[demografx]

i am planning on getting a cornucopia of testing done soon, i will have my t checked

Great, Laurac! My t-testing was poorly done and evaluated by the wrong physicians for many years. I found the best results working with a top endocrinologist - an openminded one - and a first-rate laboratory/diagnostic center. Shortcuts aren't worth it!

For testosterone, I tested Total T, Free T, Bioavailable T, FSH, LH, SHGB.

[Dean93]

I have found that taking a Nytol type sleep-aid speeds up my recovery. If I have a particularly awful day I will try to grab a few naps and take a Nytol at my regular bedtime (about midnight). This seems to induce deeper sleep and can help dramtically.

FinalPanic, the active ingredient in Nytol Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride, an antihistamine. Some people here have had success with other antihistamines. Doing a search might help you find out more.

[FinalPanic]

I have found that taking a Nytol type sleep-aid speeds up my recovery. If I have a particularly awful day I will try to grab a few naps and take a Nytol at my regular bedtime (about midnight). This seems to induce deeper sleep and can help dramtically.

FinalPanic, the active ingredient in Nytol Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride, an antihistamine. Some people here have had success with other antihistamines. Doing a search might help you find out more.

Interesting thought - I had not considered this. I had assumed that the POIS was somehow affecting my sleep, exacerbating the problem the next day with actual exhaustion. I had thought the Nytol was simply causing me to sleep deeper, I am sure that is the case, but as you say the antihistamine maybe working in other ways too. I will look into this as you suggest.

[Limejuice]

The new doctor is trying a new regime that is suppose to be a safer practice than that of the progesterone article.  Instead of taking 10mg to 15mg norethisterone prior to O I am taking a daily dose of .35mg.  This is the exact schedule for a female taking norethisterone for birth control.  The amount of progesterone injested is significanyly less this way (about 30 times less), but the side effects will diminish proportionally according to the Dr.

I feel more comfortable with this schedule, but am less confident about what the results will be.

[daveman]

I have found that taking a Nytol type sleep-aid speeds up my recovery. If I have a particularly awful day I will try to grab a few naps and take a Nytol at my regular bedtime (about midnight). This seems to induce deeper sleep and can help dramtically.

FinalPanic, the active ingredient in Nytol Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride, an antihistamine. Some people here have had success with other antihistamines. Doing a search might help you find out more.

Interesting thought - I had not considered this. I had assumed that the POIS was somehow affecting my sleep, exacerbating the problem the next day with actual exhaustion. I had thought the Nytol was simply causing me to sleep deeper, I am sure that is the case, but as you say the antihistamine maybe working in other ways too. I will look into this as you suggest.

I tend to have swelling of the joints, runny eyes and other inflammatory symptoms so I have tried antihistamines, precisely Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride, but with irregular results. It has helped a little on occasion, and not so much on others. My tests weren't very controlled nor regular, so I can't tell you a lot more. I have the feeling that there is a window where it helps and the rest of the time nothing (other than a better sleep perhaps if taken at night).

But we are different, so have a deeper look, perhaps try to formulate a DHcl protocol to better characterize the results.

 

[daveman]

The new doctor is trying a new regime that is suppose to be a safer practice than that of the progesterone article.  Instead of taking 10mg to 15mg norethisterone prior to O I am taking a daily dose of .35mg.  This is the exact schedule for a female taking norethisterone for birth control.  The amount of progesterone injested is significanyly less this way (about 30 times less), but the side effects will diminish proportionally according to the Dr.

I feel more comfortable with this schedule, but am less confident about what the results will be.

It's 30 times less if you have an orgasm once per day. It's like Laurac says. If you "O" once per week, then it shouldn't be too bad to take the higher does before each "O", but if you "O" everyday.....

Even in my good days, I didn't "O" every day!! []

If you "O'd" once a week, that would be 10mg * 4.333 = 43.3 mgs.
0.35 per day is 0.35 * 30 = 10.5 mgs. So it's more like 25%

[GoingCrazy]

Hey guys, i was doing a search through google on POIS again, or more specifically, "crazy feelings after orgasm" and came upon this thread.  http://www.reuniting.info/node/3427  it's interesting how they talk about the brain "re-setting" itself like it's some kind of generally known thing.

I'm trying to see if that works.  Today I O'd 4 times and have felt on edge all day.  I'm doing better, but not yet cured, I want to try to take this abstinence thing seriously, hoping that my brain will "re-set" itself,  I always tend to satisfy myself to the point where I almost orgasm, I want to take that whole thing away.  This means no sexual satisfaction whatsoever.

[demografx]

I have found that taking a Nytol type sleep-aid speeds up my recovery. If I have a particularly awful day I will try to grab a few naps and take a Nytol at my regular bedtime (about midnight). This seems to induce deeper sleep and can help dramtically.

FinalPanic, the active ingredient in Nytol Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride, an antihistamine. Some people here have had success with other antihistamines. Doing a search might help you find out more.

I just took an antihistamine sleep aid based on this. No Nytol, but the pharmacist advised that all the sleep aids have antihistamines.

[demografx]

A note of optimism for those determined to beat this.

Progesterone has been a 90% cure for me, so last week I ran out coincidentally.  I received a one month trial from a doctor that will not help me anymore (unfortunately).  Determined and stubborn to get more progesterone I schedule an appt with another doctor yesterday - he would not prescribe it to me.  I scheduled another appt with another Dr. in the afternoon - he would not prescribe either.  I then scheduled a third appt with another Dr. and they prescribed it!

Good thing I didn't give up, even though the first and second doctor inferred that I should.

Isn't there a way, given that one is informed and having somewhat of a success, that one could sign an agreement with one of these doctors relieving them of responsibility. It seems it's more that that they're concerned about rather than one's health, especially if you can show that it's working and you know what the downside could be.

I know a urologist who had me sign a PROMISE NOT TO SUE form like that as soon as I walked into his office. As it turned out, no wonder he had me sign the form: I think the guy's a quack.

Worth investigating, I think. I looked for some off the shelf medical liability release forms on the net, couldn't find one, but I'm sure they're out there, somewhere.

[daveman]

Hey guys, i was doing a search through google on POIS again, or more specifically, "crazy feelings after orgasm" and came upon this thread.  http://www.reuniting.info/node/3427  it's interesting how they talk about the brain "re-setting" itself like it's some kind of generally known thing.

I'm trying to see if that works.  Today I O'd 4 times and have felt on edge all day.  I'm doing better, but not yet cured, I want to try to take this abstinence thing seriously, hoping that my brain will "re-set" itself,  I always tend to satisfy myself to the point where I almost orgasm, I want to take that whole thing away.  This means no sexual satisfaction whatsoever.

If you can "O" 4 times in a day and still talk, why would you want to take abstinence seriously?

I wouldn't get my hopes up for brain-reset......

[demografx]

C'mon over!
http://forums.delphiforums.com/POIS/chat

[lauracostis]

The new doctor is trying a new regime that is suppose to be a safer practice than that of the progesterone article.  Instead of taking 10mg to 15mg norethisterone prior to O I am taking a daily dose of .35mg.  This is the exact schedule for a female taking norethisterone for birth control.  The amount of progesterone injested is significanyly less this way (about 30 times less), but the side effects will diminish proportionally according to the Dr.

I feel more comfortable with this schedule, but am less confident about what the results will be.

i am not sure the doctor understands the significance of the big 15 mg dose, but we dont either, so its worth a try.  did he give you a progesterone test to get your base levels.

[pyropeach]

Just wanna say, I just wrote a description of POIS to a Chinese doctor that specializes in Chinese medicine, when I get the response, I'll let everyone know what she recommends or thinks. 

[Limejuice]

The Dr. didn't test my progresterone levels.  She said the reference range is huge and inferred a test wouldn't be helpful.

The new doctor is trying a new regime that is suppose to be a safer practice than that of the progesterone article.  Instead of taking 10mg to 15mg norethisterone prior to O I am taking a daily dose of .35mg.  This is the exact schedule for a female taking norethisterone for birth control.  The amount of progesterone injested is significanyly less this way (about 30 times less), but the side effects will diminish proportionally according to the Dr.

I feel more comfortable with this schedule, but am less confident about what the results will be.

i am not sure the doctor understands the significance of the big 15 mg dose, but we dont either, so its worth a try.  did he give you a progesterone test to get your base levels.

[jeroboam]

Has any of you guys tried using dopamine agonists? Ifso, what was the effect? My GP subscribed this for me now..

[Limejuice]

Please let us know the results.

Has any of you guys tried using dopamine agonists? Ifso, what was the effect? My GP subscribed this for me now..

[wooder]

I have some questions

does anyone know, any methods for increasing oxytocin(cuddle hormone)- sure this can help with feeling satiety if desire arises

has anyone tried kareeza

[demografx]

wooder, from the same source where you apparently found the info about oxytocin  and karezza is a list of activities that their research has shown increases oxytocin: http://www.reuniting.info/node/2058
 

[wooder]

is there, must have missed it, thanks

[wooder]

are most here uk based, why don't we organise meet up somewhere in london sometime and we could all share, and perhaps laugh a little about this weird experience, it's just an idea