[Prancer]

As a matter of fact because of  people like you Prancer, I am thinking of quiting this forum  today, since I am  kind of sick  of some two faced people  constanly  going over my posts trying to find something  they can drool  on  and compare notes with FDA.  I have been here  spending my time for your sake since you have been on this forum.  And I consider you  very ungrateful, and me  quiting this forum  is partially your fault.  Since I understand the motives of SLAVRS .  But you  were sitting here , listening,  taking notes,  drooling over the results of the others.  How pathetic is  that? 
During some  time of trouble or  war or something, I  would  not  wish  that people like  you  be around me ,  they  make perfect traitors.

I don't know who you are, or who Marc (slavrs) is. But I do know one thing. Given the choice, I'd choose that guy Marc's information over yours any day.


- You are VERY emotional and defensive on everything (which is behavior that is highly unusual for any "expert" or "professional").

- You recommend VERY dangerous things.

- You are VERY unprofessional and insult almost everyone that disagrees with you.


Needless to say, you wouldn't exactly be my first choice when we're dealing with something as fragile as the human body and as bad as POIS.

I'm done talking to you. You can complain all you want, but your posts from now on will be mostly ignored by me as just being another source of spam.

[Gbolduev]

1)I am not supposed to be professional,  I am not here to please you and I am sick of spending my time on  ungrateful  jerks like you. You see if I had  any kind of agenda , I would try to  suck up to people. I care less.I  just provide what I know. I am ready to argue any points of my claims, but now I dont have to do it anymore,  since FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES
2)  FACTS speak for themselves,  people are getting cured on my regimen
3) You are totally  clueless and your opinion  on medical issues does not concern me.You  dont have the ability to argue medical points with me, since you are just not skilled enough.And it is not about  you disagreeing with me, it was about you starting it with me based on nothing.  And when  the arguement got factual, you backed off with  your emotional  cry.
4) your choice of the side is  pure emotional.( I guess that would explain your copper toxicity)
5) You attacked me and I  was defending myself
6) you claim that you want post to be based on fact,and yet when people  come out and claim the facts about them being cured, you  still deny it.
7) YOU have no chance to be cured by me, and  you can ommit all the information  I posted.
YOU ARE THE REASON I AM QUITTING THIS FORUM, let  others  thank you.

[RD]

... I accuse  of fraud based  on the scientific research that everyone can observe on the their site.   I dont  base it on nationality  or  geographical  location.

Plagiarism (copying) is fraud ...

....Is this guy Chineese or something,  only chineese could be that fast  on copying things.

[ BTW only 2 'e's in Chinese ]

[Gbolduev]

RD,

Exactly plagarism is  fraud, and they(SLAVRS) copied  an existing  syndrome and  claimed  it as their own.
The proof of this fraud  you can find  in  work  of  H.G. Fassbender and K. Wagner (1973)  in which changes in endothelium of capillars and loci of cellular proliferation in connective tissues and MTD regions are described.
Also  Vils syndrome which is based on  their work,   vascular dystonia and  neuro dystonia,    simply   all of them  together  are called  Vegetative  Vascular Dystonia.  http://www.vtclinic.com/specific-indicants-of-tissular-circulation-disorder.html
Medicine is like law,   and  information  has to be researched first    before you  claim a discovery and  not just copy what other people did 50 years ago without  understanding the  facts and the content of current syndromes. That is why  scienfically the imposters have absolutely  nothing. And agenda wise   they are very very OBVIOUS.
Dont tell a russian about VVD we know  everything about it , since most people have it to a degree.
I had dystonia  for more than 15 years and I surely researched it a lot more than they did in 6 months.




I  used work  of  many scientists and I claim  their efforts and their work  to be helpful in my research. I dont  claim any of it to be  under my Name, since I have no  monetary or  good will  agenda.
And I have no idea what plagarism are you talking about  in my case?    I cant use the work of others to help people, stating that  I use their  work and I add  to it?    You must be kidding me, right. I constantly state that my work and  my experiences are based on  the 40 years of experience of Dr Eck and  some work of Pfieffer, and some work and experience of Dr Wilson.

Slavrs got confused  about this, since he has  obvious agenda and  I dont, since I have no investor nor I am planning on  puting anything under my name, even if everyone   gets cured here using  nutritional balancing .
That is why I suggest for people to go on nutritional balancing program and it has nothing to do with ME at all.
For those   who are interested I  sometimes help with my own programs and experiences,  and that is done if I wish to do it, since I dont do  this for living and  not planning to  and I take absolutely no money for my time and help.
My activities  on  this forum are based only on my desire to help in the name of my  dead wife. Since I beilive  it will help her.
And I have no idea, why people have to quote my posts, and why Slav has to post about that zinc and copper and other crap.  We are not discussing me here,  we were discussing his  site. You  can always  call  anyone who does nutritional balancing  and argue with them about it.   There is no reason to mention  my wife in  his arguements or  talk about my personal credentials , I am not  claiming  any syndrome here, and I am not  copying anyones work like they do.  I suggested the solution and it worked for more than  one person.  I did not claim  some  misterious 27 people  who were POIS sufferes and noone ever heard from them. I just took some people  directly from this forum,  and in front of everyone HELPED them.

The end result is that it WORKED  for POIS.   And you cant take it away.   I am not  proposing you  to come to me and get balanced , I  dont have time anymore and  especially   no desire any more.  You can chose from  hundreds of practitioners   all over the world to balance you ...Call ARL directly or  any other  balancing company, if  you know them. And  they will   appoint a  practitioner for you .


Chinese  are fast at copying things, that is the complement and not the accusation, and  a FACT. 
Where fraud in  russia  claim  is based on  nothing. The same  fraud takes place  in any country.

With this I will say goodbye to all of you .
As I claimed I will quit this forum earlier and stayed here for  Marc's info release . Now I  gave my opinion about it  and  you can  make your own  steps on how to approach your sickness.

[Omen 30]

try a vegan diet and b12 supplements everyday preferab ly methylcobal atleast 500 mcg and see the difference in the pois symptoms.this is the ultimate cure i feel for pois.the culprit is milk which is causing the fog.try it friends.

[urano75]

It is a bit sad for me to see how this place has become so much a theater for personal attacks, slander, sarcasm, personal business promoting, racist generalizations and grammar corrections, while it is mainly supposed to offer support and knowledge to suffering people. That's frequent in communities, still sad nonetheless.
Confusion and division is the last thing people in this condition will benefit from. Everyone will take its own responsabilities: who writes, who reads, who judges.

As for me I'm grateful for the good folks I had a positive exchanges with here, and that actively helped me get out of the troublesome situation I was in just few months ago. I believe things happen when it's the right time in our lives: changes, the information and people we meet. In fact I can only judge based on my personal, direct experience, and not based on some emotional, personal projection. This forum has been instrumental for me to get in touch with the right people, do important changes and get rid of old stuff keeping me from moving ahead. I've already mentioned some of these things in my previous posts.

I will probably spend very little time reading here, now that I have more energy and lot of things to do out there.
I felt that these few words were necessary, please just disregard them if you don't think the same.
Thanks again, and good luck.
Andrea

[ajs]

I'm going to throw another weird symptom that I have that out and wondered by any chance someone has had it....I have a very limited time on the computer because the light from the screen either causes me to throw up or causes pain throughout my body or gives me a really bad headache....anyone??

[Kima]

Mne better at 80%, Herman thank you

[johanstefansson]

It is a bit sad for me to see how this place has become so much a theater for personal attacks, slander, sarcasm, personal business promoting, racist generalizations and grammar corrections, while it is mainly supposed to offer support and knowledge to suffering people. That's frequent in communities, still sad nonetheless.
Confusion and division is the last thing people in this condition will benefit from. Everyone will take its own responsabilities: who writes, who reads, who judges.

As for me I'm grateful for the good folks I had a positive exchanges with here, and that actively helped me get out of the troublesome situation I was in just few months ago. I believe things happen when it's the right time in our lives: changes, the information and people we meet. In fact I can only judge based on my personal, direct experience, and not based on some emotional, personal projection. This forum has been instrumental for me to get in touch with the right people, do important changes and get rid of old stuff keeping me from moving ahead. I've already mentioned some of these things in my previous posts.

I will probably spend very little time reading here, now that I have more energy and lot of things to do out there.
I felt that these few words were necessary, please just disregard them if you don't think the same.
Thanks again, and good luck.
Andrea

Also sad to see how you dont do what you should do, that is asking for a ban of those posters. Dont chicken out and let these idiots ruin this forum that is vital for us. Make sure to remind everyone about the rules here and ban people like Gbolduev who posts and spams like a true jerk.

[johanstefansson]

I'm going to throw another weird symptom that I have that out and wondered by any chance someone has had it....I have a very limited time on the computer because the light from the screen either causes me to throw up or causes pain throughout my body or gives me a really bad headache....anyone??

could be that the screen reminds your subconsious mind about the porn you have witnessed on it.. true?

[urano75]

Also sad to see how you dont do what you should do, that is asking for a ban of those posters. Dont chicken out and let these idiots ruin this forum that is vital for us. Make sure to remind everyone about the rules here and ban people like Gbolduev who posts and spams like a true jerk.

Just to refresh your memory and attention: Herman (Gboulduev) is the man I've been working with and has been key to my progress in these months. He's the last one I would wish to be banned here indeed.
So my thanks goes mainly to him, and then to other few guys I've met here, which have given me support and information since the beginning (like Daniel).
No point for me to read and post further here.
Enjoy your discussions and rules, and good luck.

[gondal4]

come on you people fight fight fight,this is a fighting forum ,call each other to fight.RIDICULOUS

[B_Daniel]

I had some blood tests done a few days ago.  The results are still coming in one by one, but there are already a few things of note: My ceruloplasmin went up from 23 to 30 between my test in January and my test yesterday.  So that's a positive sign.
 
My serum copper levels are 130 ug/dL on a (40-140) scale.  So I'm still copper toxic in the blood, which indicates the the minerals I'm taking are removing copper from my tissues into my blood and I'm having a tough time clearing the copper out of the blood.  Herman has recommended add more coffee enemas and vitamin c to my protocol.
 
My progesterone level is 0.2 ng/mL on a scale of (.02 to .2).  In my hair test, my Potassium is also on the upper bound of normal, so the high progesterone seems to match that. 

In terms of my symptoms, my recovery after orgasms, which was zero as of even 2 months ago, continues to improve.  Additionally my overall health is improved too.  I went out for dinner last night, to a 3 hour dinner at a table full of people where i didn't know a single person.  And I had a pretty good time.  Two months ago I could not have done that.  No way, no how.

[B_Daniel]

It is a bit sad for me to see how this place has become so much a theater for personal attacks, slander, sarcasm, personal business promoting, racist generalizations and grammar corrections, while it is mainly supposed to offer support and knowledge to suffering people. That's frequent in communities, still sad nonetheless.
Confusion and division is the last thing people in this condition will benefit from. Everyone will take its own responsabilities: who writes, who reads, who judges.

As for me I'm grateful for the good folks I had a positive exchanges with here, and that actively helped me get out of the troublesome situation I was in just few months ago. I believe things happen when it's the right time in our lives: changes, the information and people we meet. In fact I can only judge based on my personal, direct experience, and not based on some emotional, personal projection. This forum has been instrumental for me to get in touch with the right people, do important changes and get rid of old stuff keeping me from moving ahead. I've already mentioned some of these things in my previous posts.

I will probably spend very little time reading here, now that I have more energy and lot of things to do out there.
I felt that these few words were necessary, please just disregard them if you don't think the same.
Thanks again, and good luck.
Andrea

You're cured and the posts you leave behind detail for all your POIS journey and the road you took to get better.  Your work here is done so I understand why you're leaving, but never-the-less your contributions will be missed.  Please come back from time to time and let us know how you're doing.  Congratulations on your new found health and all the best!

[abdullah]

I had some blood tests done a few days ago.  The results are still coming in one by one, but there are already a few things of note: My ceruloplasmin went up from 23 to 30 between my test in January and my test yesterday.  So that's a positive sign.
 
My serum copper levels are 130 ug/dL on a (40-140) scale.  So I'm still copper toxic in the blood, which indicates the the minerals I'm taking are removing copper from my tissues into my blood and I'm having a tough time clearing the copper out of the blood.  Herman has recommended add more coffee enemas and vitamin c to my protocol.
 
My progesterone level is 0.2 ng/mL on a scale of (.02 to .2).  In my hair test, my Potassium is also on the upper bound of normal, so the high progesterone seems to match that. 

In terms of my symptoms, my recovery after orgasms, which was zero as of even 2 months ago, continues to improve.  Additionally my overall health is improved too.  I went out for dinner last night, to a 3 hour dinner at a table full of people where i didn't know a single person.  And I had a pretty good time.  Two months ago I could not have done that.  No way, no how.

hi im been following this forum for quite a while and it saddens me what's been happening lately
we should work together not fighting. "or fight but nicely hehe"

anyway i wanna share whats im taking now for copper toxcity:
zinc
molybdenum
vitamin c
manganese
calcium - magnesium
selenium
b5
probiotics with colostrum
i also drink burdock root tea twice daily


i've been taken this supplement since 2 month and i've seen gradual improvement in my health and how long pois lasts also i've been suffering from fungal infections for years which stopped

and im wondering whats Herman though on molybdenum since it chelates and help remove copper? or is vitamin c enough?
thanks

[Prancer]

Dont chicken out and let these idiots ruin this forum that is vital for us. Make sure to remind everyone about the rules here and ban people like Gbolduev who posts and spams like a true jerk.

You're right johanstefansson. It's very strange how a once-useful forum has turned into something so cheap. I was never once (never will either) during my time here planning take the medical recommendations of some angry, illiterate, faux expert russian guy who I've never met and who tells people to take things that could kill them. The earth is round, not flat. I wouldn't buy things on infomercials either just because the host says they can perform miracles. My girlfriend pressured me to stop reading a long time ago, but I waited until now. My mistake. Thanks so much to everyone who has basic common sense and lives in reality, and who has helped over the past year. Like so many other great members here, this will be my final post.

[Kima]

"was never once (never will either) during my time here planning take the medical recommendations of some angry, illiterate, faux expert russian guy who I've never met and who tells people to take things that could kill them."  by  Prancer                                                                                      It seems  that  this  completely contradicts what people  experience  on Herman's programs.  You seem  to be  very biased and emotional in your assesments . It seems not right to  project your attitude   as a factual statement.  People clearly  stated their progress and you staying on the sidelines  does not give you a right to  judge this person  without as you mentioned ever meeting him or talking to him. I feel sorry for you and good luck.It is such a pity that Herman  has decided to quit this forum because of people like you

[CertainlyPOIS]

Also sad to see how you dont do what you should do, that is asking for a ban of those posters. Dont chicken out and let these idiots ruin this forum that is vital for us. Make sure to remind everyone about the rules here and ban people like Gbolduev who posts and spams like a true jerk.

Just to refresh your memory and attention: Herman (Gboulduev) is the man I've been working with and has been key to my progress in these months. He's the last one I would wish to be banned here indeed.
So my thanks goes mainly to him, and then to other few guys I've met here, which have given me support and information since the beginning (like Daniel).
No point for me to read and post further here.
Enjoy your discussions and rules, and good luck.

Urano because helped you does not mean he can atagonize others the way he does. It is not fair to give him leeway because of that. His method might have worked for you but that does not mean it will work for everyone. Like victor said there are some on russian forum whose ceruloplasmin is fine. What will happen if herman's systems does not work for you in the longrun run and there is no other option because gbolduev will not let other ideas flourish.
This forum has always discussed multiple ideas one person should not negatively affect that because he is helping some.

[CertainlyPOIS]

Dont chicken out and let these idiots ruin this forum that is vital for us. Make sure to remind everyone about the rules here and ban people like Gbolduev who posts and spams like a true jerk.

You're right johanstefansson. It's very strange how a once-useful forum has turned into something so cheap. I was never once (never will either) during my time here planning take the medical recommendations of some angry, illiterate, faux expert russian guy who I've never met and who tells people to take things that could kill them. The earth is round, not flat. I wouldn't buy things on infomercials either just because the host says they can perform miracles. My girlfriend pressured me to stop reading a long time ago, but I waited until now. My mistake. Thanks so much to everyone who has basic common sense and lives in reality, and who has helped over the past year. Like so many other great members here, this will be my final post.

Am glad others are finally seeing herman for what he is.
The solution to all this is simple, herman has to leave he has caused all this disruptions and divided and it is not like he has not been told several times to change. He has been told by those who support him and people who were always cautious of him to change.
We can still discuss ceruloplasmin, hopefully through those that have worked with herman.
We should not let one person who has barely being here a year to cause something that has been going on for six years to implode.
Dont stop posting your ideas especially when we are making great strides.

[bombero]

Herman has stated that he has left the forum yesterday. I guess you guys missed it.