[martin88]

THANKS EVERYBODY! I SURVIVED QUINTUPLE BYPASS WITH COMPLICATIONS!! I'M NOW LIKE A YOUNG AND ONLY PARTIALLY POIS-DAMAGED BUCK OF A HORSE. STILL IN ICU YOUR WELL-WISHING GIVES ME LOTS OF STRENGH. KEEP IN MIND THAT SHIPPING YOU FREE NURSIES REQUIRES COD POSTAGE NOT COVERED BY MEDICARE OR NHS!

Hope you're OK. You take this with humor as usual!!
I suppose you have some work to do now, take it easy

FROM OUR NORD FRIENDS
If you wish, you can feel free to mention that NORD suggested that you contact him. http://urology.tulane.edu/faculty/hellstrom.html  Dr. Hellstrom might also be a good resource for you.

This is encouraging, thanks for posting!

[Limejuice]

Welcome back.  A week felt like a month without any Demo posts or PM's.

Were all glad you pulled through!

[Limejuice]

Demo,,
I had an O event last Friday night, and I am glad to report that I have had no symptoms. My thoughts are that it might have something to do with my bodily magnesium being heightened, perhaps. I have been consuming two large spinach salads daily for over a week in an attempt to raise my magnesium naturally. I waited to report this to make sure I didn't have any Phase B backlash, but so far so good. Earlier that Friday night I had taken one half a DLPA 375mg and it messed with my head. It didn't feel like it helped me in any way so I don't think I will try it again. But I think loading up on spinach daily is a keeper.

This is encouraging.  Do you eat raw or canned spinach?

[CertainlyPOIS]

Welcome back demografx, congratulations on your success. 

[John21 (OP)]

LJ,

This is encouraging.  Do you eat raw or canned spinach?

Mainly raw baby spinach.  I have been cooking some though, I have read that some nutrients are absorbed much better after cooking, such as iron.

The magnesium idea is kind of a wild guess, but it is strange that everything nutritionally that has seemed to help me has been high in magnesium. Note that more magnesium means more testosterone. Maybe some people need a higher Mg/Ca ratio, or something.

[Pablo445]

A little note about Lyme disease (I will be tested for it in early January)

From Wikipedia:

A developing hypothesis is that the chronic secretion of stress hormones as a result of Borrelia infection may reduce the effect of neurotransmitters, or other receptors in the brain by cell-mediated pro-inflammatory pathways, thereby leading to the dysregulation of neurohormones, specifically glucocorticoids and catecholamines, the major stress hormones.[69][70] This process is mediated via the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis. Additionally tryptophan, a precursor to serotonin appears to be reduced within the central nervous system (CNS) in a number of infectious diseases that affect the brain, including Lyme.[71]

[martin88]

LJ,

This is encouraging.  Do you eat raw or canned spinach?

Mainly raw baby spinach.  I have been cooking some though, I have read that some nutrients are absorbed much better after cooking, such as iron.

The magnesium idea is kind of a wild guess, but it is strange that everything nutritionally that has seemed to help me has been high in magnesium. Note that more magnesium means more testosterone. Maybe some people need a higher Mg/Ca ratio, or something.

the magnesium deficiency can eventually come from the potassic fertilizers in vegetables, so the magnesium effect is supposed to be enhanced with organic vegetables.

Recently I noticed an improvement of POIS with a multivitamin supplement. I don't have this effect with all multivitamins supplements. I realized the efficient one was containing vitamin K, but of course it can be linked with something else. Spinach are rich in vitamin K. (and magnesium,folic acid,vitamin A,oxalic acid,...).


Vitamin K deficiency reduces testosterone production in the testis :
Link (Not sure if the vitamin K in vegetables has the same effect)

Vit K is also involved in calcium metabolism (and perhaps magnesium, it was mentionned in an other forum)

Taking probiotics helps the body to produce vitamin K

[martin88]

A little note about Lyme disease (I will be tested for it in early January)

From Wikipedia:

A developing hypothesis is that the chronic secretion of stress hormones as a result of Borrelia infection may reduce the effect of neurotransmitters, or other receptors in the brain by cell-mediated pro-inflammatory pathways, thereby leading to the dysregulation of neurohormones, specifically glucocorticoids and catecholamines, the major stress hormones.[69][70] This process is mediated via the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis. Additionally tryptophan, a precursor to serotonin appears to be reduced within the central nervous system (CNS) in a number of infectious diseases that affect the brain, including Lyme.[71]

Interesting Pablo, let us know the results.
About Lyme someone in a forum was suggesting to take Droxidopa (NE replenishing properties)
http://www.canlyme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6076&view=next&sid=3b1d5f15dc93a95998b351b8f8043abb

[demografx]

Demo,,
I had an O event last Friday night, and I am glad to report that I have had no symptoms. My thoughts are that it might have something to do with my bodily magnesium being heightened, perhaps. I have been consuming two large spinach salads daily for over a week in an attempt to raise my magnesium naturally. I waited to report this to make sure I didn't have any Phase B backlash, but so far so good. Earlier that Friday night I had taken one half a DLPA 375mg and it messed with my head. It didn't feel like it helped me in any way so I don't think I will try it again. But I think loading up on spinach daily is a keeper.

 

This is encouraging.  Do you eat raw or canned spinach?

Limejuice, I find John's thinking WAY encouraging!!

Popeye's postspinachcanguzzling pic above clearly shows superspermiotic strength, hardly to offer ANY postorgasmic sluggishness or brain fog in the light of a most certainly ravishing encounter with the Lovingly Gorgeous Ms. Olive Oyl!!

My money's on John 

[John21 (OP)]

Demo,
Oh, so that's what's up with Popeye.... his exuberant gun show demonstrates his his lack of POIS symptoms from his recent encounter with lady Oyl!   []

[EDS]

Welcome Back, Demo! Glad things went well with the surgery!!  []

[John21 (OP)]

I recently reported that this time I had no "Phase B" (a burn out that I sometimes felt about a week after ejaculation), but the last couple days I was somewhat exhausted. I'm not sure that it was actually a backlash from ejaculation, or something else, but I thought I'd mention it to be thorough.  []

[demografx]

 
This fabulous POIS thread has now exceeded a
cool half-million page views!

[demografx]

Welcome back Demo !

Once again, thank you very much for all the job you made. All the contacts, all mails sent give a real credibility to our forum.

And thank YOU, B_Jim! Without all your fantastic support and RESEARCH here, we wouldn't really have an interesting POIS story to tell the world! And MANY Thanks for being such a LOYAL longterm supporter, from the very beginning of our foundation!

[demografx]

Demo's new  POIS finding from heart surgery?

Aldosteronism overactivity of my adrenal gland makes too much aldosterone which signals my body to  make little potassium.  

So I'm now on spironalactone med that is an Aldosterone Antagonist.

We'll see soon if it bumps my cure for POIS!!

[demografx]

Will our very own John21, Popeye , and Ms Olive Oyl collaborate to form JPO-international POIS Conglomerate??? Film at 11:00 !




Eating spinach really can give you Popeye's strength
                                     UK Mail, December 19, 2009


Spinach really does make you strong like popeye, scientists say

Parents have long told reluctant children that eating their spinach will make them strong like Popeye. Now scientists have proved them right.
The cartoon hero always had a can of spinach handy every time he needed a quick boost to his biceps to defeat the villainous Bluto and win over Olive Oyl.
Researchers have just discovered a steroid chemical in leafy greens which ramps up the manufacture of muscle protein.
US scientists at Rutgers University in New Jersey extracted the compounds, known as phytoecdysteroids, from spinach.
"When they placed the liquid extract on samples of cultured human muscle, it sped up growth by 20 per cent," the New Scientist reported.
Rats became slightly stronger after a month of injections of the extract, the study found.
But before you rush out to stock up on the leafy green, be warned you will need a wheelbarrow full to see a substantial effect.
"Unfortunately, you would need to eat more than a kilogram of spinach every day to gain equivalent amounts of the steroid," the report concluded.
Spinach was chosen as Popeye’s strength enhancer in 1932 because it was packed  with nutrients.
The findings were published in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry.
 

[demografx]

Welcome Back, Demo! Glad things went well with the surgery!!  []

Thanks, EDS!!

Yesterday was Scary Complication #2. I was defbrillated with electric shock zaps to my chest, just like those in TV ER shows! WENT FINE!

I much prefer writing POIS posts and emails!

All the encouragent here in this shocking ordeal (I thought I had indigestion, not a massive blockage of 5 heart arteries requiring open heart surgery!) has been WONDERFUL. Thank you so much!!!

Suggestion to all: get an angiogram, the only way to determine for you. It's very simple. Controlling high BP, cholesterol, with meds is NOT good enough!  Plaque obstruction builds "silently and painlessly, but then one day........don't be like me and wait happily to the end. I now feel exhausted-but-on-my-way- to-brand-new-exciting-life!!!!!!

I'm so glad you've all become part of my new life.

[martin88]

Welcome Back, Demo! Glad things went well with the surgery!!  []

Thanks, EDS!!

Yesterday was Scary Complication #2. I was defbrillated with electric shock zaps to my chest, just like those in TV ER shows! WENT FINE!

I much prefer writing POIS posts and emails!

All the encouragent here in this shocking ordeal (I thought I had indigestion, not a massive blockage of 5 heart arteries requiring open heart surgery!) has been WONDERFUL. Thank you so much!!!

Suggestion to all: get an angiogram, the only way to determine for you. It's very simple. Controlling high BP, cholesterol, with meds is NOT good enough!  Plaque obstruction builds "silently and painlessly, but then one day........don't be like me and wait happily to the end. I now feel exhausted-but-on-my-way- to-brand-new-exciting-life!!!!!!

I'm so glad you've all become part of my new life.

Thanks a lot Demo to share this very useful advice! The problem you have now had been in my close family too (ten years ago and before), and everything is still well.

Demo's new  POIS finding from heart surgery?

Aldosteronism overactivity of my adrenal gland makes too much aldosterone which signals my body to  make little potassium.  

So I'm now on spironalactone med that is an Aldosterone Antagonist.

We'll see soon if it bumps my cure for POIS!!

I'll get tested for this. We talked in the forum several times about things linked with aldosterone in the past.

[martin88]

Did someone try cordyceps for POIS? It's supposedly useful for sexual function, immune system and opium addiction.
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-602-CORDYCEPS.aspx?activeIngredientId=602&activeIngredientName=CORDYCEPS&source=3

[Pablo445]

Increasing testosterone naturally
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J Appl Physiol. 1997 Jan;82(1):49-54.
Testosterone and cortisol in relationship to dietary nutrients and resistance exercise.

Significant correlations were observed between preexercise Testosterone and percent energy protein (r = -0.71), percent energy fat (r = 0.72), saturated fatty acids (g.1,000 kcal-1.day-1; r = 0.77), monounsaturated fatty acids (g.1,000 kcal-1.day-1; r = 0.79, the polyunsaturated fat-to-saturated fat ratio (r = -0.63), and the protein-to-carbohydrate ratio (r = -0.59).
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Basically it shows apositive correlation between saturated and monounsaturated fat and testosterone levels, and a negative correlation between polyunsaturated fat and testosterone. Food very high in monounsaturated fat:  hazelnuts, macadamias,  olives, and avocados. Olive oil of course.

I have not read the whole study but it also  shows a negative correlation with Protein and polyunsaturated fat (almost all vegetable oils except Olive and coconut).
Just something to think about...