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Quote from: horizon on 05/02/2011 12:01:47Quote from: Vandemolen3 on 05/02/2011 01:07:54Quote from: Nightingale on 04/02/2011 19:50:20Ok guys, I have a report from this week's doctor's visits. First my endocrinologist.He read our studies and has agreed to let me try using Androgel, which is the cream form of testosterone suplementation. I like him a lot because he is bright and willing to give me a chance.Second, my urologist (a new one). His reaction was basically "wat? I dunno." []Third, my allergist (new one as well. She was a little incredulous, but she decided to do a pinprick test. So today I just got the test done, and... it was negativeI got the pinprick done around 35 minutes after I had produced the semen, and by that time the sperm had gone from its fresh state (white-milky color) to mostly clear and yellow-tinged. I felt that despite the negative result, I'd like to try a fresher sample for the pinprick. The allergist was looking at me funny, but she said that she'd humor me. I'll have to wait til Monday to do it againBut in the meanwhile, I told the allergist I'd do an "environmental panel" to see what other stuff I'm allergic to. So I got pricked 75 TIMES [] on my back, then 25 DEEPER ones on my arms. I found out what I already knew (I'm allergic to various tree pollens) but that dust mites, cockroaches, and even cats cause me allergies. I grew up with a cat, never found problems. But I'll be purchasing special dustmite pillow and mattress coversSigh, I'm disappointed... but on I goOH P.S.: I"ll be starting the testosterone cream after I do the sperm pinprick again, dont want more variablesDid she read the latest paper of dr. Waldinger? There is the protocol of the treatment. Since the test didnt work 35 minutes after orgasm, then I would try it on Day 2/3+ after instead, if possible. This would involving freezing a sample in your freezer which is mentioned in Waldingers study.I have thought about this. Lets say hypothetically that you are allergic to your semen.Then everytime you have an orgasm it triggers a massive autoimmune system response. I wonder if testing a minuscule pinprick of semen 30 minutes later is worthless since the first response still well underway and your body has nowhere near recovered anyway....the skinprick maybe wont trigger another minor response from the body ....(Surely...) its like if you take a river which has dam, at the top there maybe gates which allow a bits of water here and there, in and out, but if the whole dam breaks and the whole area is flooded then thoses small gates are irrelevant until everythings recovered and gone back to normal.I think this is an issue Dr.Waldinger has to clear up pronto.I would like to ask if instant tests are valid why did Dr.W ask the patients to bring pre-frozen samples?To be quite honest, I think the skin-***** test is completely unreliable in determining whether a person has POIS. People with POIS may also have semen allergy, but considering the severe mental dysfunction that results in POIS, the idea that skin ***** test would work doesnt make sense to me. Im glad for the attention Dr. Waldinger's work is bringing to this condition, but I think we are still a long ways off from getting any of the answers we were hoping for. I think research is going to need to be done using functional MRIs, spinal taps, neurochemical transmission, antigen monitoring, glandular function during O's, etc. Of course, this kind of research is going to take a huge amount of money and resources, but I dont think we're going to have any real answers until this type of research is done.
Quote from: Vandemolen3 on 05/02/2011 01:07:54Quote from: Nightingale on 04/02/2011 19:50:20Ok guys, I have a report from this week's doctor's visits. First my endocrinologist.He read our studies and has agreed to let me try using Androgel, which is the cream form of testosterone suplementation. I like him a lot because he is bright and willing to give me a chance.Second, my urologist (a new one). His reaction was basically "wat? I dunno." []Third, my allergist (new one as well. She was a little incredulous, but she decided to do a pinprick test. So today I just got the test done, and... it was negativeI got the pinprick done around 35 minutes after I had produced the semen, and by that time the sperm had gone from its fresh state (white-milky color) to mostly clear and yellow-tinged. I felt that despite the negative result, I'd like to try a fresher sample for the pinprick. The allergist was looking at me funny, but she said that she'd humor me. I'll have to wait til Monday to do it againBut in the meanwhile, I told the allergist I'd do an "environmental panel" to see what other stuff I'm allergic to. So I got pricked 75 TIMES [] on my back, then 25 DEEPER ones on my arms. I found out what I already knew (I'm allergic to various tree pollens) but that dust mites, cockroaches, and even cats cause me allergies. I grew up with a cat, never found problems. But I'll be purchasing special dustmite pillow and mattress coversSigh, I'm disappointed... but on I goOH P.S.: I"ll be starting the testosterone cream after I do the sperm pinprick again, dont want more variablesDid she read the latest paper of dr. Waldinger? There is the protocol of the treatment. Since the test didnt work 35 minutes after orgasm, then I would try it on Day 2/3+ after instead, if possible. This would involving freezing a sample in your freezer which is mentioned in Waldingers study.I have thought about this. Lets say hypothetically that you are allergic to your semen.Then everytime you have an orgasm it triggers a massive autoimmune system response. I wonder if testing a minuscule pinprick of semen 30 minutes later is worthless since the first response still well underway and your body has nowhere near recovered anyway....the skinprick maybe wont trigger another minor response from the body ....(Surely...) its like if you take a river which has dam, at the top there maybe gates which allow a bits of water here and there, in and out, but if the whole dam breaks and the whole area is flooded then thoses small gates are irrelevant until everythings recovered and gone back to normal.I think this is an issue Dr.Waldinger has to clear up pronto.I would like to ask if instant tests are valid why did Dr.W ask the patients to bring pre-frozen samples?
Quote from: Nightingale on 04/02/2011 19:50:20Ok guys, I have a report from this week's doctor's visits. First my endocrinologist.He read our studies and has agreed to let me try using Androgel, which is the cream form of testosterone suplementation. I like him a lot because he is bright and willing to give me a chance.Second, my urologist (a new one). His reaction was basically "wat? I dunno." []Third, my allergist (new one as well. She was a little incredulous, but she decided to do a pinprick test. So today I just got the test done, and... it was negativeI got the pinprick done around 35 minutes after I had produced the semen, and by that time the sperm had gone from its fresh state (white-milky color) to mostly clear and yellow-tinged. I felt that despite the negative result, I'd like to try a fresher sample for the pinprick. The allergist was looking at me funny, but she said that she'd humor me. I'll have to wait til Monday to do it againBut in the meanwhile, I told the allergist I'd do an "environmental panel" to see what other stuff I'm allergic to. So I got pricked 75 TIMES [] on my back, then 25 DEEPER ones on my arms. I found out what I already knew (I'm allergic to various tree pollens) but that dust mites, cockroaches, and even cats cause me allergies. I grew up with a cat, never found problems. But I'll be purchasing special dustmite pillow and mattress coversSigh, I'm disappointed... but on I goOH P.S.: I"ll be starting the testosterone cream after I do the sperm pinprick again, dont want more variablesDid she read the latest paper of dr. Waldinger? There is the protocol of the treatment.
Ok guys, I have a report from this week's doctor's visits. First my endocrinologist.He read our studies and has agreed to let me try using Androgel, which is the cream form of testosterone suplementation. I like him a lot because he is bright and willing to give me a chance.Second, my urologist (a new one). His reaction was basically "wat? I dunno." []Third, my allergist (new one as well. She was a little incredulous, but she decided to do a pinprick test. So today I just got the test done, and... it was negativeI got the pinprick done around 35 minutes after I had produced the semen, and by that time the sperm had gone from its fresh state (white-milky color) to mostly clear and yellow-tinged. I felt that despite the negative result, I'd like to try a fresher sample for the pinprick. The allergist was looking at me funny, but she said that she'd humor me. I'll have to wait til Monday to do it againBut in the meanwhile, I told the allergist I'd do an "environmental panel" to see what other stuff I'm allergic to. So I got pricked 75 TIMES [] on my back, then 25 DEEPER ones on my arms. I found out what I already knew (I'm allergic to various tree pollens) but that dust mites, cockroaches, and even cats cause me allergies. I grew up with a cat, never found problems. But I'll be purchasing special dustmite pillow and mattress coversSigh, I'm disappointed... but on I goOH P.S.: I"ll be starting the testosterone cream after I do the sperm pinprick again, dont want more variables
Quote from: Habibou on 08/02/2011 14:06:19Thank you Confucious! Patch and Scratch tests were both negative for me [] So I guess I can still have the hopeness I become positive to the intradermal test... now the question is where to do it and follow Dr Waldinger's method perfectly.Still no answer to "cure" the brain fog, what helpt the most ? [] thank you!For me, the main "cure" for brainfog is "time". My brain fog is light generally and doesn't last too long, usually day 2 to day 5 at most, Heaviest day 2 and 3. On rare and extreme cases I have experienced depression, lasting 1 to 1.5 days.Some seem to suffer much more, to the point that it can be disabilitating. Perhaps in those cases an anti-depressive may work. I don't know, haven't had to resort to that, but from what I've read here, the result of medication for depression are 50/50. They'd have to speak for that though.....
Thank you Confucious! Patch and Scratch tests were both negative for me [] So I guess I can still have the hopeness I become positive to the intradermal test... now the question is where to do it and follow Dr Waldinger's method perfectly.Still no answer to "cure" the brain fog, what helpt the most ? [] thank you!
Quote from: Vandemolen3 on 09/02/2011 11:27:47I told my physiotherapist about my allergy's (I didn't said it is POIS). Because this brings me painfull joints. My physiotherapist said that maybe it's wise to excersise when having this allergy's. She said that the immune is more selective when you are in motion. If I am in POIS I don't go to the gym because I have to sneeze a lot. She said that this is only in the beginning. Then tha immune system is not so strong anymore. How do you do this? Do you sport in POIS? Or not?My joints are probably the worst affected by POIS. The rest of POIS clears up in a few days, but the joint take a good 2 wks.I'm like Demo.... I close down in POIS as far as exercise goes, but it might not be too difficult to do flexing exercises, stuff that doesn't drain me otherwise. Could work.
I told my physiotherapist about my allergy's (I didn't said it is POIS). Because this brings me painfull joints. My physiotherapist said that maybe it's wise to excersise when having this allergy's. She said that the immune is more selective when you are in motion. If I am in POIS I don't go to the gym because I have to sneeze a lot. She said that this is only in the beginning. Then tha immune system is not so strong anymore. How do you do this? Do you sport in POIS? Or not?
Quote from: Counterpoints on 09/02/2011 22:01:39I was thinking back to when I got POIS.... It was just after I turned 14. Before that I do not remember problems with orgasm. (I could achieve orgasm at about 13).I fainted in an airport and hit my head really hard on the floor.... and was unconscious for about 5 minutes.I really hope this did not trigger it. Has anyone else had similar accidents shortly before their POIS started?I wish I could remember when POIS started! I have a 15-year "mystery gap" I'll probably never explain.
I was thinking back to when I got POIS.... It was just after I turned 14. Before that I do not remember problems with orgasm. (I could achieve orgasm at about 13).I fainted in an airport and hit my head really hard on the floor.... and was unconscious for about 5 minutes.I really hope this did not trigger it. Has anyone else had similar accidents shortly before their POIS started?
I was finally able to go over Waldinger’s reports. I am now more convinced that it could indeed be an allergic response. There has been some discussion here on how this might occur physically for us. I am wondering if the origin of POIS could lie in the method of sex. My history: I developed POIS within a short time of becoming sexually active, I’m guessing less than two years, maybe even one. I started masturbating when I discovered that climbing a clothes line pole felt good for some reason, and came to love it and it became a habit. I then found a way to take it indoors by hanging off my bedroom door by holding on to the door handles. I did this for a while before I could even orgasm, and when I did orgasm I was utterly shocked at what came out! So I am wondering if the unnatural method put a high amount of stress on particular parts of the anatomy. From Waldinger’s Part1: QuoteFor example, it may be argued that the specificimmune response underlying POIS symptoms isinitiated by seminal fluid after having been incontact with the inner mucosal epithelium of theurethra.Could this form of masturbation have damaged the urethra repeatedly and initiated an autoimmune response? Has anyone else experienced the onset of POIS following a change in method or intensity of masturbation or sex?
For example, it may be argued that the specificimmune response underlying POIS symptoms isinitiated by seminal fluid after having been incontact with the inner mucosal epithelium of theurethra.
Quote from: demografx on 09/02/2011 22:04:28Quote from: Counterpoints on 09/02/2011 22:01:39I was thinking back to when I got POIS.... It was just after I turned 14. Before that I do not remember problems with orgasm. (I could achieve orgasm at about 13).I fainted in an airport and hit my head really hard on the floor.... and was unconscious for about 5 minutes.I really hope this did not trigger it. Has anyone else had similar accidents shortly before their POIS started?I wish I could remember when POIS started! I have a 15-year "mystery gap" I'll probably never explain.what caused you to faint? Soon after I developed POIS I also had a loss of consciousness and fell and hit my head really hard. It was checked out, but I think there was no concussion... all the same it was very unusual.
This could totally be pshycosomatic or something I but I just had a wierd experience. Just to the left side of my adam's apple in between the neck tendon and the apple I was feeling a strain/discomfort I pressed my finger into this spot and felt an artery beating there I applied pressure to it for about 30 seconds and began to have full body chills and felt a huge chemical release almost orgasmic in nature and my poise symptoms feel much less. Any you guys want to try this and see if you feel something I'm curious to know if I'm full of it or not lol.
Just one week from today, February 18, will be the 4th Year Anniversary of "John21"'s very first POIS post here!
Quote from: demografx on 11/02/2011 19:51:09Just one week from today, February 18, will be the 4th Year Anniversary of "John21"'s very first POIS post here!FANTASTIC DEMO !!..and ever since that time ewe have proven yourself to be the foundation of this thread !!Others of course deserve praise also but ewe keep the ball rolling !!WELL DONE and CONGRATULATIONS !!