[strawberryman]

I've read from Wikipedia:

Management

Dexter's patient, who had been symptomatic for 27 years, was completely treated by 5 to 10 mg doses of norethisterone, half an hour before, and in the minutes just after orgasm.

Does norethisterone really work ?

[Limejuice]

Both for and against my best interest, I tried the berry binge and consumed 3 lbs of stawberrys.  I feel bloated and dazed - this can't be healthy.  No pun intended but I may be going crazy.

[Limejuice]

poisblows - I was prescribed progesterone (a varient of norethisterone) based off the article that statement was written from, and it didn't work...for me.

[demografx]

We're all different.

[daveman]

Both for and against my best interest, I tried the berry binge and consumed 3 lbs of stawberrys.  I feel bloated and dazed - this can't be healthy.  No pun intended but I may be going crazy.

GC mentioned something that indicated that the first batch can hit you pretty hard, once the system adjusts, you start to feel better. But it can also be that we are all different!

Anyways, I'll just stick to my forced ejections, really seem to be working well.

[daveman]

I've read from Wikipedia:

Management

Dexter's patient, who had been symptomatic for 27 years, was completely treated by 5 to 10 mg doses of norethisterone, half an hour before, and in the minutes just after orgasm.

Does norethisterone really work ?

I read that too, and I think just before coming here. It seemed promising, but as Demo(grafx) says, we're all different. But that said, my impression is that there are a relatively limited number of groups of us, and then flavours in each group.

Hang in there and keep reading/contributing. We talk about possible causes, cures, and symptom relief. Sometimes you have to distinguish between relief and cure.

Tests of reliefs or possible cures have to be methodical, because there are so many contributing factors and coincidences. In my short time here I've already learned that this can all be pretty frustrating.... but there seems to be some kind of light at the end.....

[demografx]

I agree, daveman. This is a rocky, jagged road but we ARE making progress.

[Limejuice]

UTdave,

Interesting that each element of your protocal contains +100% vitamin C (minus the urine

GoingCrazy,

Similar to UTdave's regime, Stawberries contain +100% vitamin C.

[strawberryman]

I found this from a different website. I wonder if it helps . . .

http://www.actionlove.com/cases/case15879.htm [nofollow]

[Limejuice]

Hi Dave,

You have a protocal of steps to prevent POIS symptoms.  Question - have you tried to isolate and test each step independantly to determine if the prevention is really just one step (either Wheatgrass, Urine with OJ, or Emergen-C)?

[GoingCrazy]

Strawberries

GC, I hope that strawberries work for POIS as well. I am wondering if the big servings you ate acted to reduce homocysteine levels.

I haven't ate strawberries in about 4-5 days now and still feel normal.  I've mentioned now that I sleep all the way through the night and take vitamin C also.  I wonder if that change had anything to do with it.  My cognitive symptoms have pretty much disappeared besides the morning fog.  It's just a little bit their, except its more of a feeling like it's all in my eyes, not in my head, and I just rub it out and 10 minutes later it's gone.

So do you suspect this change was initiated by eating strawberries?

Definitely had at least something to do with it because I know many of you sleep all the way through the night if i'm not mistaken.  Somebody should try it.  I weigh about 155.  So about every 75 lbs. buy 2 lbs of strawberries, see what happens.  Maybe supplement with vitamin C too.  But yes, the strawberries definitely had something to do with it if not altogether caused the symptoms to disappear.

How many years had you been waking through the night?

John, about 2 to 3 years.

Some Pois symptoms must be caused by the adrenaline rush and other stress hormones released with orgasm. That's why we have some real remedies for Pois like olive leaf, betablockers, garlic... These remedies are usefull to fight hypertension. I checked only one time my blood pressure in Pois and it was too high... 

Next week I try olive leaf.

BJim,
I remember somebody posting something on adrenaline, they take adrenaline due to an "allergy" or something along those lines and it does not give them POIS symptoms.

Both for and against my best interest, I tried the berry binge and consumed 3 lbs of stawberrys.  I feel bloated and dazed - this can't be healthy.  No pun intended but I may be going crazy.

Have you tried the vit. C?

[CertainlyPOIS]

Hi Dave,

You have a protocal of steps to prevent POIS symptoms.  Question - have you tried to isolate and test each step independantly to determine if the prevention is really just one step (either Wheatgrass, Urine with OJ, or Emergen-C)?

Yes unfortunately

I have had OJ and Emergen-C for years, and drank them before the symptoms started. Yes, the wheatgrass seemed to help, but it may have been placebo effect as it was not super obvious. 

As much as I wish it wasn't, it was the urine therapy that gave me a clear cause and effect result the first time I got the courage to try it. (Head clear and energy comes crashing back within 15 minutes)

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm..................  this not funny, this is serious problem, i hope u are not some random person trying to get a laugh off a random website u randomly found.

[sick]

I used to have high blood pressure when in pois, and the doctor at the university clinc would issue an MC for me all the time. I wonder if its related to the condition or not? I can not take the risk to test this theory any time soon though. 

[demografx]

URINE "THERAPY" considerations:

1. The American Cancer Society (among others) warns that urine can contain toxic levels of medications, minerals and bacteria from the urethra. Drinking excessive levels could cause renal failure

2. Realize that drinking one's urine involves consuming some elements the body determined were in excess.

3. Know that a common side effect of urine "therapy" is diarrhea.

4. Understand that vomiting is a common side effect of urine "therapy", especially in the beginning.

5. Prepare for other possible side effects of urine "therapy", including pain, itching, fever and soreness in the body.


Urine "therapy" is not part of any scientific medical convention. This forum represents a scientific approach to medicine. Any claims should be backed up by studies that have been peer-reviewed and published in acceptable journals.

[demografx]

Hi Dave,

You have a protocal of steps to prevent POIS symptoms.  Question - have you tried to isolate and test each step independantly to determine if the prevention is really just one step (either Wheatgrass, Urine with OJ, or Emergen-C)?

Yes unfortunately

I have had OJ and Emergen-C for years, and drank them before the symptoms started. Yes, the wheatgrass seemed to help, but it may have been placebo effect as it was not super obvious. 

As much as I wish it wasn't, it was the urine therapy that gave me a clear cause and effect result the first time I got the courage to try it. (Head clear and energy comes crashing back within 15 minutes)

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm..................  this is not funny, this is a serious problem, I hope u are not some random person trying to get a laugh off a random website u randomly found.

I concur with CCconfucius.  [above emphasis mine]

[demografx]

I used to have high blood pressure when in pois, and the doctor at the university clinc would issue an MC for me all the time. I wonder if its related to the condition or not? I can not take the risk to test this theory any time soon though. 

Sorry, my ignorance, but what is MC?

[CertainlyPOIS]

I have had high blood pressure in the past, but i never understood why. I execrsise all the time i eat most healthy within my acquaintances, so i hav always suspected it was pois, but never did much since i didnt know what to do with info.

bjim i am trying to get immune results but primary care doctor takes forever i will got get result from specialist.

[daveman]

I have had high blood pressure in the past, but i never understood why. I execrsise all the time i eat most healthy within my acquaintances, so i hav always suspected it was pois, but never did much since i didnt know what to do with info.
 

I have had high blood pressure since way before my POIS symptoms started. High BP can originate for a number of reasons, from liver disfunction to poor health to poor diet or just physiogical.

Treatment usually controls the dilatory characteristics of the cardiovascular system, and/or heart rythm control (beta blockers). Diet helps reduce weight and perhaps colesterol and or other elements that restrict veins or promote liquid retention (salt).

Many people with healthy diets in good physical shape can still have high blood pressure. Stress and or pure physical construction can still lead to high BP. If your BP is high more than 50% of the time, you should really look at controlling it. Longer term wear and tear from high BP can be deadly.

[demografx]

I have had high blood pressure in the past, but i never understood why. I execrsise all the time i eat most healthy within my acquaintances, so i hav always suspected it was pois, but never did much since i didnt know what to do with info.
 

I have had high blood pressure since way before my POIS symptoms started. High BP can originate for a number of reasons, from liver disfunction to poor health to poor diet or just physiogical.

Treatment usually controls the dilatory characteristics of the cardiovascular system, and/or heart rythm control (beta blockers). Diet helps reduce weight and perhaps colesterol and or other elements that restrict veins or promote liquid retention (salt).

Many people with healthy diets in good physical shape can still have high blood pressure. Stress and or pure physical construction can still lead to high BP. If your BP is high more than 50% of the time, you should really look at controlling it. Longer term wear and tear from high BP can be deadly.

I agree. My dad died from high BP. I'd like to add genetics or family history to the above list of contributors to high blood pressure. In my case, high BP also was a factor in my cardio's recent decision to do an angiogram, and then emergency open heart surgery.

[demografx]

I checked only one time my blood pressure in Pois and it was too high... 

B_Jim, I'm suspecting high blood pressure in my POIS, too. With my recent heart surgery, I need to be careful, so just today I purchased an Omron automatic blood pressure monitor upon my physician's recommendation. Expensive, but my pharmacist said to be careful with the cheaper devices. I agree, I had problems before with the cheaper Omron device. No, this is not Omron spam []