[Pronobis]

Hi

Sorry for the late response. In french one should search "la fatigue après le sexe", or "je suis toujours fatigué(e)après le rapport sexuel, j'ai des symptômes grippaux pendant une semaine, j'ai des démangeaisons".
Besides, in russian it will be like "усталый после секса, симптомы гриппа, в течении недели" ;
in turkish " seksten sonra yorgunluk, bir hafta boyunca grip simptomları"

One should search by ordinary words, so I put ordinary search query. I can develop it if you desire.

[Pronobis]

My blood tests show that I am absolutly healthy. I was allergic since my borth, but now I'm ok, only in the case of dust and heat I have an itching nose and eyes.

But which blood tests did you have, and how were you feeling when you took them?

As far as organized information -- we have B_Jim's summaries, found on the first page of this discussion, and we also have the questionnaire (http://pois.olympe-network.com), and there is a wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_Orgasmic_Illness_Syndrome).

Indeed, I don't know which test was this, I told to my medicine that I am always tired etc, he adviced me to make a test after which he prescribed me magnesium (it doesn't chage anything). That was a large test with all my blood informations. Sorry, I am law student and I don't know anything in medecine.

[Dean93]

Today is Monday, four days after my NE on Thursday. I was doing well until after school today. I'm starting to slip into POIS, experiencing fatigue and social reluctance.

The good news, perhaps is that I now have the fenugreek I ordered. Can anyone give me a quick rundown on how I should take it?

I'm talking to my mom about going to the doctor.

[Pronobis]

I also recall reading about some French people complaining of a post-sexual condition called "le petit mort", the little death.

I used to think "la petite mort" = "orgasm" in French. .  Sometimes, apparently, it also refers to the refractory period, and other things: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_petite_mort

It is not very usual in daily language, even the word orgasme is reserved to women, so it would be "éjaculation". Please note that to masturbate is "se branler" in daily language.  

[demografx]

I also recall reading about some French people complaining of a post-sexual condition called "le petit mort", the little death.

I used to think "la petite mort" = "orgasm" in French. .  Sometimes, apparently, it also refers to the refractory period, and other things: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_petite_mort

Thanks for Wikipedia reference, it says it's the orgasmic-refractory period, so I wasn't too far off with "post-sexual".

To me, "la petite mort" seems to describe "POIS Light"

[demografx]

to masturbate is "se branler" in daily language.  

"To shake"    []  

[demografx]

I'm talking to my mom about going to the doctor.

Great!!

[demografx]

Pronobis, shown below are the hormones I had tested, with an endocrinologist, similar to what others here have tested. Ideally, you should have your hormones tested when you are experiencing POIS (in-POIS)...and then another test when you are out-of-POIS.

My bloodtests revealed that my testosterone was low and my prolactin was high. As a result, I am now on testosterone therapy and my POIS has dramatically improved. Most times I feel healed 90%. This is after 30+ years of consistently agonizing POIS episodes.

I was stubborn and didn't want to go for a long time. But now I see that this is apparently the correct starting point for most of us here.

Hormones that I tested:
-PROLACTIN

-TESTOSTERONE(Bioavailable Testosterone, Free Testosterone, Total Testosterone, Sex Hormone Globulin Binding [SHGB] )

-DHEA-SULFATE

-FSH (Follicle Stimulating Hormone)

-LH (Luteinizing Hormone)

-TSH (Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone)

-CORTISOL

[demografx]

If you type fatigué après l'orgasme you'll find some hits...

And now we have the proof that John's idea will work!

I typed into Google those 3 words in French and lo! the 2nd Google result was Counterpoints' post above!

So Pronobis, if you wish, please type a post here in French any time that is good for you.

[martin88]

Demografx,
I have read the WHO web site and there is a special page where we can eventually post this letter.
Here is their email under "General queries" :
http://www.who.int/reproductive-health/contacts.en.html
(I'm not sure it's the right place, I'll continue to search)

I can try to do a draft next week-end, if you agree Pronobis, it's your idea
Then I hope you'll arrange this in correct english Demo.
I think it's not necessary to do a long letter. Perhaps we should initially ask if they can give us the name of a person in charge so we'll have more chance to get a response.

I think we must insist on the constantly growing number of cases and the severity of this disease and its consequences. Am I right when I say "severity"? In fact I don't really know if pois is very severe for everyone. I can only talk for me.

Also in the letter we should report an alarming condition, not complain about ourselves. With letters like this I'm concerned about the fact that they'll think we are a group of people who only want to have more sex just for more pleasure/quality of life, so they'll tend to ignore us, when in fact our entire life is very affected and even if we stop sex the disease is still there because of the NEs!

(Except if your method works Confucius, I didn't try.. I don't have NE, I'm trying to release just before.)


From the WHO web site in their FAQ :
Does WHO offer scholarships or grants to carry out research?
WHO does not have a scholarship or grant programme as such, however certain special WHO programmes and departments do fund research. Visit the grant opportunities page in the TDR (Tropical Disease Research) web site or the capacity strengthening page in the RHR (Reproductive Health and Research) web site. Also, you may wish to consult the web site of the WHO Regional Office where your country is a Member State. The regional offices have some fellowship and scholarship programmes which are carried out in cooperation with the ministries of health in countries.

[martin88]

A wikipedia user has changed the article. Here is the original list of symptoms:

Of the known cases:
 
   
   

Thank you CP for the list.
Someone changed all the text!
For me the new one is not very good, lack of details..

This is not true at all : "The phenomenon was first described in 2002.[2]"

[Counterpoints]

A wikipedia user has changed the article. Here is the original list of symptoms:

Of the known cases:
 
   
   

Thank you CP for the list.
Someone changed all the text!
For me the new one is not very good, lack of details..

This is not true at all : "The phenomenon was first described in 2002.[2]"

Yes.. I disagree with the person's editorial ideas; I don't think that one should follow protocol exactly, if it sacrifices the quality and accuracy of an article.  I'll probably leave the article as-is for awhile though, since there was a deletion debate and the result was keep.

[Jdubs]

Search "garlic testosterone", and there's some interesting results.

I had emission today and just ate some garlic cloves. I feel good a bit after eating, hope it continues after sleeping. Apparently the garlic is a natural supplier of testosterone(?) Anyone else besides the couple who already have tried garlic? I'd like to see if everyone who posts here gets good results from garlic.

[John21 (OP)]

FYI, you can search the web pages of other languages by using Google Translate. My IE8 browser has it accessable under the Command Bar, but you can also go here and paste in a URL. It's pretty cool.

[martin88]

Description du P.O.I.S :

parmi les cas connus :

• Plus de 97% sont des hommes.
• Une majorité rapporte seulement des symptômes cognitifs bien que des symptômes physiques (ressemblant à ceux de la grippe) soient souvent mentionnés.
• Les symptômes ne dépendent pas de la manière utilisée pour parvenir à l'orgasme.
  
• Les symptômes apparaissent habituellement dans les minutes qui suivent l'orgasme.
• En moyenne les symptômes durent de 1 à 3 jours.
• Les symptômes sont présents de 20 à 70% du temps durant un mois donné, selon un certain nombre de variables.

Symptômes les plus fréquents :

• Anxiété
• Difficulté à trouver ses mots
• Difficulté de communication (possiblement aphasie temporaire)
• Etat de manque pour le soulagement suivant l'orgasme
• Fatigue ou épuisement
• Irritabilité
• Lenteur d'esprit
• Manque de spontanéité ou de créativité
• Perte de la capacité à se concentrer (déficit d'attention)
• Phobie sociale
• Problème de mémoire à court terme
• Troubles cognitifs (brouillard mental)

La plupart des cas de POIS mentionnent presque tous les symptômes ci-dessus, qu'ils soient ou non atteints des symptômes décrits plus bas. Une exception pour la fatigue ou l'épuisement: un grand nombre de cas de POIS en souffrent mais pour d'autres les symptômes ci-dessus sont rapportés sans mention de fatigue, ou encore la fatigue peut être présente sans les symptômes mentionnés ci-dessus.

Autres symptômes rapportés:

• Aphtes buccaux
• Aversion pour la lumière
• Aversion pour le froid ou le chaud
• Chaleur dans le bout des doigts
• Dépression
• Déréalisation
• Diarrhée
• Hypertension
• Hypoglycémie
• Insomnie
• Maux de tête
• Pâleur
• Palpitations
• Problèmes de peau
• Pupilles dilatées
• Spasmes musculaires
• Symptômes grippaux
• Tremblements
• Troubles de l'appétit
• Troubles visuels

[demografx]

Thanks, Martin! for the translation.

And all excellent points in your WHO post. Yes, I think "severity" absolutely applies.

[demografx]

John, cool graphics!

Maybe we can get ideas for POIS treatment from other countries? We're not necessarily more advanced or knowledgeable!

Asian countries have certainly been dealing with it much longer.

[demografx]

Googling fatigue après orgasme now shows us as the #1 search result.

An interesting one, result #2 is from Sexologie Magazine, which looks like a man, late 30's, who is reporting POIS (intense fatigue après orgasme), citing Waldinger. What follows is a "Dear Abby" type of reply:

Here is the Yahoo Babel Fish translation of the above post (keep in mind automated translations are imprecise, only to be used as a very rough guide)
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sexologie-magazine.com%2Fcorps%2FquestionsCorps%2FCorpsQR25.html&lp=fr_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

The original post above in French:
http://www.sexologie-magazine.com/corps/questionsCorps/CorpsQR25.html

[Counterpoints]

Great work Martin!!!

We could help make POIS more known by linking our Wikipedia article into other relevant Wiki articles, and posting re-directs for synonyms, and including it in different categories (e.g. medical health) etc. (As it is, to find the article, you basically have to type 'post orgasmic illness syndrome' into Wiki search.. it seems unlikely many people will do this).  I can help with these updates, but I probably won't have too much time this week or next.

Then we could translate the Wiki article and post it in the different language sections of the site.

[demografx]

Thanks, Counterpoints, your continuing work is really appreciated!