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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4820 on: 09/07/2009 01:43:38 »
Quote from: demografx on 07/07/2009 17:30:35
Quote from: B_Jim on 07/07/2009 08:50:17
Pyropeach's document is excellent. No doubt this is the second real doc about Pois in the world after Dr Waldinger's study (2002).



I agree, B_Jim!

Thank you all for the compliments! :)  I look forward to seeing you're guys' edits as there is still much work to be done on it!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4821 on: 10/07/2009 06:14:14 »
Pyro, I hope you have your Acceptance Speech ready!.......


The POIS Award! A totally original design!!!




Maybe we can buy these in bulk...John21, B_Jim, Counterpoints, Martin, Neil..............................................
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4822 on: 10/07/2009 07:08:45 »
Quote from: POIS-SUFFERER on 09/07/2009 01:04:05
Quote from: goingcrazy on 07/07/2009 00:48:23
Quote from: John21 on 06/07/2009 21:51:59
I have experienced another zero POIS symptom episode, without taking any supplement. I am wondering more if the yogurt I have been eating daily for over half a year is the reason for the relief. The Candida theory always sounded suspect to me, but could the problem be bacterial in general? Does anyone have a slightest clue of how an orgasm's effects could cascade into changes in the intestines? Others may wish to give this a try. It is a long term test, but it is also yummy.  [:)]

I've posted about this before, I've been pretty upbeat about the candida theory, but only until about 2 weeks ago when I spiraled into POIS.  If it possibly is candida, than maybe it still is in my system.  If I could recall a quote I found on some internet site a while ago..."Orgasm allegedly helps break down glucose and prevents it from being stored as fat,"  hence, candida feeds on glucose.  candida + sugar/die-off = POIS  ?  Still doubtable, but very much possible.

I am affect almost right away with the POIS symptoms, maybe 5 minutes after release, do within these 5 minutes I killed enough Candida for it to do this to me?? Seems unlikely, maybe people with a Candida connection might feel things get worse in 24/48 hours.... it just seems to quick for my case.

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I think you've misunderstood.  Well, obviously if candida died off when we had an orgasm they're would be no problem with pois if candida was the cause.  What I was saying was that orgasm feeds candida immediately.  Like putting fuel to a fire.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4823 on: 10/07/2009 15:26:43 »
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I think you've misunderstood.  Well, obviously if candida died off when we had an orgasm they're would be no problem with pois if candida was the cause.  What I was saying was that orgasm feeds candida immediately.  Like putting fuel to a fire.

WOW missed that one by a long shot! Sorry. Still you think it possible in my case to have Candida problem and have a servere response in only minutes..... I did do the spit test and it showed positive.... not done much to start a Candida treatment as I am still not convinced.... 2 doctors tell me if you do not show outwared signs, like athlete foot, jock itch, etc.... you really do not have.... I am off to a Naturopath soon....

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4824 on: 10/07/2009 17:20:27 »
Quote from: POIS-SUFFERER on 10/07/2009 15:26:43
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I think you've misunderstood.  Well, obviously if candida died off when we had an orgasm they're would be no problem with pois if candida was the cause.  What I was saying was that orgasm feeds candida immediately.  Like putting fuel to a fire.

WOW missed that one by a long shot! Sorry. Still you think it possible in my case to have Candida problem and have a servere response in only minutes..... I did do the spit test and it showed positive.... not done much to start a Candida treatment as I am still not convinced.... 2 doctors tell me if you do not show outwared signs, like athlete foot, jock itch, etc.... you really do not have.... I am off to a Naturopath soon....

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Well I am no doctor or anything, but i guess there is some possibility candida will enter the brain without it becoming a problem in other areas.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4825 on: 10/07/2009 17:44:37 »
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Well I am no doctor or anything, but i guess there is some possibility candida will enter the brain without it becoming a problem in other areas.

Well one of the symptoms is brain fog!

I am going to try THREELAC I think and see what happens....

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4826 on: 10/07/2009 22:00:21 »
Quote from: goingcrazy on 10/07/2009 17:20:27

Well I am no doctor or anything, but i guess there is some possibility candida will enter the brain without it becoming a problem in other areas.


Whew! I'm glad you qualified that  [;D]
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4827 on: 11/07/2009 01:08:45 »
 
Quote from: demografx on 10/07/2009 22:00:21
Quote from: goingcrazy on 10/07/2009 17:20:27

Well I am no doctor or anything, but i guess there is some possibility candida will enter the brain without it becoming a problem in other areas.


Whew! I'm glad you qualified that  [;D]

yeah i'm trying not to give pois-sufferer a diagnosis  [:)]
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4828 on: 11/07/2009 02:28:45 »
Quote from: goingcrazy on 11/07/2009 01:08:45
Quote from: demografx on 10/07/2009 22:00:21
Quote from: goingcrazy on 10/07/2009 17:20:27

Well I am no doctor or anything, but i guess there is some possibility candida will enter the brain without it becoming a problem in other areas.


Whew! I'm glad you qualified that  [;D]

yeah i'm trying not to give pois-sufferer a diagnosis  [:)]

:-)

I was at a store that sells all sorts of vitamins and natural remedies and found a few things related to Candida Cleansing.... did not want to get started on any of them without a DR consent.... antifungals etc... I think are not good to play with! if you do not know what your doing.....

However I did get a high quality Probiotic I will use for a bit.

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4829 on: 11/07/2009 03:04:16 »
Quote from: POIS-SUFFERER on 11/07/2009 02:28:45
Quote from: goingcrazy on 11/07/2009 01:08:45
Quote from: demografx on 10/07/2009 22:00:21
Quote from: goingcrazy on 10/07/2009 17:20:27

Well I am no doctor or anything, but i guess there is some possibility candida will enter the brain without it becoming a problem in other areas.


Whew! I'm glad you qualified that  [;D]

yeah i'm trying not to give pois-sufferer a diagnosis  [:)]

:-)

I was at a store that sells all sorts of vitamins and natural remedies and found a few things related to Candida Cleansing.... did not want to get started on any of them without a DR consent.... antifungals etc... I think are not good to play with! if you do not know what your doing.....

However I did get a high quality Probiotic I will use for a bit.

PS.

Yeah, antifungals can have a lot of bad side effects, inc. seizures... etc. That's why I am not taking them.  Make sure you change your diet too.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4830 on: 11/07/2009 04:03:11 »
I can't figure out how you guys make ANY decisions in "Candida World". I looked up THREELAC for example. Many people think it's a scam, many people say it's wonderful, some even say it's dangerous. No mainstream medical endorsement, good or bad...on and on and on...
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4831 on: 11/07/2009 04:13:27 »
Quote from: demografx on 11/07/2009 04:03:11
I can't figure out how you guys make ANY decisions in "Candida World". I looked up THREELAC for example. Many people think it's a scam, many people say it's wonderful, some even say it's dangerous. No mainstream medical endorsement, good or bad...on and on and on...

"Candida World" is always accepting immigrants... demografx
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4832 on: 11/07/2009 05:09:37 »
My passport expired and I forgot the CW Oath Of Allegiance.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4833 on: 11/07/2009 16:50:45 »
Quote from: demografx on 11/07/2009 04:03:11
I can't figure out how you guys make ANY decisions in "Candida World". I looked up THREELAC for example. Many people think it's a scam, many people say it's wonderful, some even say it's dangerous. No mainstream medical endorsement, good or bad...on and on and on...

Not sure why people say its dangerous, its just a mix of needed probiotics, many other probiotics have the same mix and even put in more....

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4834 on: 11/07/2009 21:43:09 »
hello all

i have been suffering from this for 18 years, i am now 40.

i am in the UK Army, and have acheived a good rank and good wage, however my mental capacity is noticeably decreasing.

i have explained my symptoms to many doctors, they smiled at me and suggested that it will pass and sent me to a shrink, as the condition could not possibly exist, as years have passed my condition has worsened, my length of recovery has increased to the point where i have constant mental fog and aching joints, originally it was 5 days from ejaculation.

To my surprise, whilst in Iraq this year i did some google searches and all this came up, so i am not alone and a neurotic timewaster.

I at present have prostatitus, however i do not believe this is the source, i am at present trying fenugreek as boted in this blog.

Trauma i suffer is immediate, and i believe it is chemical/adrenal/pitutary.

i could go on....................

 would love to hear from more UK sufferers, and perhaps meet up, i am completely fed up with this.


philip
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4835 on: 11/07/2009 23:28:09 »

Philip, welcome to the POIS thread of The Naked Science Forum!




Philip, i've had POIS for over 30 years, recently found treatment with dramatic relief, thanks to this forum's recommendation of bloodtesting hormones with an endocrinologist. Is the "88" in your screen name about piano? If so, you have fellow players here, including me.

Here are some POIS forum resources which may be helpful to you:

Please see "B_Jim"'s POIS Forum Summary of All Cases, here as well as others on the Web. This includes remedies that we have tested, and results.
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg149009#msg149009

"Girlwind" has created an excellent POIS Video:

And filling out the POIS survey created by "Counterpoints" will enable you to share POIS information and details with others here. This will also enable us to work more easily with outside researchers by having more organized data available about us:
http://pois.olympe-network.com/

POIS Research Study

We have a copy of the first and only study on POIS by Dr. Marcel Waldinger,MD and Dr. David Schweitzer, MD.

If you want a copy (PDF), send me a Private Message with your regular email address and I'll send you back the PDF.

To send a Private Message, click on "Messages" at the top of this page. At the Messages page, click on "New Message". From that point on, it works just like posting a message here, except that it only goes to the person(s) you designate.

Remember to put a quote around my name, i.e., "demografx".


New York Times article,

January 20, 2009
Mind
Sex and Depression: In the Brain, if Not the Mind
By RICHARD A. FRIEDMAN, M.D.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/health/views/20mind.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=friedman%20sexual%20January%2020&st=cse

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In addition to serving our own informational interests, the resources listed above can be useful for you to show the medical world - which often shows little understanding and is sometimes skeptical of our condition - that POIS has scientific underpinnings and that POIS is not "just another psychological problem" related to sex - to be treated by the psychiatric/psychotherapist community. This can help fight the immediate reaction of some: IT'S NOT "ALL IN OUR HEADS"!

Also, it can be helpful when dealing with medical professionals to point out the successful existence of our rapidly growing forum for over 2 years, which has attracted over 100 POIS sufferers worldwide who have posted here, plus more than 300,000 page visits. Not bad for a rare malady!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4836 on: 11/07/2009 23:38:00 »
Philip, this post below might help you find answers easier by tailoring a Google search to this POIS forum:

Quote from: demografx on 29/11/2008 17:21:18

SEARCH POIS FORUM WITH GOOGLE

We have an overwhelming amount of data: over 2 years' worth of posts from 130+ Forum members.

In the Google search box, type
whatever you're interested in finding[space]site:http://www.thenakedscientists.com/

for example, I tried
demografx site:http://www.thenakedscientists.com/

and 1,000+ results came up for "demografx" within POIS Forum.

Google even provides you results with the Message# for each result.
« Last Edit: 11/07/2009 23:40:15 by demografx »
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« Reply #4837 on: 12/07/2009 00:04:02 »
Hi,

Finally, results of my blood test. I made it in the afternoon following one night and one morning orgasme - and with weak pois symptomes. So

glycemie .....0.85 g/l .......4.72 mmol/l
FSH plasmatique ....3.1 UI/l  ......1.1 ug/l
LH plasmatique ...4.7 UI/l .......1.3 ug/l
Prolactine ......154 mUI/l  ........7.2 ng/ ml
Testosterone .....8.49 ng/ml ........29.49 nmol/l
TSH ultra sensible ......0.75 mUI/l

Do you understand anything?
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« Reply #4838 on: 12/07/2009 02:23:23 »
Pronobis, we can give you some opinions, but it would not be based on your medical history, prescription drugs, and other factors. You do need to review these results with your endocrinologist or doctor. None of us here are physicians.

Also, there should be a 3rd data column. The comparison should show a reference range (what a "normal" test result would be for each category as that laboratory define it).

Congratulations on doing the testing!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #4839 on: 12/07/2009 03:26:49 »
Quote from: demografx on 12/07/2009 02:23:23
Pronobis, we can give you some opinions, but it would not be based on your medical history, prescription drugs, and other factors. You do need to review these results with your endocrinologist or doctor. None of us here are physicians.

Also, there should be a 3rd data column. The comparison should show a reference range (what a "normal" test result would be for each category as that laboratory define it).

Congratulations on doing the testing!

Thanx Demo, I will meet my endocrinologist a little later. So I wanted to know if you had same results.
What about your progress?
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