[demografx]

Daveman, will your software accommodate 100 Naked Ladies For POIS???

[observercenter]

I am going to participate very soon in a POIS article that is going to appear in the Spain´s newspaper "El Mundo"- and its web-page: http://www.elmundo.es/ (3 million visitors each day, 1 million readers). They have asked me for help and i accepted. I told the journalist that i wanted them to raise the NORD research fund in the article and our current initiatives- and more: I told them that it must be stated very clearly that more research is needed to fight against this condition, despite the fact that some of us have had significant relief- and they completely agree with this view and are well informed. I will bring more news about this in a few days.

[Habibou]

Fantasitic News Observer !! It is essential that we can bring up the NORD donation plan to raise more money... Very good job!!

[ejactrouble]

I am terribly sorry.  I tried using the search function, I really did.  My mental state isn't allowing me to comprehend anything I read at the moment.

I am looking for the cure.  After years of psychiatric drugs (over a dozen) and being diagnosed with several mental illnesses (bipolar, anxiety, depression, psychotic behavior, schitzophrenia) I have FINALLY put 2 and 2 together and found out that my problem is due to ejaculation, and not a sudden onset of mental illness (although I DO have mental illness symptoms for days after ejaculation).  This problem has cost me my life, my livelihood, my mental capacity, and my will to live.  I am barely hanging on...

Is it testosterone?  Serotonin?  I read the first few pages but couldn't manage anything more.  I wanted to ask what the possible problem is and if anything helps, before I go lay down for a few hours.  Today is Day 1 after ejaculation.

F*ck my life!

[lauracostis]

I am going to participate very soon in a POIS article that is going to appear in the Spain´s newspaper "El Mundo"- and its web-page: http://www.elmundo.es/ (3 million visitors each day, 1 million readers). They have asked me for help and i accepted. I told the journalist that i wanted them to raise the NORD research fund in the article and our current initiatives- and more: I told them that it must be stated very clearly that more research is needed to fight against this condition, despite the fact that some of us have had significant relief- and they completely agree with this view and are well informed. I will bring more news about this in a few days.

Thats awesome, I have lived in Spain twice and I know for a fact that the Spanish are much more open minded than Americans about things like this. 

[demografx]

I am going to participate very soon in a POIS article that is going to appear in the Spain´s newspaper "El Mundo"- and its web-page: http://www.elmundo.es/ (3 million visitors each day, 1 million readers). They have asked me for help and i accepted. I told the journalist that i wanted them to raise the NORD research fund in the article and our current initiatives- and more: I told them that it must be stated very clearly that more research is needed to fight against this condition, despite the fact that some of us have had significant relief- and they completely agree with this view and are well informed. I will bring more news about this in a few days.

THANK YOU, observercenter!!!!!

[demografx]

F*ck my life!

sent via PM+email
Dear ejactrouble,

Please don't give up.

We have ALL been exactly where you are!

But you have now finally found a group who understands and cares about you!

Send me a private message (or post it here if you wish)...if you'd like some telephone crisis/hotline contact info.

If things get real bad, please check into your nearest hospital emergency room.

Best wishes,
demo

[demografx]

ejactrouble, welcome to the POIS thread of The Naked Science Forum!  We believe that 2012 is POIS' Breakthrough Year. We hope to launch serious POIS Medical Research. A great time to be here.     


**(If you have any technical questions, please feel free to PM (private message) Daveman or me -- or another forum member - - go towards the end of this welcome message (after the 5 available research articles are described) for instuctions on how to send PM. We'll be happy to explain.)***


If you haven't already done so, but would like to like to join the new forum,  send "daveman" a PM here at the Naked Science Forum.


Here are some POIS resources which may be helpful to you:

Click here to see Mat780's excellent YouTube POIS Channel.   Mat's YouTube videos include (1) our great new April 12 POIS TV Documentary. A must-see. And (2) The Learning Channel documentary, featuring our forum member "Animus".

Click here to see The POIS reddit post.  Outsiders (non-POISers) spontaneously gifted NORD's POIS Research Grant $1,000+ from this reddit post. Thanks to "mellivora" and "CCconfucius"!

Our POIS chatroom (realtime chat). Invite or visit another member(s) there, ANY TIME. We can all get to know each other better:
Just click here first, and then look for "CHAT" button towards top of page, 4th button to your right!

Our alternate POIS Forum - architectural genius: "daveman" - for detailed subject-by-subject discussion.
http://www.POISCenter.com/forums/index.php
Our 5-year-old POIS thread here at Naked Science Forum will also always remain open for newcomers, for general unstructured discussion, and historical research of the 10,000+ postings here since 2007.

Our POIS Information Website, built by "mat780", is here:
http://sites.google.com/site/POISwebsite/

The POIS Information Website is home to the POIS Forum Compendium, written by "Pyropeach", and contains theories already discussed here and treatments that have both worked and failed.

Please see "B_Jim"'s POIS Summary of All Cases, here as well as others on the Web. This includes remedies that we have tested, and results.
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg149009#msg149009

"Girlwind" has created an excellent POIS Video:

Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome "POIS": Case report

Authors:
Abdalla M Attia*, Magda H Al-Ziny, Hossam A Yasien
*Corresponding author: Andrology Unit, Minoufiya University, Shibin El Kom, Eygpt

For more info, check out emi_b's  SMF POIS thread:
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=191.0;topicseen


POIS Research Studies available Upon Request:

1. and 2. POIS Research Studies, 2011

These 2 papers reveal Dr. Waldinger's POIS autoimmune hypothesis and suggest one possible avenue of treatment.

3. First POIS Research Study, 2002

We have a copy of the first formal medical investigation on POIS by Prof. dr. Marcel D. Waldinger,MD, Ph.D., and Dr. Dave Schweitzer, MD.

   
4. Recent POIS Research Study, 2010

CASE REPORT
Postorgasm Illness Syndrome - A Spectrum of Illnesses
Jane Ashby, MRCP, and David Goldmeier, MRCP
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg316781#msg316781


5. British Medical Journal Case Report, 2010

Case study by Dr. Selwyn Dexter of a patient with a headache-featured POIS symptom treated with progesterone/norethisterone.
http://casereports.bmj.com/content/2010/bcr.10.2009.2359.short?rss=1


How to get any or all of the above 5 studies: send me or "daveman" a Private Message (PM) with your regular email address (use "AT" instead of "@" ) and we'll send you back the PDF(s).

To send a Private Message, click on "My Messages" at the top of this page. Then click "Send Message". From that point on, it works just like posting a message here, except that it only goes to the person(s) you designate.


New York Times article,

January 20, 2009
Mind
Sex and Depression: In the Brain, if Not the Mind
By RICHARD A. FRIEDMAN, M.D.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/health/views/20mind.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=friedman%20sexual%20January%2020&st=cse

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In addition to serving our own informational interests, the resources listed above can be useful for you to show our credibility to the medical world - which often shows little understanding and is sometimes skeptical of our condition: POIS has scientific underpinnings and POIS is not "just another psychological problem" related to sex - to be treated by the psychiatric/psychotherapeutic community. All of this information can greatly help you to fight the immediate reaction of some doctors: so just tell them, "IT'S NOT 'ALL IN YOUR HEAD'! "





It can be very  helpful to you when dealing with medical professionals to point this out. Click to see

POIS' official listing, as recognized by the
National Institutes for Health (NIH), Office of Rare Diseases Research:

And in Europe: Orphanet now lists POIS on their website. - Click here.

POIS also appears in credible medical sources such as the Journal of Sexual Medicine (Dr. Waldinger's study), British Medical Journal (Dr. Selwyn Dexter's study), and wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postorgasmic_illness_syndrome

For over 5 years, our POIS forum has attracted over 200 POIS sufferers worldwide who have posted here, research on an additional 200 sufferers elsewhere on the internet, plus our pages have been read nearly 2,000,000 times. Not bad for a rare malady.

Show some of this to your doctor - with pride. Chances are, you know far more about POIS than s/he does. Don't be intimidated by fancy diplomas. It's almost impossible for any one doctor to know much about POIS before you walk into his/her office. Unfortunately, it's up to you to educate them. And if you happen to find yourself with a disagreeable "student"-doctor (you're the teacher), find another doctor. Quickly!

SEARCH THE FORUM WITH GOOGLE

We have an overwhelming amount of data: more than 5 years' worth of posts (over  10,000 posts!) from 200+ Forum members, and an additional 200 POIS sufferers found elsewhere on the Internet by Member B_Jim.

In the Google search box, type
whatever-it-is-you're-interested-in-finding-out[space]POIS[space]site:http://thenakedscientists.com/

for example, I tried
nocturnal emission POIS site:http://thenakedscientists.com/

and 740 results came up for "nocturnal emission" within the Forum.

be careful with spaces (you can use them before the word "site") and no-spaces (everything after the word "site")

Google even provides you results with the Message# for each result. But Message #'s do change, so be patient and look for the approximate Message#.

[demografx]

I am going to participate very soon in a POIS article that is going to appear in the Spain´s newspaper "El Mundo"- and its web-page: http://www.elmundo.es/ (3 million visitors each day, 1 million readers).

[ejactrouble]

Thank you for your quick reply demografx.

[demografx]

Thank you for your quick reply demografx.

My pleasure.

[B_Daniel]

Raynman, thank you so much for the donation!! That's amazing of you and welcome to the group/ team. I'm interested to hear about what's helped you over the years, if you wouldnt mind sharing. Also, out of curiousity, have you had pois since puberty, or did u develop it later on?

[ejactrouble]

Anyone else here get blurry vision after ejaculation?  Vision is the least of my problems, but I can't even look at the computer because my vision is so blurry I can barely focus on anything (very annoying).  Trying to see if my blurriness is due to POIS or something else.

Thanks.

[ejactrouble]

Is it possible that POIS has something to do with blood pressure?

I'm asking because last week I had been a week without ejaculation (mentally clear) and went into a weight lifting session (mentally clear).  After doing some heavy deadlifts I immediately felt the typical symptoms I feel after ejaculation (extreme brain fog, blurry vision, physical and mental fatigue, etc.).  I was straining pretty hard on that set and could feel my mind 'snap' and alter itself so I felt completely different than just a moment before.

I don't know what else could have caused this in relation to the weights I was lifting.  What else is in play besides blood pressure?  Oxygen maybe?  Just trying to put 2 and 2 together on how I felt the same way after I did that set and how I normally feel after masturbation + ejaculation.  And if it was blood pressure related, why is blood pressure so high (low?) after ejaculation?  Does the body really put that much stress on itself to get rid of semen (or replace lost semen with bodily fluids)?

[demografx]

Interesting. I've battled high blood pressure all my life.

[Vasian1980]

ejactrouble
Same thing with me! After heavy physical exertion comes confusion and a strong emotional tension is stronger than after sex.

[kurtosis]

ejactrouble
Same thing with me! After heavy physical exertion comes confusion and a strong emotional tension is stronger than after sex.

Depends what muscles I'm using. I'll sometimes get POIS like symptoms if I'm concentrating on leg muscles. I rarely get symptoms if I'm working my arms, unless I really over exert myself.

[ejactrouble]

ejactrouble
Same thing with me! After heavy physical exertion comes confusion and a strong emotional tension is stronger than after sex.

Depends what muscles I'm using. I'll sometimes get POIS like symptoms if I'm concentrating on leg muscles. I rarely get symptoms if I'm working my arms, unless I really over exert myself.

Funny you mention that, since I had just completed upper body with no problems (actually I was feeling great!), and the fuse blew in my brain right after my first set of Deadlifts.  So if it worsens with lower body I wonder what the relation is. 

[ejactrouble]

ejactrouble
Same thing with me! After heavy physical exertion comes confusion and a strong emotional tension is stronger than after sex.

What sucks is that I can't tell if I'm over-exerting myself until it's too late.  I never know where that line is.  They say no pain no gain, and to work your ass off in the gym, but it's a curse for us.

For what it's worth, I've always been very athletic prior to POIS and have very rarely had these symptoms.  It's only been the past couple of years that this whole POIS and brain fog thing has been going on.

I'm 24 by the way, and have been dealing with this for about 3 years now, which is just as long as I've been dealing with the whole psychiatric thing.  I don't know how old everyone is but does this affect men of all ages or just older men?

[Vasian1980]

I'm 25. 10 years bodybuilding, it is there, and came first POI, 2 years ago, in my confusion comes even  sex and hot water to wash my hair 100% immediately apparent effects, and if you cool water  POI does not occur. And I have constant anxiety and sweaty hands was not dependent  abstinence days.