[Counterpoints]

Hey, I'm back (sort of).  Just have time for a short post.... I haven't had time to read everything that's gone on in the last few weeks but...
- GoingCrazy seems to be describing the 'subsequent orgasm' effect I've noted
- I am quite sure that I have (severe?) reactive hypoglycemia, and I think there is a strong connection with my POIS.  I was travelling with a physician friend, and I realized, more clearly than I had before, that whenever I eat any food with a moderately high glycemic index, I get really hungry (unless I have a LOT of it, in which case I just feel strange).  I also get a mild headache, and have trouble concentrating.  This is alleviated by having something like cheese.  This connects alot of the POIS dots in my case (feeling weird after caffeine, alcohol, certain foods, high sugars, etc).  I described my symptoms to the physician friend who had been observing me, and he suggested that I have hypoglycemia; he was quit ecertain of it.  (Hypoglycemia not hyperglycemia).

Hypoglycemia, it seems, can often be a side effect of a different problem.... and it can also sometimes be hard to test for.  The most standard test in the US is the 4 hour glucose tolerance test, and it is probably the test I will try first. 

[CertainlyPOIS]

that is confusing if you are hypoglycemic, shouldnt that mean glycemic foods to help you, or those hypoglycemia mean inabillity to digest glucose or break it down.

[Counterpoints]

that is confusing if you are hypoglycemic, shouldnt that mean glycemic foods to help you, or those hypoglycemia mean inabillity to digest glucose or break it down.

This may be related to something called 'dumping syndrome' also.

Basically, if I eat something with a high glycemic index, my body overcompensates by producing too much insulin.  This drives my blood sugar way down.  The process of my blood sugar shooting down would cause me to have bad symptoms (at least as much as low blood sugar itself). 

So, for example, if I am hungry, and I eat some creme brulee, I'll get REALLY hungry, and a mild headache, and have difficulty focusing.  In order to feel better, I'll have to have a cheese sandwich or something like that.

[Limejuice]

As BJim commented, pure cran really impacts blood sugar. I've tested for several weeks now. It feels like regulation of card sensativity.

I'm waiting for the next NE. I've been on the juice for 3 weeks

[GoingCrazy]

As BJim commented, pure cran really impacts blood sugar. I've tested for several weeks now. It feels like regulation of card sensativity.

I'm waiting for the next NE. I've been on the juice for 3 weeks

good luck, what brand of cranberry juice are you drinking?

[GoingCrazy]

I think its about time for me to join the NE group, it's just so hard for me to wait that long.

[Limejuice]

L&A

[Limejuice]

After a carb rich meal I feel glycemic symptoms. If I drink cran thoughs symptoms reduce wihin 30 minutes.

[demografx]

L&A

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[demografx]

I've been on the juice for 3 weeks

LJ, have you tried Cranberries Anonymous? []

[demografx]

Drunk on cranberry?

Now I've heard it all. They make cranberry cocktails with all types of liquor/liqueur...and even cranberry and beer!
http://www.in-the-spirit.co.uk/cranberry_cocktails.html

[THISFORUMROCKS!]

Cranberrry liqueur? Good find demografx  [O8)]

These connections to glycemia look very interesting, but as far as Chi goes I'm not convinced till I see a good argument for it.

Is anyone looking into taking a prescription antimicrobial after/around POIS?

I'm seeing a strong connection between Relora/Fenugreek/Garlic/Cranberry. I think that they all have antimicrobial properties. More to come...

 

[THISFORUMROCKS!]

So I was reading about Encephalitis on the merck site and found the article very informative. I hope some people take time to read it with an open mind and see if you make the same connections below that I see.

http://www.merck.com/mmpe/sec16/ch217/ch217c.html [nofollow]

Some things that caught my attention from this article regarding Encephalitis:

-RELATED FEVER/HEADACHE/ALTERED MENTAL STATUS "often accompanied by seizures and focal neurologic DEFICITS"
-inflammation of the parenchyma of the brain
-related spinal cord inflamation
-a preceding GI symptom
-"Encephalitis is suspected in patients with unexplained alterations in mental status."
- "CSF abnormalities may not develop until 8 to 24 h after onset of symptoms." A delayed onset of symptoms possibly related to back pain?
-"Hemorrhagic necrosis can introduce many RBCs and some neutrophils into CSF, elevate protein, and modestly lower glucose."
-diagnostic testing techniques for encephalitis related conditions
-An ANTIMICROBIAL drug is mentioned as a possibility for treatment(they are probably trying to sell it).


And here is the real kicker! Right at the end of the article after supportive therapy like proper hydration is listed: "Euvolemia should be maintained." Or, the presence of the proper amount of blood in the body. Could the big "O" somehow release/trigger microbes/activating a dormant virus like chicken pox(but something else of course) with subsequent autoimmune reaction at a point when the immune system is especially weak. Could the "O" simulate euvolemia by a change in blood pressure or a reallocation of blood supply away from certain areas like the brain and into certain other places like the prostate etc and end up being a trigger for the whole POIS reaction? Or why is maintaining euvolemia important? Maybe I'm way off base; what do you think? I'm really interested to know what others think about this...Thanks in advance for your consideration!



   

[pyropeach]

Cranberrry liqueur? Good find demografx  [O8)]

These connections to glycemia look very interesting, but as far as Chi goes I'm not convinced till I see a good argument for it.

Is anyone looking into taking a prescription antimicrobial after/around POIS?

I'm seeing a strong connection between Relora/Fenugreek/Garlic/Cranberry. I think that they all have antimicrobial properties. More to come...

 

Do I sense another emerging theory for the compendium??

[GoingCrazy]

Has anyone else had their blood tests done for any type of virus, lyme disease, etc?

[pauliebaby61]

I have had this problem for at least 10 years, and its always the same. After orgasm, the fatigue starts and is followed by phy and emotional weakness and just feeling so horrible that it makes sex a negative experience. It takes about a week before i feel like a normal person again. UGH i hate it so much!
My wife is great about it, and basically i never have orgasms unless i cant take it anymore[ 1x every 2-4 months]
I take care of her needs and have lots of foreplay but wont climax because its just not worth feeling this bad.

I have had lyme disease and was treated via i.v for 1 1/2 yrs and they say i dont have it now. I am on injectable testosterone, prednisone, and an estrogen blocker.
I was Very interested when 'goingcrazy' said he took benadryl and felt no symtoms. Can you please ELBORATE on that? The testicles release hisamine at orgasm, and benadryl is a hisamine blocker.
I need some help, its so hard living with this problem........thx

[THISFORUMROCKS!]

Has anyone else had their blood tests done for any type of virus, lyme disease, etc?

I was tested for lyme, result negative- I'm not sure I agree with the result of the single test by a local lab... There are very few good lyme specialists and clinics that do thorough, knowledgeable, proper testing for lime. There are several lyme tests, some more accurate than others, with a high incidence of false negative results. There is strong evidence for chronic lyme which some doctors do not believe in or choose to ignore.

The most informative site I have found regarding lyme is from the Columbia University Medical Center, NY. I figure this could be relevant as one of many potential underlying facilitators/drivers of pois.

http://www.columbia-lyme.org/ [nofollow]

[GoingCrazy]

Benadryl made me calm and relaxed.  But I was also drinking cranberry juice around the same time.  I really do not know right now.  I'm about to take another benadryl just to see because right now I am definitely POIS'ing.  I orgasmed about 5 times this weekend (haha went crazy) and felt no symptoms, but now they are definitely catching up with me.  I feel very very bad.  I'm going to a behavioral therapist in a few days.  All I can say is orgasm-ing more than once is definitely a LOT worse...  I'm going to take some benadryl right now and see what happens.

[pauliebaby61]

thx going crazy. You seem to be in better shape than me...there is no way i could have 5 O's in a weekend without being bedridden for probably 6mo. I agree, more orgasms or O's too close together is really bad.
Hope you feel better and the benadryl works! I wonder if if matters if you take it even after orgasm?
Keep us posted.

[GoingCrazy]

John21, have you orgasmed without NE to see if you are cured?  You don't have to if your really not ready I don't want to stunt your progress.  I'm really thinking long term celibacy is the key.  Maybe our brain chemicals are imbalanced and doing this leads to this type of reaction.  I was reading and it said it takes about 6-12 months to fully balance brain chemicals, and an out of balance brain seeks for short thrills that pay badly in the long term (orgasm).  If one thing helps us, it sure is staying away from orgasm.