[Limejuice]

SPERM REGENERATION

I can't prove it, but it seems that this plays a role in my POIS. Cause or effect, again, I don't know.

Before successful treatment, it would take me weeks, perhaps months, to feel "full" again. Now it's a matter of hours or days!

Free testosterone is responsible for 'arousal'.  I wonder if free testosterone replenshes sperm...

Hot Showers - I've always had a problem with the hot tub too.  I'd get symptoms hanging out with friends in the hot water, but my head never submerged.  It's as if dehydration causes the symptoms.

I know many don't think testosterone is the root cause, but I'm beginning to think it is (free testosterone, that is).  All these signs point to free T.

[demografx]

Limejuice, I think there was only one cautionary comment made that testosterone might not be a cure for everyone, but that it plays an extremely important role.

In my case, it's miraculous yet baffling. It almost seems too easy!

[Limejuice]

Tribulus is an herbal supplement used since the late 70's in Eastern Europe. It’s purported effects include increased luteinizing hormone release and thus testosterone production, increased sperm production, increased ejaculatory volume, and increased libido
http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/haycock/tribulus-terrestris.htm

[demografx]

Tribulus is an herbal supplement used since the late 70's in Eastern Europe. It’s purported effects include increased luteinizing hormone release and thus testosterone production, increased sperm production, increased ejaculatory volume, and increased libido
http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/haycock/tribulus-terrestris.htm

Limejuice, sounds great. Just keep your doctor informed.

[underwater]

ajs----
I'm glad that you mentioned L Methionine. I have had it for about 6 weeks, but my success with Iron, Zinc/Copper, Manganese and increased Calcium, B6 (all this along with many other supplements) seem to have had a positive effect. I was all ready to try it, but my philosophy is if I am improving with what I have, hold off.

Hot Showers-----
Interesting, another somatic (hot skin) trigger for many ?

Demo---
Seems like Testosterone is KEY for YOU. Sorry about Benadryl. Your itching probably resulted from skin irritation rather than H1 receptors being activated from Histamine. Have you tried Cortizone-10 cream? My POIS triggers are obviously rare if we look at all the posts since inception of forum, but I suspect that each POIS sufferer has a very unique POIS profile, so to speak. What is so interestingly complex for me at least is that I have made so many modifications over the last two months that I can't attribute my improvement to any one thing. I'm comfortable with the slow and steady, because I believe (and hope/pray) that the slow steady equals more permanence rather than some anomaly--I suspect that we all have some type of neurochemical memory, that is why I think healing is almost a relearning thing for some of us. In some personal experiments that I have done, I have created POIS symptoms from non orgasmic triggers. These are short episodes and dissipate rather quickly. So for me, there is also a psychosomatic component to all this. I will try, when I am ready, to apply this to the "real deal".

[Counterpoints]

I think it's remarkable that all of us (I think?) who have had pituitary MRIs, have found something somewhat interesting. (Pyropeach, Demografx, Me). If we were just to take 3 random people from the population, and scan the pituitary, (from what I know), there is less than a (1/10)^3 = 1 in 1000 chance this would happen.

Underwater: I'm not sure.  I developed heat urticaria when I was about 16, so I get red blotches when I get overheated... which mostly shows up in hot showers, etc.  But generally I do not get significant long-lasting (1day+) cognitive symptoms unless my head is under a high pressure faucet. I'm not even sure if the water has to be hot, although I've assumed it does.

[POIS-SUFFERER]

This talk of heat is an interesting one, for a very long time if I am outdoors in the heat too long I get flu like symptoms, even if I keep well hydrated and no alchohol, and even if I do not do much, just sitting in the heat all day in the shade even...

I always thought it was due to hydration so a few times I made sure... water water water all day.... but did not help.

PS.

[demografx]

TESTOSTERONE UPDATE

My success clearly falls below 90% when activity is excessive.

Excess is now being re-defined but I simply can't get away with a teenage lifestyle []

Kidding aside, my limits are already "light years" ahead of where I was pre-treatment. Obviously, the TYPE of treatment that now works for me creates this challenging new world.

I wish for everyone the incredible feeling of freedom that successful diagnosis and treatment brings. Without this forum, I doubt that I would have ever come this far. So thank you again!

[POIS-SUFFERER]

B_JIM,

Do you really need sugar to do that, 2 O's would do it for me! Seems overkill.....

Maybe I have high sugar all the time so I do not know, but I have been tested for diabetes lots of times and my sugar levels are perfect.....

Just trying to get a handle on this whole thing!

Question... how long does it normally take for others to feel the affects? I feel them within minutes.

PS.

[demografx]

B_Jim, good luck with the bloodtest.

I hope you get back to feeling better...quickly!

[demografx]

Question... how long does it normally take for others to feel the affects? I feel them within minutes.

Effects of POIS? Minutes for me.

[demografx]

Underwater, strange I thought I posted this before. Oh, well.

I have Cortizone-10, but the itching occurs underneath the testosterone patch. But thankfully, it doesn't happen too often.

[nTonic]

Hi everyone,

Since the last time I posted I tried Clarityn. Unfortunately it didn't help.

Recently I decided to give Relora a try. I first tried taking it two times a day, and one tablet a time. It made me incredibly tired. So I tried to take one tablet after release and before I sleep. Usually, the sleep after release was of very bad quality and I would wake up with sore eyes and fatigue. But the day after relora was okay and I didn't oversleep as well. However, on that day I had a near-migraine attack (I suspected it was the DHEA that caused an imbalance of estrogen).

But I thought since it didn't kill me I might as well try again. So two days ago after release I took one tablet and slept. Again, I didn't oversleep but woke up like 6 hours later (usually I oversleep after release and felt as if I didn't sleep for 3 days after waking up), feeling strange and decided to sleep for 2 more hours. That was the most restful 2 hours I had ever had after an orgasm! The whole day I felt quite refreshed, without sore eyes and back pain.

So yesterday night I tried again (a tablet after release). Again, I woke up 6 hours later and tried going back to sleep (it's been quite difficult, my body felt tired but my mind couldn't rest. I wonder if it had anything to do with the cortisol). And the rest after waking up was refreshing-ish as well (as the rest after waking up the first time wasn't of too high of a quality I guess). There was still a bit of a sore eyes and back pain but it was much better than without having taken the tablet.

After such a long story, I found that Relora was kinda useful in lessening my symptoms. But I'll keep trying and see if it continues to work.

Thanks so much for people in this forum for sharing your ideas and opinions, without which I wouldn't even have thought of it having anything to do with hormones

[Limejuice]

Good luck B_Jim

nTonic - I get a splitting headache if I take beyond the recommended dose of Relora.

Demo - I aspire to feel like you do

[demografx]

Demo - I aspire to feel like you do

Limejuice, let's make it happen!!

[demografx]

nTonic, great work and great reporting! Like you, without this forum I wouldn't have suspected hormones as POIS culprits.

[demografx]

I think it's remarkable that all of us (I think?) who have had pituitary MRIs, have found something somewhat interesting. (Pyropeach, Demografx, Me). If we were just to take 3 random people from the population, and scan the pituitary, (from what I know), there is less than a (1/10)^3 = 1 in 1000 chance this would happen.

Counterpoints, very interesting observation!

[demografx]

antimorbit, welcome to the POIS thread of The Naked Science Forum!



The consensus at this forum to heal your POIS, is to start with hormonal bloodtesting, preferably with an endocrinologist.
 
Here are some POIS forum resources which may be helpful to you:

Please see "B_Jim"'s POIS Forum Summary of All Cases, here as well as others on the Web. This includes remedies that we have tested, and results.
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg149009#msg149009

"Girlwind" has created an excellent POIS Video:

And filling out the POIS survey created by "Counterpoints" will enable you to share POIS information and details with others here. This will also enable us to work more easily with outside researchers by having more organized data available about us:
http://pois.olympe-network.com/

POIS Research Study

We have a copy of the first and only study on POIS by Dr. Marcel Waldinger,MD and Dr. David Schweitzer, MD.

If you want a copy (PDF), send "Pyropeach" a Private Message with your regular email address and he'll send you back the PDF.

To send a Private Message, click on "Messages" at the top of this page. At the Messages page, click on "New Message". From that point on, it works just like posting a message here, except that it only goes to the person(s) you designate.

Remember to put a quote around the recipient's name, e.g., "pyropeach".

New York Times article,

January 20, 2009
Mind
Sex and Depression: In the Brain, if Not the Mind
By RICHARD A. FRIEDMAN, M.D.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/health/views/20mind.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=friedman%20sexual%20January%2020&st=cse


In addition to serving our own informational interests, the resources listed above can be useful for you to show the medical world - which often shows little understanding and is sometimes skeptical of our condition - that POIS has scientific underpinnings and that POIS is not "just another psychological problem" related to sex - to be treated by the psychiatric/psychotherapist community.

Also, it can be helpful when dealing with medical professionals to point out the successful existence of our rapidly growing forum for over 2 years, which has attracted over 100 POIS sufferers worldwide who have posted here, plus more than 250,000 page visits. Not bad for a rare malady!

[demografx]

From last year, but I thought this was interesting enough to re-post - demo

ORGASM RESEARCH

Interesting article in the news yesterday [Feb 2008]

http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/scimedemail/la-he-orgasm11feb11,0,7196643.story

about nervous system/brain research on orgasm. They said it's just now starting to be understood. Some names in the article: Barry Komisaruk, Prof/author, Rutgers; Dr. Gert Holstege, Univ. of Groningen, Netherlands; Beverly Whipple, retired Rutgers, author of "Science of Orgasm".

[Counterpoints]

Good luck B_Jim.