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Amazing to learn that sperm has nothing to do with my POIS!
Yes, I have no sperm.Yes, I do have POIS. []
Quote from: demografx on 27/04/2011 16:49:17Yes, I have no sperm.Yes, I do have POIS. []You have no sperm and your POIS is 20% of what it was before starting testosterone.What else do you know to be so sure that sperm has nothing to do with you POIS?
Quote from: demografx on 14/04/2011 07:58:46Quote from: lauracostis on 14/04/2011 03:26:30Demo, even though your doctor said you have no sperm, try and see if you can get an actual count(number). No sperm may just mean you barely have any sperm compared to a regular male. OK, Laurac, you asked for it! [] Directly from The Lab:Sperm Concentration 0.00000 mill/mL Total Sperm millionTotal motile sperm 0.0000 millionTotal progressive millionEjaculate volume 4.80 mLI have more data if you want (seminal pH, sperm motility, etc.)yeah, demo your doctor was not joking when he said you don't have any sperm. I hope the symptoms of increase libido and sleepiness are not from the P/T combo, or if they are that they go away. I am not sure if those numbers are really accurate down to 10 sperm/ml, but that's how accurate the test say it is. How much relief do you think you are getting from the T alone if you were not taking the adderall with it. I do not remember if I asked you this before but do you take Lipitor or any Statins for high cholesterol/LDL.Also, you will not have to worry about impregnating any of Charlies goddesses with a sperm count like that.
Quote from: lauracostis on 14/04/2011 03:26:30Demo, even though your doctor said you have no sperm, try and see if you can get an actual count(number). No sperm may just mean you barely have any sperm compared to a regular male. OK, Laurac, you asked for it! [] Directly from The Lab:Sperm Concentration 0.00000 mill/mL Total Sperm millionTotal motile sperm 0.0000 millionTotal progressive millionEjaculate volume 4.80 mLI have more data if you want (seminal pH, sperm motility, etc.)
Demo, even though your doctor said you have no sperm, try and see if you can get an actual count(number). No sperm may just mean you barely have any sperm compared to a regular male.
Dave, I'm not being sarcastic, but what other evidence do I really need now to conclude that "Sperm has nothing to do with my POIS"?Semen, of course, is still a possibility for me (though I'm skeptical of that).
I'll have important test results very soon on the specific IgE antibodies to seminal plasma proteins, which is seen in women with seminal plasma hypersensitivity.For the last 2.5 months I've worked with Dr. Bernstein and the University of Cincinnati Allergy Laboratory.
Vincent Marcus :thanks !
Quote from: demografx on 27/04/2011 22:51:35Dave, I'm not being sarcastic, but what other evidence do I really need now to conclude that "Sperm has nothing to do with my POIS"?Semen, of course, is still a possibility for me (though I'm skeptical of that).Sorry, I'm not trying to be a smart a.s either, although it may sound like it, please don't take it as a lack of respect! Unfortunately you don't have a sperm count from before you started your "T". You say your "T" saved your life! So it has been critical in your betterment.MAYBE you didn't have sperm before you started the "T", but since you've got two kids, you had sperm at one point, and you've had POIS for 30 yrs!MAYBE the TRT stopped your sperm and is the principal reason your POIS dimished.Yes, you still have POIS, and no sperm, but considering the other evidence we still can't rule out sperm as having NO effect over your POIS.There's a high possibility (in my opinion) that Lauracostis is right, in which case it could be much more sure that sperm has no influence over your POIS.But as I see it right now, I don't think you can rule out sperm as having some influence. And of course we are talking about your case, in any case.I think this is an important point, because it has an influence over what others are going to do here. Everything we do here has an influence over what others are going to do.Every seemingly failed test leads everyone to think that the tested option is OUT, because we jump to conclusions on limited data or a limited number of test cases.So there, I said it. Basically we can't say one way or the other. I guess we can only say that testosterone helped you, which is probably what matters most. We just need to know why!
Amazing to learn that sperm has nothing to do with my POIS! edit - maybe I should have added 'today' ?
Yes, seminal plasma is semen. Sent from Blackberry.
Quote from: daveman on 28/04/2011 00:31:23Quote from: demografx on 27/04/2011 22:51:35Dave, I'm not being sarcastic, but what other evidence do I really need now to conclude that "Sperm has nothing to do with my POIS"?Semen, of course, is still a possibility for me (though I'm skeptical of that).Sorry, I'm not trying to be a smart a.s either, although it may sound like it, please don't take it as a lack of respect! Unfortunately you don't have a sperm count from before you started your "T". You say your "T" saved your life! So it has been critical in your betterment.MAYBE you didn't have sperm before you started the "T", but since you've got two kids, you had sperm at one point, and you've had POIS for 30 yrs!MAYBE the TRT stopped your sperm and is the principal reason your POIS dimished.Yes, you still have POIS, and no sperm, but considering the other evidence we still can't rule out sperm as having NO effect over your POIS.There's a high possibility (in my opinion) that Lauracostis is right, in which case it could be much more sure that sperm has no influence over your POIS.But as I see it right now, I don't think you can rule out sperm as having some influence. And of course we are talking about your case, in any case.I think this is an important point, because it has an influence over what others are going to do here. Everything we do here has an influence over what others are going to do.Every seemingly failed test leads everyone to think that the tested option is OUT, because we jump to conclusions on limited data or a limited number of test cases.So there, I said it. Basically we can't say one way or the other. I guess we can only say that testosterone helped you, which is probably what matters most. We just need to know why!I don't take what you say as critical of me at all. The reason I continue this dialogue with great interest is the same for me as it is for you: what can we learn from my case that can benefit POIS and other sufferers?Perhaps this is oversimplifying, but I think you would agree: today, right now, sperm is not affecting my POIS. Forget the past. Do you agree with that statement? SOMETHING - again, only TODAY - is causing my POIS. And it CAN'T be sperm! (I have Zero Sperm Count). Today.My original simple posting about my "amazement" at no-sperm reflected my puzzlement over: WHAT is causing my POIS today???Quote from: demografx on 27/04/2011 01:00:04Amazing to learn that sperm has nothing to do with my POIS! edit - maybe I should have added 'today' ?For now, just for now, can we leave out the past and take it up again in another installment?I'd like to see if we differ about right here and now.Thanks for continuing.