[devastated]

Thank you John21 & demografx for all the precious info and links. I'll study them carefully.

demografx: I've lived in England for over 5 years ;-)

[demografx]

THISFORUMROCKS, thank you for all your input above on funding and research! I was frankly getting worried that we don't have a solid interest here in working together to get help. Please, everyone, don't take it wrong but it seems like there's been very little input on the questions I've raised and the volunteering that's needed to go forward. Items such as building our email contact list, WHO, NORD, etc.

Tell me I'm wrong! It's honestly been a little difficult forging ahead solo. I was shot down by a major university for researching POIS (the same people who are treating me successfully), very little to no feedback from others here about NORD, the AACE President doesn't return my calls or emails, WHO is maddeningly, bureaucratically slow as molasses,  Martin has been the only one to add to our contact list besides me, and POIS pioneers/researchers Drs Waldinger and Schwartz have been largely unresponsive, as have the authors of the textbook, "The Science of Orgasm", one who is affiliated with a research lab that could really help. Our inability to offer funding I suspect is a big stumbling block, also for people Counterpoints has contacted.

On the bright side, 3 POIS forum-members have committed $2,500 in cold, hard cash toward our effort A major breakthrough.

I'm writing this not to complain but to bring THISFORUMROCKS (TFR) and other newcomers up to speed so that they can contribute, as TFR has done above.

[demografx]

goingcrazy, I can be in a highly stimulated, charged up mode for 3 days straight, and it doesn't affect me. No symptoms.

Only one thing pushes me over the edge into the abyss of POIS, and that's The Explosion.

[GoingCrazy]

goingcrazy, I can be in a highly stimulated, charged up mode for 3 days straight, and it doesn't affect me. No symptoms.

Only one thing pushes me over the edge into the abyss of POIS, and that's The Explosion.

hmm, still maybe the testosterone helping you not feel it?  Idk,  I'm thinking John's "cure" was his yogurt, supposedly an immune-balancing food.  Auto-immune disease now.  Celibacy + yogurt = immune balancing, no more POIS, hmm, still don't know.

[demografx]

goingcrazy, I can be in a highly stimulated, charged up mode for 3 days straight, and it doesn't affect me. No symptoms.

Only one thing pushes me over the edge into the abyss of POIS, and that's The Explosion.

hmm, still maybe the testosterone helping you not feel it? 

It's always been like that for me.

[demografx]

Thank you John21 & demografx for all the precious info and links. I'll study them carefully.

devastated, there's a tremendous amount of good POIS exploration to be found there.

We're glad you're here!

[Dean93]

If not cure it, does anyone know anything that you can do to at least shorten POIS?

...I'm on day 13...its not fun.

[Limejuice]

Below is an overdue response to a question.

POIS helps those who suffer from it to learn dicipline. 

Dicipline is:
An art, not a science
A journey, not a destination
A strength, not a weakness

POIS punishes those who do not have dicipline and rewards those who do have it.

POIS teaches the dicipline of self-control, mind over matter, and faith.  Needless to mention, mastery of these diciplines will take you anywhere you want in life or rather wherever you need to be taken.

[CertainlyPOIS]

Below is an overdue response to a question.

POIS helps those who suffer from it to learn dicipline. 

Dicipline is:
An art, not a science
A journey, not a destination
A strength, not a weakness

POIS punishes those who do not have dicipline and rewards those who do have it.

POIS teaches the dicipline of self-control, mind over matter, and faith.  Needless to mention, mastery of these diciplines will take you anywhere you want in life or rather wherever you need to be taken.

Not to destroy this beautifull summary i am actually printing out and putting on wall.  But it is all true as long as you can stay out of it.

[CertainlyPOIS]

I sleep on my

Yes I can relate to above post. You might mitigate morning erections by sleeping on your stomach. Anyone else tried this?  []

I would interpret this to be further evidence of a previous theory- Stimulation of any sort could internally start moving semen and prejaculate or by other means trigger the sending of chemical signals which call for the production of more semen even before it has been expelled(as more production is likely to soon be necessary), just as an orgasm would, simply to a smaller degree.

CC -Regarding nighttime brain orgasms: If you try to ignore sexual thoughts or push thoughts of sex out of your mind while you are awake, you might be able to avoid this. It sounds difficult but some people are able to control their dreams or at least logically recognize they are in a dream state and choose to wake up or ignore the dream. This could take some practice, hope this helps.  []

I sleep on my stomach and results in constant NE but when i put hole in bed for my piano NE stopped.   Now am changing position to back but with hole in my cover sheet and also adding male desensitizers hopefully this makes a differenced.

[CertainlyPOIS]

I have had POIS for at least 20 years. My psychiatrist told me that these symptoms although rare, has been found among patients who suffer with major depressive disorder (neuro transmitter imbalance). The anti-depressant medications have never helped relieve these specific symptoms, and Ive been on all of them. Since some of these symptom are similar to those of an allergic reaction, I have experimented, by treating the POIS with antihistamine. There is one that helps relieve the intensity of the symtoms by at least 85%, it is called Loratadine. It is an over the counter antihistamine allergy medication(CVS store brand, less expensive) that will last for 24 hours. Note: Should be Loratadine 10mg. I will take 1 hour before or short time after orgasm. Since my symptoms last about 3 days, I will take a 2nd dose after 21 hours, then a 3rd dose after another 21 hours. I will feel 85% symptom free during those 3 days and until next orgasm. I hope that sharing this information can be helpful.

This is a post by gement from steved's could i have a sexuall illness.  I already sent the person  a message about us.

[demografx]

If not cure it, does anyone know anything that you can do to at least shorten POIS?

...I'm on day 13...its not fun.

Dean, if you can find a doctor to work with you to review everything that's been tried here, and then carefully and cautiously try out some of those ideas, matching your POIS profile with other people here............

[GoingCrazy]

Below is an overdue response to a question.

POIS helps those who suffer from it to learn dicipline. 

Dicipline is:
An art, not a science
A journey, not a destination
A strength, not a weakness

POIS punishes those who do not have dicipline and rewards those who do have it.

POIS teaches the dicipline of self-control, mind over matter, and faith.  Needless to mention, mastery of these diciplines will take you anywhere you want in life or rather wherever you need to be taken.

Yeah but where the discipline lacks sense is that NE's cause POIS

I sleep on my

Yes I can relate to above post. You might mitigate morning erections by sleeping on your stomach. Anyone else tried this?  []

I would interpret this to be further evidence of a previous theory- Stimulation of any sort could internally start moving semen and prejaculate or by other means trigger the sending of chemical signals which call for the production of more semen even before it has been expelled(as more production is likely to soon be necessary), just as an orgasm would, simply to a smaller degree.

CC -Regarding nighttime brain orgasms: If you try to ignore sexual thoughts or push thoughts of sex out of your mind while you are awake, you might be able to avoid this. It sounds difficult but some people are able to control their dreams or at least logically recognize they are in a dream state and choose to wake up or ignore the dream. This could take some practice, hope this helps.  []

I sleep on my stomach and results in constant NE but when i put hole in bed for my piano NE stopped.   Now am changing position to back but with hole in my cover sheet and also adding male desensitizers hopefully this makes a differenced.

That is quite hilarious, how big are those holes, 2 millimeters diameter?  Haha, no probably half of that size.   [:X]  JK... You actually do go to quite a big extent to take care of those NE's.  And how do you brain orgasm without ejaculation??

[GoingCrazy]

I have had POIS for at least 20 years. My psychiatrist told me that these symptoms although rare, has been found among patients who suffer with major depressive disorder (neuro transmitter imbalance). The anti-depressant medications have never helped relieve these specific symptoms, and Ive been on all of them. Since some of these symptom are similar to those of an allergic reaction, I have experimented, by treating the POIS with antihistamine. There is one that helps relieve the intensity of the symtoms by at least 85%, it is called Loratadine. It is an over the counter antihistamine allergy medication(CVS store brand, less expensive) that will last for 24 hours. Note: Should be Loratadine 10mg. I will take 1 hour before or short time after orgasm. Since my symptoms last about 3 days, I will take a 2nd dose after 21 hours, then a 3rd dose after another 21 hours. I will feel 85% symptom free during those 3 days and until next orgasm. I hope that sharing this information can be helpful.

This is a post by gement from steved's could i have a sexuall illness.  I already sent the person  a message about us.

I think that POIS causes "major depression disorder",  I don't think that depression would cause POIS, unless a biological depression.  My life was fine and happy until the day that POIS entered my mind, but if we do come out of this, it's a strength building endeavor.  I'm not sure if POIS causes a chemical imbalance or if it exacerbates something else, The fog in my head seems like a "candida" and the headache seems like an auto-immune reaction and all of it together seems like a chemical imbalance.  I do believe we could come out of this.

[GoingCrazy]

Anybody think that it's not just orgasm that causes this, that maybe orgasm "irritates" something in your head.  Like sugar, etc... Sleep for me gives me terrible brain fog when I wake up, especially during POIS.

If not cure it, does anyone know anything that you can do to at least shorten POIS?

...I'm on day 13...its not fun.

Dean, if you can find a doctor to work with you to review everything that's been tried here, and then carefully and cautiously try out some of those ideas, matching your POIS profile with other people here............

Day 13, is a while, I suggest no sexual stimulation whatsoever and to drink a lot of water.  Water helps me a lot.

[Defsync]

i believe my POIS is an auto-immune reaction... wont know for sure until I have enuf $$$ to get the tests done.. but even still if they prove positive, there is very little that can be done about it... has anyone considered surgery to cut the nerves associated with sexual stimulation / erection / orgasm, or is this even possible? i'm at my whits end with this !#@$#!@ im SOOOOOOOO freakin tired of the "discipline"... it doesnt really get to me persay, i just dont want to have to think about it anymore, and sleep at night and dream about whatever without having to worry about the consequences... sleep a night of regular freakin sleep and not have a care in the world that i will wake up in the morning any different

[Limejuice]

Yeah but where the discipline lacks sense is that NE's cause POIS

That way of thinking is easy, lazy justification - the opposite of dicipline. 

As others have experienced, this can be controlled if you focus.

I don't mean to come across as harsh as this post reads.

[GoingCrazy]

i believe my POIS is an auto-immune reaction... wont know for sure until I have enuf $$$ to get the tests done.. but even still if they prove positive, there is very little that can be done about it... has anyone considered surgery to cut the nerves associated with sexual stimulation / erection / orgasm, or is this even possible? i'm at my whits end with this !#@$#!@ im SOOOOOOOO freakin tired of the "discipline"... it doesnt really get to me persay, i just dont want to have to think about it anymore, and sleep at night and dream about whatever without having to worry about the consequences... sleep a night of regular freakin sleep and not have a care in the world that i will wake up in the morning any different

Weird, I was just thinking the same thing.  There are treatments though I guess to stop the reaction, like immune system lowering drugs.  I was also reading that auto-immune disorders can be lessened, sometimes even cured by diet and exercise and just general health.

[GoingCrazy]

Yeah but where the discipline lacks sense is that NE's cause POIS

That way of thinking is easy, lazy justification - the opposite of dicipline. 

As others have experienced, this can be controlled if you focus.

I don't mean to come across as harsh as this post reads.

that's ok, POIS makes me say things that might not even make sense, or just stupid things

[Dean93]

Anybody think that it's not just orgasm that causes this, that maybe orgasm "irritates" something in your head.  Like sugar, etc... Sleep for me gives me terrible brain fog when I wake up, especially during POIS.

If not cure it, does anyone know anything that you can do to at least shorten POIS?

...I'm on day 13...its not fun.

Dean, if you can find a doctor to work with you to review everything that's been tried here, and then carefully and cautiously try out some of those ideas, matching your POIS profile with other people here............

Day 13, is a while, I suggest no sexual stimulation whatsoever and to drink a lot of water.  Water helps me a lot.

Thanks GC, I'll try that. Thanks as well to you Demo, but I'd really like to exhaust all of my options before I have to go deal with the doctor again. I don't have any know health problems, my doctor actually said that I was "remarkably healthy." Despite this, I assure you that I'll take a lot of care with anything I try.

Any news on cranberries?