[Omen 30]

when you have only one O at a time then the recovery time is fast....thank you vandemolen3 for clearing my doubt

There's also a longer term tendency for it to be cummulative.

Some of my sessions only last 4 days, so I can sometimes do it after that. But I find that one or two sessions can be shorter, usually the first the shortest. But if I "O" as soon as I'm better, the third is quite bad and lasts 2 wks or more. But if I stretch out to about 9 days, that my symptoms only last on the average about a 5 to 7 days. And each session is more or less the same, without some shorter and then a doozie.

As Van says, we are all different. Perhaps one can do it onece every 4 days consistently, and another only every 9 days. But if we try to squeeze in more, it will come back to bit us.

So if you find that you can do it twicw per week, but on about the third week you have a real heavy one, perhaps it's better to back off to one every 5 days. This is good because it can give you a couple of days of sanity between sessions, and you don't get a bad session jumpingin there to wreak havoc.




 

this time i think i have overdone it cause its the 9th day today and still its not totally recovered....and this time my i have a new symptom..my right eye flickers all the time... and i fell so stressed..am planning to go for a single O tonight..i think it will solve the problem..and i will recover fully in the normal time that is around 4-5days...

[Omen 30]

i hate interacting with anybody when i am suffering from pois...and i tend to be home all the time though my family members dont like me sitting home but i cant tell them what i am suffering through...

[daveman]

Hey brave souls! []

Rock27 and Martin88 both had problems on the international donations page at N O R D over the weekend, even though "N O R D  IT" had indicated that it was tested and working.

Demo and I have about 40 EMails each back and forth with people at N O R D, from the site programmer all the way up to the CEO. At 10:01, we had set a limit of 10:00, we received a message that the system was now operational.

Stefanie is sick at home (over this I might add). Didn't get to sleep until about 05:30 AM!
Demo had to go take a walk to "settle down", so meantime I send this note!

Please, any more problems, (let's hope not) report them immediately via PM please. Let's hope that this time it's true and the system is functional.

[rock27]

sometimes I don`t even notice that I had one <wet dream> but I get the symptoms and then I confirm that I had one.

This happens to me quite a lot. If you stay awake you can feel the pressure building up and then the release of the pressure. There is no (clear) semen release.

[Vandemolen3]

this time i think i have overdone it cause its the 9th day today and still its not totally recovered....and this time my i have a new symptom..my right flickers all the time... and i fell so stressed..am planning to go for a single O tonight..i think it will solve the problem..and i will recover fully in the normal time that is around 4-5days...

Eyes that flicker could be caused by stress. If I were you: no O. First you have to recover. A few days ago I showed a picture what sperm can do to a POIS-patient. You can see a red rash and nodules. Can you imagine what happens inside the body with all that sperm? And because your body thinks it's something bad your immune system works and you get very tired.

And about not wanting to talk to anybody: there are more people who have this. Maybe on day 1 it's better not to have a lot of contact, but on day 2 you have to socialize.

[demografx]

As soon as the international way of donation is efficient, I want to start with a 100$ donation and then see how the 33 500 $ are reached to put more money in the bank 

Habibou, thank you!!

[Animus]

this time i think i have overdone it cause its the 9th day today and still its not totally recovered....and this time my i have a new symptom..my right flickers all the time... and i fell so stressed..am planning to go for a single O tonight..i think it will solve the problem..and i will recover fully in the normal time that is around 4-5days...

Eyes that flicker could be caused by stress. If I were you: no O. First you have to recover. A few days ago I showed a picture what sperm can do to a POIS-patient. You can see a red rash and nodules. Can you imagine what happens inside the body with all that sperm? And because your body thinks it's something bad your immune system works and you get very tired.

And about not wanting to talk to anybody: there are more people who have this. Maybe on day 1 it's better not to have a lot of contact, but on day 2 you have to socialize.

Hi Vandemolen,
Can you please post that photo to the Theoretical discussion thread on the new forum? It's a very interesting image, and we're trying to collect these kinds of images in one place for an eventual "wiki". thanks, Animus

[daveman]

Just a note on the international donation facility at NORD!

Well I have to say, they know who we are!! This facility was new, and had a few last kinks, although more than anything it was erring on the safe side. But all's well now, they say.

There should be no more problems, but IF there are, any error would be tagged with a special error log code, which helps them follow up. Should you have problems, report that number to the webmaster and they will get you straightened away. Follow up with a PM to us.

I should be posting a new total tomorrow.

[daveman]

The new forum is registered and generating statistics for the Google crawlers.

I see there are still quite a few references from the old URL, which was an IP number. This shows as a backlink, but is not a very "powerful one". It would be better for those that have the old URL bookmarked, to re-bookmark either with http://poiscenter.com  or http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php by going to either directly and THEN bookmarking once there.

We could also use more members over there now that Google is watching us. If you haven't gone over there yet, register up, go over and have a good visit. More activity the better.

Not that we want to move away from here, but having SMF strong on Google is an extra security blanket for attracting newbies, and a move to independance and greater flexibility.

Also we'd like to begin creating that "grouped and organized information", for use in a new mini-Wiki AND as easier reference for potential NORD related searches by investigators once they see us in the NORD database.

Thanks again.

[demografx]

Excellent, Dave!

[B_Daniel]

Demo and I have about 40 EMails each back and forth with people at N O R D, from the site programmer all the way up to the CEO. At 10:01, we had set a limit of 10:00, we received a message that the system was now operational.

Stefanie is sick at home (over this I might add). Didn't get to sleep until about 05:30 AM!
Demo had to go take a walk to "settle down", so meantime I send this note!

Ya'll do not mess around!  [] [] [] [] [] [] 

[Omen 30]

this time i think i have overdone it cause its the 9th day today and still its not totally recovered....and this time my i have a new symptom..my right flickers all the time... and i fell so stressed..am planning to go for a single O tonight..i think it will solve the problem..and i will recover fully in the normal time that is around 4-5days...

Eyes that flicker could be caused by stress. If I were you: no O. First you have to recover. A few days ago I showed a picture what sperm can do to a POIS-patient. You can see a red rash and nodules. Can you imagine what happens inside the body with all that sperm? And because your body thinks it's something bad your immune system works and you get very tired.

And about not wanting to talk to anybody: there are more people who have this. Maybe on day 1 it's better not to have a lot of contact, but on day 2 you have to socialize.

hi vandemolen as i told u today is the 10th morning and last night i had a single O and today i am out of it...i am feeling so good...an advice to everyone who is suffering from pois that dont have more than one O at a time...i suffered for the last whole month..and atlast i am good..even my eye has stopped flickering...its a kind of a miracle...

[Omen 30]

everytime i come out of pois i feel i am so lucky and i feel great...

[theblade]

Hello everybody, i just found this wonderful forum a few days ago. I am a 39 year old male who has been suffering from POIS since i was 15. My snydrome is classic POIS, muscle ache, tiredness, fatigue, lack of concentration and motivation etc etc. I feel worst on day 2 after O.  I always thought i was the only one with this syndrome but now i know that there are a lot of people that are like me. Hope that finally we will find a cure to this dreadful illness. It is really terrible and it has nearly ruined my life. I affected my studies, i had to miss going to university because of it. At least i am lucky in having a not very demanding job .  I am posting from work, will keep in touch. 
Thanks for everybody who is posting in this forum to help finding a cure to this. 

[horizon]

daveman,
thanks for putting a link to the forum on http://poiscenter.com,
its make things easier.

By the way, you spelt "centre" wrong.   []
(proper English please [] [])

[daveman]

daveman,
thanks for putting a link to the forum on http://poiscenter.com,
its make things easier.

By the way, you spelt "centre" wrong.   []
(proper English please [] [])

We're unique, a rare breed. Heh-heh. I'm sure that in some part of the world "center" is spelled this way [] [].

BTW POIS DOES make me dyslexic!

Edit: Excel Word is dyslexic too it seems. It accepts both spellings, but only gives synonyms for center! I use the English US dictionary. But me being a Canadian eh, it seems I remember we spelled it with "re", perhaps in England too.

[Willem]

Hello everybody, i just found this wonderful forum a few days ago. I am a 39 year old male who has been suffering from POIS since i was 15. My snydrome is classic POIS, muscle ache, tiredness, fatigue, lack of concentration and motivation etc etc. I feel worst on day 2 after O.  I always thought i was the only one with this syndrome but now i know that there are a lot of people that are like me. Hope that finally we will find a cure to this dreadful illness. It is really terrible and it has nearly ruined my life. I affected my studies, i had to miss going to university because of it. At least i am lucky in having a not very demanding job .  I am posting from work, will keep in touch. 
Thanks for everybody who is posting in this forum to help finding a cure to this. 

Welcome theblade!  Glad you found us.  There's a great group of guys here.  A lot of action is going on at the new forum, which you were probably aware of:
http://poiscenter.com

Willem

[demografx]

Everytime I come out of POIS I feel I am so lucky and I feel great...

This is the way we should ALWAYS feel!

365 days/year!

Sex or no sex!

Ask Animus...it  _IS_  possible!

[demografx]

theblade, welcome to the POIS thread of The Naked Science Forum!




Here are some POIS resources which may be helpful to you:

Our new POIS Forum - architectural genius: "daveman" - for detailed subject-by-subject discussion!
http://www.POISCenter.com/forums/index.php
Our 4-year-old POIS thread here at Naked Science Forum will also always remain open for newcomers, for general unstructured discussion, and historical research of the 10,000+ postings here since 2007.

The Learning Channel's (TLC)  feature TV presentation on POIS, featuring our member here at this forum, "Animus". It was aired on May 22, 2011. Here is a link to the file for that TV documentary, "Desperate Measures", which can be downloaded and played. The segment starts at about 12:20..
http://www.fileserve.com/file/cUtJa9R/TITLE01.mp4

Our POIS Information Website, built by "mat780", is here:
http://sites.google.com/site/POISwebsite/

The POIS Information Website is home to the famous POIS Forum Compendium, written by "Pyropeach", and contains theories already discussed here and treatments that have both worked and failed.

Please see "B_Jim"'s POIS Summary of All Cases, here as well as others on the Web. This includes remedies that we have tested, and results.
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg149009#msg149009

"Girlwind" has created an excellent POIS Video:

Our new POIS chatroom (realtime chat). Invite or visit another member(s) there, ANY TIME. We can all get to know each other better:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/POIS/chat


POIS Research Studies, 2011

These 2 papers reveal Dr. Waldinger's POIS autoimmune hypothesis and suggests one possible avenue of treatment.

First POIS Research Study, 2002

We have a copy of the first formal medical investigation on POIS by Prof. dr. Marcel D. Waldinger,MD,PhD, and Dr. Dave Schweitzer, MD.

  
Recent POIS Research Study, 2010

CASE REPORT
Postorgasm Illness Syndrome - A Spectrum of Illnesses
Jane Ashby, MRCP, and David Goldmeier, MRCP
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg316781#msg316781


British Medical Journal Case Report, 2010

Case study by Dr. Selwyn Dexter of a patient with a headache-featured POIS symptom treated with progesterone/norethisterone.
http://casereports.bmj.com/content/2010/bcr.10.2009.2359.short?rss=1


How to get any or all of the above 5 studies: send me or "daveman" a Private Message (PM) with your regular email address (use "AT" instead of "@" ) and we'll send you back the PDF(s).

To send a Private Message, click on "Messages" at the top of this page. At the Messages page, click on "New Message". From that point on, it works just like posting a message here, except that it only goes to the person(s) you designate.

Remember to put a quote around the recipient's name, i.e., "demografx", or "daveman".


New York Times article,

January 20, 2009
Mind
Sex and Depression: In the Brain, if Not the Mind
By RICHARD A. FRIEDMAN, M.D.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/health/views/20mind.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=friedman%20sexual%20January%2020&st=cse

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In addition to serving our own informational interests, the resources listed above can be useful for you to show our credibility to the medical world - which often shows little understanding and is sometimes skeptical of our condition: POIS has scientific underpinnings and POIS is not "just another psychological problem" related to sex - to be treated by the psychiatric/psychotherapeutic community. All of this information can greatly help you to fight the immediate reaction of some doctors: so just tell them, "IT'S NOT 'ALL IN OUR HEADS'! "

Also, it can be helpful when dealing with medical professionals to point out the successful existence of our rapidly growing forum, which has already been referenced in respectable sources such as the Journal of Sexual Medicine (Dr. Waldinger's study), British Medical Journal and wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postorgasmic_illness_syndrome

For over 4 years, our POIS forum has attracted over 200 POIS sufferers worldwide who have posted here, research on an additional 200 sufferers elsewhere on the internet, plus over 1,000,000 page visits. Not bad for a rare malady!



SEARCH THE FORUM WITH GOOGLE

We have an overwhelming amount of data: more than 4 years' worth of posts (over  10,000 posts!) from 200+ Forum members, and an additional 200 POIS sufferers found elsewhere on the Internet by Member B_Jim.

In the Google search box, type
whatever-it-is-you're-interested-in-finding-out[space]POIS[space]site:http://thenakedscientists.com/

for example, I tried
nocturnal emission POIS site:http://thenakedscientists.com/

and 740 results came up for "nocturnal emission" within the Forum.

be careful with spaces (you can use them before the word "site") and no-spaces (everything after the word "site")

Google even provides you results with the Message# for each result. But Message #'s do change, so be patient and look for the approximate Message#.

[demografx]

This time i think i have overdone it cause its the 9th day today and still its not totally recovered....and this time my i have a new symptom..my right flickers all the time... and i fell so stressed..am planning to go for a single O tonight..i think it will solve the problem..and i will recover fully in the normal time that is around 4-5days...

Eyes that flicker could be caused by stress.

Yes, Van, I currently have that same problem. My ophthalmologist says it's stress-related and can go on for months. He said it happened to him for a year and a half when he was going through his own divorce. So I'm trying to stay married, but it's still flickering!