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« Reply #13880 on: 07/07/2011 02:32:47 »
Did anyone ever find out if Dmitry was part of this Blog at all?

http://syndrom-x.blogspot.com/

There is some interesting stuff on there (using Google Translate), looks like some people have experimented with Diuretics with some success..of more interest is the theory that CCconficious found by a poster on there about how the Semenal Fluid upon ejaculation acts as a vacuum, potentially drawing in bacteria from the Rectum via some kind of minor fissure. This is what they believe to be causing the Auto Immune response that Waldinger has found. (Well at least that's my understanding of what was translated).
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« Reply #13881 on: 07/07/2011 06:33:29 »
Quote from: CCconfucius on 06/07/2011 02:53:03
Anonymous said ...
Guys I have almost the same symptoms are, and just recently I realized that this prosaic prostate infection is usually caused by the so-called hlomidiyno-mycoplasmal bakterialnym mixed, they are opportunistic bakterii therefore a small amount of juice in the prostate is not alarming in the case of official medicine meet the following crop, as rule for all of us have problems with the stomach to the intestines or rather because that is our body is designed in such a way that protects the more important organs in the first place and are relegated to less important infections and more resistant bacteria are just saying warehousing negatively aggressive flora in Tolstoy and rectum in women and also in the epididymis and the pipes so here is the development of these baktery and leads to degeneration of the normal tissue in which fibrous in its structure is loose like a sponge, unfortunately, our prostate adheres to the rectum that makes it easy to chlamydia are likely through micro-fistulas fibrous tissue in the prostate gets the intestinal flora as during the release of prostatic juice creates a pressure difference and this flora is drawn as a pump, followed by the reaction of the immune system, where as here on the website quoted a Dutch doctor about an autoimmune reaction to his own sperm.
Sorry for the confusion and ochepyatki as writing and transliteration of the last fifteen years the Russian did not write.
Sergey


i copied this over from the blog pretty interesting explanation for immune reaction, may be this might explain why limejuice reacted to something in semen but not semen it self.
 

This reads very "quacky" to me. I've read things like this from Chinese herbalists who make claims to having cures.
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« Reply #13882 on: 07/07/2011 06:44:22 »
If you'd like to purchase the tablet version of Xanthinol Nicotinate, you can do so at www.antiaging-systems.com

I have purchased lots and lots of nooptropics from that website in search of a cure for my brainfog.  It is a UK-based company, it ships its products world-wide, and I've come to trust the site a great deal. 
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« Reply #13883 on: 07/07/2011 07:04:20 »
Quote from: B_Daniel on 07/07/2011 06:44:22
If you'd like to purchase the tablet version of Xanthinol Nicotinate, you can do so at www.antiaging-systems.com

I have purchased lots and lots of nooptropics from that website in search of a cure for my brainfog.  It is a UK-based company, it ships its products world-wide, and I've come to trust the site a great deal. 


Cool, I was searching around for a reliable tablet version.  Everything seemed so shady ><.  I think I will give this a try though. Take a pill hour before ejaculation and see how it rolls out.
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« Reply #13884 on: 07/07/2011 07:28:29 »
Quote from: demografx on 07/07/2011 02:25:28
[Dimitri is] banned for promoting injectable medicine irresponsibly. Offering injectable medicine through the mail without diagnosis or medically-qualified, in-person treatment is irresponsible quack behavior.

I totally encourage responsible discussion of the drug itself.

A few things. Dimitry reminds me of Dr. Lin, at the Dr. Lin Institute, if ya'll remember him?  He is a complete phony and pushes a product called Moodmax.  He's been discredited on many sites, including ours.  If you wrote to him and asked the question on why you got tired and can't think clearly after an orgasm he would respond with something like this:

Sexual stimulation, arousal or orgasm ignites the dopamine-norepinephrine conversion in the hypothalamus and adrenal medulla, and, then, activates the norepinephrine (NE) neurons of the locus coeruleus (LC); the neural signals are relayed to the preoptic area of the hypothalamus via the ventral norepinephrine noradrenergic bundle, where noepinephrine is released; then, norepinephrine stimulates the synthesis of prostaglandin E2 in local neurons and/or astrocytes, by activating  a group of proinflammatory cytokines such as IL-1, IL-1ß, IL-6, TNF-, IFN-, and MIP-1in the the immune system. These cytokines, acting as the endogenous pyrogen of desire fires. Prostaglandin E2 sensitizes the sympathetic nerves in the adrenal glands, prostate, seminal vesicles, testicles and penis for norepinephrine release in the nervous endings in preparing for sexual activity........

He uses people's desperate desire for a cure as a way to steal their money.  He either uses big words words to confuse you or spells out a whole bunch of things his medication cures, which likely will include a symptom of yours.  

In the case of Dimitry, if he has studied POIS since the age of 14 and found a cure, surely he would be happy to divulge WHY POIS occurs???  Not discussing the WHY is the reason I'm very skeptical of him.  There's no way he randomly took a 2mL shot of Xanthinol Nicotinate to his butt and figured out that it worked.  With no detailed explanation, you must be suspicious of him.

Then, he has no website or anything of value to produce.  A picture of himself with a cat is not very convincing.  And his responses are cryptic, providing only little bits of information at a time.  And why does his medication cure 60-something percent of the people?  B/C that means there is a good chance it will work on you.  Also it means that if a few people buy his product and it doesn't work on them, there's still statistically a reasonably small chance it will work on you.  

If you have spare money to send to some guy in Russia because you want to chase down the remote chance he's legitimate, I ask that you please consider instead sending money to NORD, to donate to a great cause, to benefit all of us here who are working so hard together to find a cure.  Together we easily have the resources to beat this thing, we just have to allocate our resources to the right places!  

Dimitry, if you'd like to prove your legitimacy to us all, can you tell us how you found your 50 test subjects for your tests?  Also, can you please have each of your thirty-something CURED test subjects please write to us and post of their individual experiences.  We'd like to PM and ask questions of them each individually.  

Hey guys, one last thing.  We're all in this together.  If a few of us want to try some Xanthinol Nicotinate in a safe way, then that's only positive for the rest of the group to know for sure how it turns out!  Just please don't get frustrated with Demo or anyone else for trying to help.  We've got to work together.
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« Reply #13885 on: 07/07/2011 07:34:16 »
I had a small POIS bout this morning, and I did not masturbate last night, NOR do I think I had a NE.  All I can think of is that I did have my hot laptop, sitting in my lap lap for a long period of time while I read NSF posts and typed out emails.  Any chance the laptop heat to my 'junk' could have brought on POIS symptoms??? 
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« Reply #13886 on: 07/07/2011 07:45:42 »
Quote from: demografx on 07/07/2011 02:25:28

He's banned for promoting injectable medicine irresponsibly. Offering injectable medicine through the mail without diagnosis or medically-qualified, in-person treatment is irresponsible quack behavior.

I totally encourage responsible discussion of the drug itself.


Thanks for your good work, demo.
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« Reply #13887 on: 07/07/2011 09:25:24 »
Guys, did I miss a post from Dmitry trying to sell us something? Last I read, Dmitry was simply advising what had worked for him, and it is a substance that can be purchased from numerous sources. I'm wondering why he seems shady given that I had not seen him try to profit from this advice.

The Blog that I referred to earlier seems legitimate in that it is like a russian version of this forum. Bunch of guys sharing information and theories, there is in fact a bloke who was thinking of setting up a website to provide information on POIS (sound familiar). A lot of them seem to have tried the injection.

Reading through the comments, it does seem that the injection had worked for some, but far from a cure. I would like to see more discussion on this, does it really work? If so then why does it work?

B_Daniel - Love your work in promoting the NORD Donations. Please put me down for $100.00 which I will put into the fund in a month or two. (just trying to work some things out now).

How do we promote POIS a little more? get the word out there - the more awareness more donations - I had a thought the other day. Does anyone have any ties to the Gay Community? I was thinking that there must be some level of awareness in this community about POIS or at least symptoms of. The Gay Colleagues I have worked with in the past (lost touch with them now) used to have WAAAY more Sex than I did. If there is this awareness and we can get the word out - we could promote awareness = sympathy for our cause = NORD donations.

EDIT: Main Reason is I think there is a strong focus on Mens Health in the Gay Community. That is my feeling, but I could be wrong.
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« Reply #13888 on: 07/07/2011 09:43:24 »
Yeh, I'm not sure where you guys got the feeling the Dmitry was trying to make a profit here.  Might have been some misunderstanding with the translations and all.  I certainly don't see how he can benefit from this since he said you can buy these products anywhere.
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« Reply #13889 on: 07/07/2011 14:12:51 »
Quote from: jivetalk on 07/07/2011 09:25:24
B_Daniel - Love your work in promoting the NORD Donations. Please put me down for $100.00 which I will put into the fund in a month or two. (just trying to work some things out now).

In the voice of Frank Costanza: That's what I'm talking about!!!

jivetalk - I've added you to the pledged donation table on the POIScenter forum, under the 'Tally of Nord Donations' thread!
 
As a group we have over $6,700 pledged to NORD on top of our $2,385 of actual donations.  This thing is real guys - with everyone's continued support and pledges and donations, we're going to get some REAL RESEARCH and some REAL PUBLICITY (within the medical community) about POIS!
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« Reply #13890 on: 07/07/2011 15:59:58 »
Does anyone know if the anti-depressant Prozac has any side effects in long term? Has anyone tried it?
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« Reply #13891 on: 07/07/2011 17:10:24 »
Quote from: B_Daniel on 07/07/2011 06:44:22
If you'd like to purchase the tablet version of Xanthinol Nicotinate, you can do so at www.antiaging-systems.com

I have purchased lots and lots of nooptropics from that website in search of a cure for my brainfog.  It is a UK-based company, it ships its products world-wide, and I've come to trust the site a great deal. 

If we wanted to test this stuff, it would be much better to start with oral first. Dmitri says that oral doesn't work, but it's rather opportune that he happens to have injectable which is not widely available.

I had a friend who took just plain niacin (for the buzz I think). I=One day they found him on the sidewalk..... fortunately he didn't die, but had had a very drastic and dangerous fall of blood pressure and had to go to the hospital. He was a regular guy, not fit but not out of shape, in his young 30s.

So if we take the oral first, we can see how we react. And although we MAY not get 100% relief, at least we've got a base to test with.

This also being that it is not a prescription drug, in which case we should at least try initially to obtain it in a safe way.


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« Reply #13892 on: 07/07/2011 17:14:58 »
Quote from: silverandcol on 07/07/2011 07:04:20
Quote from: B_Daniel on 07/07/2011 06:44:22
If you'd like to purchase the tablet version of Xanthinol Nicotinate, you can do so at www.antiaging-systems.com

I have purchased lots and lots of nooptropics from that website in search of a cure for my brainfog.  It is a UK-based company, it ships its products world-wide, and I've come to trust the site a great deal. 


Cool, I was searching around for a reliable tablet version.  Everything seemed so shady ><.  I think I will give this a try though. Take a pill hour before ejaculation and see how it rolls out.

Maybe take one or two the week before just to see how you react to them, maybe once without any exercise and another one before light exercise.

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« Reply #13893 on: 07/07/2011 17:25:41 »
i dont mind trying it if am not getting from a random guy on the internet from russia. It is not siting well with me that he also needs our phone number, by the time we send him message, he has our phone number, mailing address and email, what can of information can be swiped using those information,
i also want to say the picture of his lab looks like it was put together in  5 minutes

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« Reply #13894 on: 07/07/2011 17:39:41 »


Quote from: Animus on 07/07/2011 07:45:42
Quote from: demografx on 07/07/2011 02:25:28

He's banned for promoting injectable medicine irresponsibly. Offering injectable medicine through the mail without diagnosis or medically-qualified, in-person treatment is irresponsible quack behavior.

I totally encourage responsible discussion of the drug itself.



Thanks for your good work, demo.


Animus, you're VERY welcome...and I thank YOU for all your wonderful, incredible support of this forum and working hard for the relief of worldwide POIS suffering!

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« Reply #13895 on: 07/07/2011 17:47:25 »
Quote from: silverandcol on 07/07/2011 09:43:24

Yeh, I'm not sure where you guys got the feeling the Dmitry was trying to make a profit here.  Might have been some misunderstanding with the translations and all.  I certainly don't see how he can benefit from this since he said you can buy these products anywhere.

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Quote from: jivetalk on 06/07/2011 07:26:45

I have spent the lest 3 hours ringing pharmacies in Australia and Health Food Stores/Supplment Vitamin stores.
It seems no-one in Australia seems to have Xanthinol Nicotinate in injectible (or even tablet) form - or at least that I have been able to find.

If anyone finds an online store that sells this stuff and ships to Australia, please let me know.




Quote from: Habibou on 06/07/2011 15:39:32

There is no drugstore which sell Xanthiol Nicotinate in France either  [:(]


I am certain that an "expert" like Dmitry is VERY well aware of the unavailability of injectable XN. Hmmm, I wonder where we could all go to find it? [;D]
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« Reply #13896 on: 07/07/2011 18:05:30 »


Quote from: B_Daniel on 07/07/2011 07:28:29
Quote from: demografx on 07/07/2011 02:25:28

Dimitri is banned for promoting injectable medicine irresponsibly. Offering injectable medicine through the mail without diagnosis or medically-qualified, in-person treatment is irresponsible quack behavior.

I totally encourage responsible discussion of the drug itself.


A few things. Dimitry reminds me of Dr. Lin, at the Dr. Lin Institute, if ya'll remember him?  He is a complete phony and pushes a product called Moodmax.  He's been discredited on many sites, including ours.  If you wrote to him and asked the question on why you got tired and can't think clearly after an orgasm he would respond with something like this:

Sexual stimulation, arousal or orgasm ignites the dopamine-norepinephrine conversion in the hypothalamus and adrenal medulla, and, then, activates the norepinephrine (NE) neurons of the locus coeruleus (LC); the neural signals are relayed to the preoptic area of the hypothalamus via the ventral norepinephrine noradrenergic bundle, where noepinephrine is released; then, norepinephrine stimulates the synthesis of prostaglandin E2 in local neurons and/or astrocytes, by activating  a group of proinflammatory cytokines such as IL-1, IL-1ß, IL-6, TNF-, IFN-, and MIP-1in the the immune system. These cytokines, acting as the endogenous pyrogen of desire fires. Prostaglandin E2 sensitizes the sympathetic nerves in the adrenal glands, prostate, seminal vesicles, testicles and penis for norepinephrine release in the nervous endings in preparing for sexual activity........

He uses people's desperate desire for a cure as a way to steal their money.  He either uses big words words to confuse you or spells out a whole bunch of things his medication cures, which likely will include a symptom of yours. 

In the case of Dimitry, if he has studied POIS since the age of 14 and found a cure, surely he would be happy to divulge WHY POIS occurs???  Not discussing the WHY is the reason I'm very skeptical of him.  There's no way he randomly took a 2mL shot of Xanthinol Nicotinate to his butt and figured out that it worked.  With no detailed explanation, you must be suspicious of him.

Then, he has no website or anything of value to produce.  A picture of himself with a cat is not very convincing.  And his responses are cryptic, providing only little bits of information at a time.  And why does his medication cure 60-something percent of the people?  B/C that means there is a good chance it will work on you.  Also it means that if a few people buy his product and it doesn't work on them, there's still statistically a reasonably small chance it will work on you. 

If you have spare money to send to some guy in Russia because you want to chase down the remote chance he's legitimate, I ask that you please consider instead sending money to NORD, to donate to a great cause, to benefit all of us here who are working so hard together to find a cure.  Together we easily have the resources to beat this thing, we just have to allocate our resources to the right places! 

Dimitry, if you'd like to prove your legitimacy to us all, can you tell us how you found your 50 test subjects for your tests?  Also, can you please have each of your thirty-something CURED test subjects please write to us and post of their individual experiences.  We'd like to PM and ask questions of them each individually. 

Hey guys, one last thing.  We're all in this together.  If a few of us want to try some Xanthinol Nicotinate in a safe way, then that's only positive for the rest of the group to know for sure how it turns out!  Just please don't get frustrated with Demo or anyone else for trying to help.  We've got to work together.



B_Daniel, I don't know how to thank you for your incredible support here! And it's not because you agree with me about Dmitry, it's for EVERYTHING you have done here.

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« Reply #13897 on: 07/07/2011 18:23:21 »
Quote from: jivetalk on 07/07/2011 09:25:24

Guys, did I miss a post from Dmitry trying to sell us something? Last I read, Dmitry was simply advising what had worked for him, and it is a substance that can be purchased from numerous sources. I'm wondering why he seems shady given that I had not seen him try to profit from this advice.


You may have missed the posts and the PM's that I deleted. He was getting VERY aggressive about posting his email (spamming) and getting injectable XN samples into all your hands, after collecting some information from you. At least 4 people here were "ready to go", and I just hope to hell that they haven't done so!

You asked: Universally available injectable XN? Profit motive? Please see my reply above to silverandcol.

I was NOT about to wait for him to kill someone here with his destructive quackery!

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« Reply #13898 on: 07/07/2011 18:43:42 »
Quote from: demografx on 07/07/2011 18:23:21
Quote from: jivetalk on 07/07/2011 09:25:24

Guys, did I miss a post from Dmitry trying to sell us something? Last I read, Dmitry was simply advising what had worked for him, and it is a substance that can be purchased from numerous sources. I'm wondering why he seems shady given that I had not seen him try to profit from this advice.


You may have missed the posts and the PM's that I deleted. He was getting VERY aggressive about posting his email (spamming) and getting injectable XN samples into all your hands, after collecting some information from you. At least 4 people here were "ready to go", and I just hope to hell that they haven't done so!

You asked: Universally available injectable XN? Profit motive? Please see my reply above to silverandcol.

I was NOT about to wait for him to kill someone here with his destructive quackery!



Ah that seems alot more suspicious now.  I'm guessing he wanted to eventually be a supplier of these injections for us.  It is also weird that he thinks we are fine injecting ourselves when you need at least the training of a nurse to give shots I think.  No normal person can just find the vein in our butt muscle lo.
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« Reply #13899 on: 07/07/2011 19:07:55 »
Hi Guys,

I'm one of the guys at the Russian forum. I really pity about recent events on this forum and I would want to remove any confusion I would be able to.
1. Dmitriy had contacted me personally and I was told him that XN helps me. I had a post about XN here, but I didn't tried to promote it neither I do want to promote it now. It is injectable medicine, so please be careful. I don't know the motives of Dmitriy, but I don't believe that his target was to make money on it. The XN is very common and cheap drug in Russia and Ukraine where I live.
2. As far as I know XN helps me, Dmitriy and one another person, don't rmbr his name.
3. XN doesn't cure the disease it only cures the symptoms, and if make a grade of how well it cures the symptoms for me, I would grade it as 95% and I have to make the injection at the day I want to have O, before O.
4. I know nothing about XN in pills and what should be the doze to have the same effect.
5. I don't know why it helps me and how it helps, it was my doctor who tried to help me with POIS and who wanted to check if Niacin helps, but because of my problems with stomach reverted to XN as less damaging drug for the stomach.
6. There is no any tests that was taken by the people who find it helpful and that approve that the XN really helps.

So, again, XN is an injectable drug, so be careful, the number of people having POIS who tried it and who find this drug helpful is very limited.

Victor
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