawg]

thank you all for the welcome!
after looking at the symptoms, I realized mine is not that bad at all..
I really feel for John..
it's so weird, this condition..right?
embarrassing too..but good thing we have each other
let's help each other and come up with solutions
since my symptoms are getting worse (wasn't annoying enough for me to really look for solutions until now), I will try to look for solutions and try different stuff too.
if I succeed, or fail, I will let you guys know..
One more thing, if you have similar symptoms like mine (mainly diarrhea 30-60 minutes after sex) please let me know..I wanna know who has this particular condition so we can help each other out..I know I saw it somewhere a couple of times.
be healthy

[solution]

My conclusions
Diarrhea or strong desire to empty bowel
It happens only if the bowel has been filled
Very likely caused by an imbalance of bacteria in the bowel suddenly
An imbalance that could be because some part of the bowel bacteria is attacked by any substance segregated in the gut during an orgasm

[nopoison]

Hey Neil, sorry for any misunderstanding. I`ve already added a link back to this thread - The only thing I`d like to do is to create a place where people can provide info on POIS and look for it easier than on this forum. my only intention is to help myself and people who suffer from POIS!

I think, that this thread is so vivid that it could be quite valuable to create some kind of archive that would collect most important data.

If I can do anything to integrate more seamlessly with this place - just let me know.

Cheers,
James  [O8)]

[demografx]

It is such a relief! Once again, my Levitra worked....even taking it after the release. 25+++ year-struggle. Giant, giant effect on my whole life.

But even with only 25% of the POIS intensity, it is still agonizing.

It seems like such a cruel malady, to always have the dark cloud of release - which is natural and universal in man - hanging over our heads.

The posting and reading here, though, has really helped a great deal.

[imre1]

Some other symptoms that I experience (5-10% of the time) are weird noise in my ears, headache and dizziness.

Well, I have been having it very bad lately. And the idea that it is all caused by problems in the stomach area is beginning to make a lot of sense now.

[hk1979]

I suggest the people with diarhea start taking Prebiotics, Probiotics supplements as soon as they can. It is to cause healthy intestine. Also the Rye Bread is great! thanks solution I tried it, been taking one each day now.

demografx: no I am not a scientist I am a telecommunications engineer, but in the last year and a half I decided I will not rest until I find a cure, because things were getting worse, not better, and I had to make plans.

BTW you say you take Levitra only afterwards? So you are taking it not for the erection but only for POIS. But do you still get a healthy erection?

[hk1979]

demografx: you can also sound like a scientist if you read through this site: http://www.nutros.com/ [nofollow] :-)  best site i've seen on the net regarding health.

[cdma77]

Hi,

I suffer some a lot of the same problems.  I am 41 yrs old and I have had this in some form for 19 yrs. I get:

Night sweats
Fatigue
Confusion
Insommonia
Nausea, lack of appititte
No drive to do anything
Irritable
Depression
Flu like symtoms

I take Androgel because of my low testosterone level, but it doesn't help this problem.  I also suffred form a bout of Prostitis.  My doctor said it may due to my lack of ejaculations.  His solution was for me to ejaculate more !:(

I see some people using Levitra, but why ?  I don't suffer from ED, but I tempted to lie just to get a sample if it helps.

I also suffer from nocturnal emissions once a weak which makes this problem worse.

I am tempted to try DHEA and get some Levitra.

Jeff

[demografx]

LEVITRA

Jeff, I'd like to repeat the warning that Levitra can _posibly_ cause heart problems for those who don't have ED! (unverified source but worth checking out and working closely with your doctor...not only for this but ANY "recommendation" on this Forum - we don't all have the same chemical reactions!). Levitra affects blood flow.

Jeff, don't lie to your doctor! It's not worth the risk! Look at www.levitra.com and do some Google work with "risks".

hk1979, NO, I began taking Levitra strictly for ED (the POIS "cure" was an accidental discovery - which I might not have noticed were it not for being involved in this Forum...I might have simply thought I found a "reprieve" for unknown reasons) _before sex_, but this last time I forgot, so yes the erection was weak but i released anyway (boy, does this feel personal! []) - and then took Levitra afterwards in the hope that it would work on POIS anyway. It did. One other time previously the same thing occurred and it worked by taking it afterwards again. Not as well as taking it beforehand but still very powerful. Don't ask me why!

By the way, my psychiatrist then suggested Cialis (he gave me a sample), a similar drug but longer lasting so he thought it might help POIS even more...but it was a DISASTER! (It didn't work at all, so the disapointment was very intense).

hk1979, congratulations on your persistence and determination! This POIS-garbage is an evil anomaly. It's hurt a big chunk of my life for 25+++ years that's for sure. And, I'm sure, the lives of many others.

[cdma77]

Demografx,

I was wondering what meds you take in addition to Levitra?  I am taking Effexor for depression, however it doesn't do much plus that fact in raised my bp now I have to take bp medication.  You said something like Addderal and Symbalta.  I am wondering if I should try something else if it is really like serotonin re uptake that needs to be blocked.  Any ideas?  I have talked to my doctor about the POIS since I am sure they would say that this problem is nonsense.

[demografx]

I'm on Cymbalta and Adderall, for depression and adhd respectively, but the Adderall has done wonders for my depression. From what I understand, everyone is different and it might take several tries before the right formula is found for you. Be as patient as possible, I know it's hard. I'm impatient myself.

[Bizzy]

Hi Demografx

How did you find the Cialis for erections. Can you explain in more detail how it was a disaster for POIS ?

[demografx]

Bizzy,


It just didn't work. At all. The "disaster" was my expectation that it would work BETTER than Levitra and the resulting disappointment on top of the usual POIS agony.

[hk1979]

demografx thanks for explaining :-) we need to get to the bottom of the fact that Levitra works. I do not have ED, but it doesn't go as large as it used to be :-) but it is not a good enough reason for the doctor to give me Levitra. So we need to find out what Levitra has that helps with this problem after sex.

B_Jim and solution > altough this is a link more related to muscle building, it is a really good read about what all the things are that can help resuce cortisol:

http://www.leehayward.com/cortisol.htm [nofollow]

I still strongly believe that POIS is related to cortisol, and by following a diet where cortisol is eliminated, I am sure the effects of POIS will be dampened.

If anyone knows if there is a relationship with cortisol to Levitra, please let me know.

Thanks

[pyropeach]

Hello all,

I don't wish to be rude and bud in unexpectedly, but I was referred to this forum because it seems I have a particular version of POIS.  After so many years of hell with this problem, I'm willing to do almost anything to find a solution.

I'm 21, light (124lbs), and extremely fit. The problem is after ejaculation by means of a wet dream or masturbation results in a lack of concentration (brain fog), poor memory, confusion, and fatigue. Basically, for 5 to 6 days it becomes extremely difficult to concentrate on anything, I simply cannot sustain a train of thought to think things through. I become extremely absent minded to the point where I forget I'm holding something in my hand causing me to drop it. Its extremely difficult to read, hold conversations, follow lectures, take tests, remember things, and learn things. I feel extremely tired and jittery, both physically and mentally. I also become depressed during this time. Its like being totally burned out in the head; much like how people after an epileptic attack are. Also, I get strong headaches after masturbation. Allow me to repeat, these symptoms last 5 to 6 days! So its having a huge affect on my life. I've gone to a neurologist, but he doesn't seem to know whats wrong. He prescribed an ssri, but only because I mentioned I get depression after an orgasm.  I've gone through extensive blood tests for neurotransmitter levels, hormone levels, and so forth, but all results showed up normal, with the exception of prolactin being slightly high.  Overall, it doesn't seem like the doctors around me are willing help.  All five doctors I've seen are totally baffled.

So far L-phenylalanine and L-tyrosine supplements help a little bit with recovering quicker, as well as using sleeping pills to get as much energy as I can out of sleeping.

These supplements are, as I've come to discover, the precursors of dophamine, which may be being inhibited for an extended period of time by a small growth on my pituitary that secretes an excess of prolactin.  My guess is artificially increasing dophamin will inhibit the excess prolactin and restore some of my concentration.

[John21 (OP)]

Pyropeach, welcome. Your condition sounds similar to mine and many others here. I tried l-tyrosine recently and I did not have any POIS symptoms at all, but I did feel mentally off in a non-POIS way, perhaps 500mg was too much I don't know. I hope you can get off sleeping pills soon, as they are not good to take, as your body will get dependent on them. I have chronic insomnia and I am glad that I was able to stop sleeping pills, which I was on for years. I was also on Paxil, same story as you my doc thought my problems were based on a depression. I am glad I am off those meds as well.

Relora has been suggested in this forum based on the theory of a PIOS/cortisol connection. I tried Relora last week, I had two 250mg pills on Saturday and one on Sunday and man did I feel drugged... it had a profound effect on me, way too powerful. I'm not sure if it can be beneficial to me yet, it I ever try it again I will use big time caution (small amounts). I am still waiting for my sleep to re-regulate after trying the Relora, it messed it up pretty good.

Excessive prolactin, interesting theory. I once considered that low levels might be of influence... I will have to learn more about this hormone.

 

[pdawg]

Guys, I have good news..
as hk1979 (thanks again) said,
people with diarrhea symptom after ejaculation need to take probiotics ASAP!
there are many and consult your pharmacist for better answer but there is one on amazon

newbielink:http://www.amazon.com/Primadophilus-Bifidus-Adult-90-Caps/dp/B00068G5OG/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1207776873&sr=8-1 [nonactive]

might not be the best one out there so go to your local pharmacy

no more diarrhea after orgasm!
the cause was weak intestines and i guess not enough bacteria in my gut flora
i still get a mild irritation in my bowels, farts and stuff, but still
also got a light headache once in like 6 times, so that's good
go to the pharmacy, gogogo
ask for bifidobacterium ( newbielink:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifidus [nonactive])

[nopoison]

hello, while searching for more info on POIS I came across many sites that treat about 'sexual exhaustion' - which I believe is something very similar (if not itself) to POIS.

check out this forum and share your opinion, most symptoms seems very familiar: http://recover.forumup.org/ [nofollow]

you are always welcome to check http://nopoison.ning.com [nofollow] for more info,

stay tuned - work in progress

[Netherlands2008]

I am from the Netherlands, so my english is not perfect! I have also POIS. I also visited Dr Waldinger in Leyenburg in Den Haag Netherlands. He told me i had POIS. We made an appointment that he would send me to an other Doctor to do a test. You had to give sperm and then you could see the results. Afer this visit i never hearded about this anymore. I tried to call him, but he was always away (seminars netherlands/other countries). He did not have a secretary in hospital Leyenburg, but i spoke some other secretary. They said he did not have a secretary so she would drop a note in his box. You understand i never heard anything! So i did call again....same story and again she would drop a note. Again i did not hear anything.
But anyhow i know now what i have....POIS. I did have it from my 17 till now mid 40! Because i did have it so early i did get used to it and i managed to have normal sex live (boys do not ejaculate always...only when it is so special that.... for me it is working!) Nevertheless i have periods ..month's that i am extreme sensible to POIS, but many other month's, because of my new way of seeing to have sex and ejaculations, i can have normal sex live.
About Dr Waldinger i still think he is a serious guy ! but i think he is also teacher at an University and neuropsychiater, always searching for new sexual deseases to explore..... He is always on his way ..travelling/seminars etc etc. I do not think he has solutions! and we who have POIS are here not many on earth, so we are not commercial interesting!
best regards from Holland.